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03-26-2010, 07:09 AM
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i heard it was because they like the game "ring toss"
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03-26-2010, 07:59 AM
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geez...I quoted the Huffington post for Chris's Sakes...wassamadda..they're too right wing for you????
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No, the article doesn't really say anything....Got a senator that wants to introduce a bill against it.....but doesn't state in the article where, in the HC bill, it allows it.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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03-26-2010, 08:36 AM
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Congrats Spence
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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03-26-2010, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
This is one of those comments that only a sex starved geek could conjure up. My wife happens to be with a child and it didn't happen via immaculate conception
-spence
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Yes Spence, that must be it. I can't get any action. As for your wife being with child, I'm assuming you mean she's pregnant and not just hanging around with you. If she is pregnant, congratulate her and the father for me.
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03-26-2010, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
No, the article doesn't really say anything....Got a senator that wants to introduce a bill against it.....but doesn't state in the article where, in the HC bill, it allows it.
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wow...ever more reasons why/how Obama got elected.....
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03-26-2010, 01:09 PM
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A happy prisoner is a docile prisoner.
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AND IF YOU HAVE AN ERECTION LASTING LONGER THAN FOUR HOURS PLEASE VISIT THE EXERCISE YARD IMMEDIATLEY..................
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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03-26-2010, 01:53 PM
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Congrats Spence
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Thanks
-spence
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03-26-2010, 03:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
This is one of those comments that only a sex starved geek could conjure up. My wife happens to be with a child and it didn't happen via immaculate conception
-spence
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Congrats. I am not totally without a soul Spence.
But, I just don't get that gay einstien avatar, must be an engineer thing.
Did the BIG Deal go through?
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03-26-2010, 04:12 PM
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Is this what it means to serve "hard time". Hmmmm
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03-26-2010, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TommyTuna
Congrats. I am not totally without a soul Spence.
But, I just don't get that gay einstien avatar, must be an engineer thing.
Did the BIG Deal go through?
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Working on it...this isn't the close, hell, it's just to get the budget slotted for 2011!
Selling enterprise software isn't exactly a fast process.
-spence
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03-26-2010, 05:46 PM
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wow...ever more reasons why/how Obama got elected.....
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Then Enlighten Me Oh Wise One.....
How about you post the passage in the health Care bill that gives the Sex Offenders Viagra......instead of being a #^^^^&
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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03-26-2010, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Working on it...this isn't the close, hell, it's just to get the budget slotted for 2011!
Selling enterprise software isn't exactly a fast process.
-spence
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I need some Business Management software for my rental company. Wanna help me out?
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03-26-2010, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
I need some Business Management software for my rental company. Wanna help me out?
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Unfortunately, we don't roll that way
-spence
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03-26-2010, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Then Enlighten Me Oh Wise One.....
How about you post the passage in the health Care bill that gives the Sex Offenders Viagra......instead of being a #^^^^&
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He's the master of the non sequitur...
-spence
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03-26-2010, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Then Enlighten Me Oh Wise One.....
How about you post the passage in the health Care bill that gives the Sex Offenders Viagra......instead of being a #^^^^&
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how about pulling your head out of your ass and checking the congressional record from yesterday to see what all of the fuss was about... instead of whining like a welfare recipient to give you what you want when you could just as easily get on you own? maybe you should expand your information source for politics beyond a fishing website
ABC News' Z. Byron Wolf reports:
Here's where we are with the health reform bill. One of the beautiful things for Democrats about the budget reconciliation process they are using to tweak their health reform law is that the bill is not filibusterable.
The beautiful thing for Republicans is that any old amendment can be offered and get a vote.
Sen. Tom Coburn has released his list of amendments to the reconciliation bill. Democrats will try to defeat all the amendments, if possible, to avoid another vote in the House.
But Republicans will make that goal as tough as possible.
So the first amendment Coburn is offering is pretty tough, politically, to disagree with.
It would ban the government from covering erectile dysfunction medication for sex offenders who get their insurance on the exchanges.
While banning the coverage of those drugs would save money, it would also create new policy. And under budget rules, would probably need 60 votes instead of the 51 usually required during budget reconciliation.
Either way, Democrats will probably have to plug their noses and vote against the amendment. Then they’ll be on record with the vote.
You can imagine the campaign commercial… cue scary music… “Politician X wants to give Viagra to sex offenders…”
The full list of Coburn’s amendments (he’s only one Senator, expect many many more) is below, as released by his office:
No Erectile Dysfunction Drugs To Sex Offenders – This amendment would enact recommendations from the Government Accountability Office to stop fraudulent payments for prescription drugs prescribed by dead providers or, to dead patients. This amendment also prohibits coverage of Viagra and other ED medications to convicted child molesters, rapists, and sex offenders, and prohibits coverage of abortion drugs. (Note: the creation of exchanges could allow sex offenders to receive taxpayer-funded Viagra and other ED drugs unless Congress expressly prohibits this action – see additional background attached)
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03-26-2010, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Selling enterprise software isn't exactly a fast process.
-spence
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selling rubber models of the Starship Enterprise must be a tough gig outside of the Trekkie conventions...
seriously, God bless you and Mrs. Spencer...hope it's nothing but smooth sailing till the blessed event and after that as well, I miss the days of diapers and wipes and spit up...
I do have some baby name suggestions:
Che' Spencer
Obama Bin Spencer
Barack "Barry" Hussein Spencer
this one will certainly be back in vogue in time for your birth, I hear it's making a big comeback in Russia.... Stalin Spencer, that would be chic..like Dakota or something like that...
Spence Alynski Junior
and for a girl
Elinor Rodam Spencer
Evita Spencer
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03-26-2010, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
how about pulling your head out of your ass and checking the congressional record from yesterday to see what all of the fuss was about... instead of whining like a welfare recipient to give you what you want when you could just as easily get on you own? maybe you should expand your information source for politics beyond a fishing website
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Wow, what a dodge...
I can't believe you couldn't even scrape up a single link.
-spence
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03-26-2010, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Wow, what a dodge...
I can't believe you couldn't even scrape up a single link.
-spence
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you speak too soon...if he was half paying attention to the news, I wouldn't have to waste my time...oh crap...I'm starting to sound like you...
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03-26-2010, 08:25 PM
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you speak too soon...if he was half paying attention to the news, I wouldn't have to waste my time...oh crap...I'm starting to sound like you...
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I think you missed the point of TDF's post...
-spence
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03-26-2010, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I think you missed the point of TDF's post...
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no, actually...he missed the point of the thread ..."I just heard that sex offenders will be eligible for Viagra under Obama Health Care?"
and then he called me a bad word....which according to the dems. these days constitutes threats of violence...but I forgive him...
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03-26-2010, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
I do have some baby name suggestions:
Che' Spencer
Obama Bin Spencer
Barack "Barry" Hussein Spencer
this one will certainly be back in vogue in time for your birth, I hear it's making a big comeback in Russia....Stalin Spencer, that would be chic..like Dakota or something like that...
Spence Alynski Junior
and for a girl
Elinor Rodam Spencer
Evita Spencer
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From what I understand, if it's a girl, my wife already has a name that I'm not allowed to know and I have no say.
In return, if it's a boy, I get the pick the name.
Which basically means she'll veto whatever I say.
-spence
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03-26-2010, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Selling enterprise software isn't exactly a fast process.
-spence
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Your telling me, my wife sells & implements ORACLE so I know the territory & the revenue horizon.
Boy Name: Saul Alinsky Spencer
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03-26-2010, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
From what I understand, if it's a girl, my wife already has a name that I'm not allowed to know and I have no say.
In return, if it's a boy, I get the pick the name.
Which basically means she'll veto whatever I say.
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When is the little bundle of joy due? Are you going to find out the gender or will you be suprised?
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03-26-2010, 09:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
From what I understand, if it's a girl, my wife already has a name that I'm not allowed to know and I have no say.
In return, if it's a boy, I get the pick the name.
Which basically means she'll veto whatever I say.
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been there...that's funny
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03-26-2010, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
(Note: the creation of exchanges could allow sex offenders to receive taxpayer-funded Viagra and other ED drugs unless Congress expressly prohibits this action – see additional background attached)
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This little tidbit isn't even listed in the huffington post article you referenced.....
this is what I see in that article.....
The idea is that by securing even a slight adjustment in the language, the Senate will have to send the bill back to the House of Representatives for reconsideration. Drawing out the process makes it more likely for it to be tripped up.
Which tells me that he is entering this amendment just to bog down the legislative process....not because it has any basis in fact...and if it does i asked to see it.
and as far as me being a welfare recipient, you can kiss my ass on that one.....
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03-27-2010, 06:38 AM
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ohhh....wassamadda Kevin....Hopey Change isn't all you'd hoped and dreamed??? I'll go R-E-A-L-L-Y ....S-L-O-W for you because I'm feeling generous and it almost Holy week so I should try to help those in need....."the question" was whether sex offenders would be eligible for Viagara and other such drugs under the new healthcare reform law"....are you following me??? the answer is, as constituted ....yes....and I provided proof to you that there are concerns over this on both sides by citing the Huffington Post and AbC News so that you could not accuse me of using right wing propoganda sources....Coburn ( a doctor I believe) proposed an ammendment to prohibit the above....it was a valid ammendment to address a valid issue, the dems decided to vote it down...you can invent whatever reasons to satisfy you own leanings but that's what happened... you could very well have figured this out on your own if you'd read slowly, I'd hope...well, maybe not....
funny ... after all of the Political Whoring and utter Perversion of our Legislative process that occured to get this healthcare disaster passsed through...this is what upsets you???? yikes....
a fool and his Liberty...are soon parted...
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03-27-2010, 07:20 AM
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Never Mind...I'm arguing with a %$%$%$%$ing Moron
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03-27-2010, 08:16 AM
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Never Mind...I'm arguing with a %$%$%$%$ing Moron
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see...you sound like an ungrateful welfare recipient
you demand that I provide you free education, you don't pay attention...and then you complain about the quality of that free education and insult the system, what more can I do for you?
it was a perfectly legitimate and sensible ammendment, and incidentally, that's what the process is for....perhaps if the dems were not shoving huge legislation through and saying things like "we need to pass it so that you can find out what's in it" Nazi Pelosi...it would all make much more sense to you
I forgive you for the moron insult...
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03-27-2010, 08:34 AM
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The amendment is sensible only if your intent is to impede the entire legislation. Leave it to a conservative to propose additional useless legislation while at the very same time demonizing the expansion of government!
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03-27-2010, 08:55 AM
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The amendment is sensible only if your intent is to impede the entire legislation. Leave it to a conservative to propose additional useless legislation while at the very same time demonizing the expansion of government!
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Is the baby on the way thing affecting your judgement even more than usual, Spence? There are ammendments like this put in every big bill by both parties. The Dems have filled this 2700 page bill with more pork that a redneck 4th of July pig roast, yet you find fault with one conservative ammendment which most people here seem to be in agreement with? To quote a wise man, your post is "Lame".
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