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Old 03-25-2010, 12:48 PM   #1
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Sex criminals to get Viagra?

I just heard that sex offenders will be eligible for Viagra under Obama Health Care? Someone wake me up from this Obamanation and tell me that this is just a nightmare!!

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Old 03-25-2010, 01:07 PM   #2
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why would anyone be surprised?...
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Old 03-25-2010, 01:11 PM   #3
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Why don't you post a link w/ some info instead of just hearsay.....

Then people will have something of substance to debate

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Old 03-25-2010, 01:27 PM   #4
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Dems To Oppose The Most Alluring Of GOP Reconciliation Amendments

and they reaffirmed their support for Viagara for sex offenders just a short time ago...nice political party...real nice
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Old 03-25-2010, 01:38 PM   #5
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How about the section of the bill that states Viagra for sex offenders....instead of someone talking about making a bill against it to hold things up.....for manipulation purposes.

and for the record....I am not in favor of the bill...I think its a mistake.

It just drives me nuts when somebody throws something out there with no facts to back it up....and people go "Ahuh, A yup.....their gonna do that alright, I done heard it from somewhere"

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Old 03-25-2010, 01:38 PM   #6
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Why would Viagra be offered to ANYONE for insurance purposes? Sex is an option. You can live without it (ask Spence). Im serious. this is the type of stuff that should immediatly be dropped to save money.
For example, a few years back, I had a pretty big skin tag grow on my neck, every time I shaved it bled. People asked me all the time what that was on my neck. When I went to the doc, they said it is cosmetic, insurance wont cover it. I paid the $140 to get it removed. Anything that is OPTIONAL should not be covered.

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Old 03-25-2010, 01:45 PM   #7
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Why would Viagra be offered to ANYONE for insurance purposes? Sex is an option. You can live without it (ask Spence). Im serious. this is the type of stuff that should immediatly be dropped to save money.
I agree.....And thats the angle they should play to try and send it back....Not the "NAMBLA Boosters are going to be walking around with a Government Issued Boner" angle

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Old 03-25-2010, 01:55 PM   #8
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i agree
best analogy I heard on the helathcare bill is from congressamn lynch -
“Envision it as a great, big bus. The bus has a couple of flat tires and is burning fuel—it’s very inefficient—and what we’ve just done is put 32 million people on the bus,” Lynch said.

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Old 03-25-2010, 01:56 PM   #9
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Why would Viagra be offered to ANYONE for insurance purposes?
I agree and wish you stopped your post here. I didn't want to read about the skin tag.
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How about the section of the bill that states Viagra for sex offenders....instead of someone talking about making a bill against it to hold things up.....for manipulation purposes.

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geez...I quoted the Huffington post for Chris's Sakes...wassamadda..they're too right wing for you????
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Old 03-25-2010, 02:36 PM   #11
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I agree and wish you stopped your post here. I didn't want to read about the skin tag.
be glad I didnt post about my bunion! I had to get orthoscotic implants into my shoes to stop it from getting worse and guess what? Insurance doesnt cover it!

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Old 03-25-2010, 03:11 PM   #12
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I agree and wish you stopped your post here. I didn't want to read about the skin tag.
it was his nose. it wasn't really pleasant looking.
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Old 03-25-2010, 03:12 PM   #13
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Why would Viagra be offered to ANYONE for insurance purposes? Sex is an option. You can live without it (ask Spence). Im serious. this is the type of stuff that should immediatly be dropped to save money.
For example, a few years back, I had a pretty big skin tag grow on my neck, every time I shaved it bled. People asked me all the time what that was on my neck. When I went to the doc, they said it is cosmetic, insurance wont cover it. I paid the $140 to get it removed. Anything that is OPTIONAL should not be covered.
Most insurance companies will cover viagra but they won't cover birth control goes to show you that their decision process is screwed up it always either cosmetic or experimental until they figure out how to suck more money out of you.

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Old 03-25-2010, 03:21 PM   #14
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A happy prisoner is a docile prisoner.
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So is a dead one!
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Old 03-25-2010, 04:55 PM   #16
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Putting aside my opinion that pedophiles and rapists should be castrated, I have to agree with Jimmy's position. Viagra is non-essential. Why are any non-essential medications covered under a subsidized plan?

If a doctor can ever say "if you want to, you can, but you don't have to", then it is not essential and we shouldn't have to pay for it.
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Old 03-25-2010, 05:11 PM   #17
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Putting aside my opinion that pedophiles and rapists should be castrated, I have to agree with Jimmy's position. Viagra is non-essential. Why are any non-essential medications covered under a subsidized plan?

If a doctor can ever say "if you want to, you can, but you don't have to", then it is not essential and we shouldn't have to pay for it.
You could certainly argue that reproduction is a natural human function, and that some conditions would make a drug medically necessary for the person to operate as if under nominal parameters.

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Old 03-25-2010, 05:25 PM   #18
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You could certainly argue that reproduction is a natural human function, and that some conditions would make a drug medically necessary for the person to operate as if under nominal parameters.

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In the case of reproduction, then it *might* be needed. That's why there is an appeal process with insurance companies. However, ED incidences grow with age.

Recreational use of Viagra is growing quite significantly according to the below article.

"New research indicates that the use of Viagra skyrocketed 312% among men aged 18-45 between 1998 and 2002. There's also been a twofold increase -- 216% -- among men between ages 45 and 55, says Tom Delate, PhD, whose research analyzed data on medical insurance claims by some 5 million patients across the country.

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Does this suggest a growing trend in using the drug for recreational rather than medical purposes -- such as for a sex enhancer?

"That would be my guess,"
Delate tells WebMD.

"What we found was that problems typically seem to start in a man's 40s and affected only about 40% of the men in these age groups."
Young Men Lead Surge in Viagra Use

The majority of people using Viagra aren't using it as a reproductive necessity, but for pleasure enhancement. I should not have to pay for more people to get laid - the wages that politicians use to pay for prostitutes should be enough.
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Old 03-25-2010, 05:32 PM   #19
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You could certainly argue that reproduction is a natural human function, and that some conditions would make a drug medically necessary for the person to operate as if under nominal parameters.

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Does that mean that you could make a case for having a prescription for roofies coverd under your insurance plan?
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Old 03-25-2010, 05:48 PM   #20
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Does that mean that you could make a case for having a prescription for roofies coverd under your insurance plan?
Absolutely. My doctor already prescribes downers to slow my brain enough to facilitate communication with the average folks.

At times I do fall of the wagon, but rarely do I post. Most of that time is spent building the noctron particle emotronicle.

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Old 03-25-2010, 06:21 PM   #21
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Absolutely. My doctor already prescribes downers to slow my brain enough to facilitate communication with the average folks.

At times I do fall of the wagon, but rarely do I post. Most of that time is spent building the noctron particle emotronicle.

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ok stop takin
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Absolutely. My doctor already prescribes downers to slow my brain enough to facilitate communication with the average folks.

At times I do fall of the wagon, but rarely do I post. Most of that time is spent building the noctron particle emotronicle.

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You should get a new doctor. You've obviously been prescribed much too high of a dosage and you are taking them way too frequently.

And if you want a woman to be interested in you, give her 3x's the amount of whatever you're taking. I think you might have a chance if they're unconscious.
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You should get a new doctor. You've obviously been prescribed much too high of a dosage and you are taking them way too frequently.

And if you want a woman to be interested in you, give her 3x's the amount of whatever you're taking. I think you might have a chance if they're unconscious.
no that's to hopeful
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The majority of people using Viagra aren't using it as a reproductive necessity, but for pleasure enhancement. I should not have to pay for more people to get laid - the wages that politicians use to pay for prostitutes should be enough.
Glen Beck would be proud. This is a true fusion of entertainment with enlightenment.
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Old 03-25-2010, 07:00 PM   #25
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An active sex life is essential for good mental health. A lot has been explained here....Maybe y'all should take a coupla roofies and go play with yourselves...
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Old 03-25-2010, 07:48 PM   #26
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You could certainly argue that reproduction is a natural human function, and that some conditions would make a drug medically necessary for the person to operate as if under nominal parameters.

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I don't think they are reproducing in there. unless prisons under the new Obama Prison Reform are coed.
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Are vasectomies covered?

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An active sex life is essential for good mental health. ...
until you contract syphilis...
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until you contract syphilis...
Funny story....
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And if you want a woman to be interested in you, give her 3x's the amount of whatever you're taking. I think you might have a chance if they're unconscious.
This is one of those comments that only a sex starved geek could conjure up. My wife happens to be with a child and it didn't happen via immaculate conception

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