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Old 03-10-2010, 08:02 PM   #1
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Just went through the "Interim report of the interagency ocean policy task force"
Task force ? Cute name, my dictionary definition is " an armed force organized for a special operation"
What a bunch of vague lawyerese dribble. How many more entitled hacks are going to load up on this gravy train. ?

Page 30, had a curious sentence, "It will allow for the reduction of cumulative impacts from human uses on marine ecosystems. "

What does that mean ?

I know it's just me throwing gas on a fire, and I know fishing is not going to be banned.
I just have a real hard time with "This Regime" telling me how to think and act.

May fortune favor the foolish....
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Old 03-10-2010, 08:08 PM   #2
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Thumbs up as it is often SAID

in AMERICA ....

Its time for a regime Change!

and LAWS can be recinded ....

I'm sure i'll be breaking them
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Old 03-10-2010, 08:23 PM   #3
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A guy posted the following on the Montauk site;

This was issued today by NOAA in response to the ESPN article and ESPN issued an apology which is below.

Statement from Eric Schwaab, NOAA's Assistant Administrator for NOAA's Fisheries Service

The Ocean Policy Task Force has not recommended a ban on recreational
fishing.

The draft reports by the Ocean Policy Task Force do not contain a zoning map and do not establish any restrictions on recreational fishing, nor make any judgments about whether one ocean activity or use is better than another. Instead, the reports set up a policy and framework for effectively managing the many sustainable uses of the ocean while upholding our responsibility to be stewards of our oceans, coasts and Great Lakes.

As a member of the task force, NOAA Administrator Jane Lubchenco, has said, and I echo her on this, that saltwater recreational fishing is vital to this nation and NOAA is committed to building a strong partnership with America’s saltwater anglers to ensure that Americans have opportunities to fish sustainably for generations to come.

Saltwater recreational fishing matters to me on a personal level as a recreational fisherman, it matters to millions of Americans who enjoy this great sport and it matters to our economy. Our most recent economic report shows it supports a half million jobs and generates $82 billion in sales each year.

NOAA is committed to adopting policies that will ensure that current and future generations have the opportunity to enjoy the great tradition of recreational fishing.





On another note, ESPN Outdoors issued an apology about Robert Montgomery's article stating that it was an opinion piece.


By Steve Bowman
Executive Editor ESPNOutdoors.com
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Firestorms get started in a variety of ways, especially on politicized issues.

ESPNOutdoors.com inadvertently contributed to a flare-up Tuesday when we posted the latest article in a series of stories on President Barack Obama's newly created Ocean Policy Task Force, a column written by Robert Montgomery, a conservation writer for BASS since 1985. Regrettably, we made several errors in the editing and presentation of this installment. Though our series has included numerous news stories on the topic, this was not one of them -- it was an opinion piece, and should have been clearly labeled as commentary.

And while our series overall has examined several sides of the topic, this particular column was not properly balanced and failed to represent contrary points of view. We have reached out to people on every side of the issue and reported their points of view -- if they chose to respond -- throughout the series, but failed to do so in this specific column.

This series started in October and has included several updates on how the creation of the task force and its actions could impact recreational anglers. ESPNOutdoors.com should have made it clear to all readers that this was part of a larger series, and -- even though this was Montgomery's opinion, and those of the sources quoted in the column -- we should have taken more care to fairly represent opposing arguments.

We do feel it is our duty to cover issues surrounding outdoor sports to the best of our abilities, and given the nature of this task force and the potential impact on all fisherman, this was an appropriate topic to address for our audience. We take seriously the tenets of journalism that require we take an unbiased approach, and when we make mistakes in the presentation of a story or a column, it is our responsibility to admit them.

Any confusion on that part rests entirely on my shoulders as the executive editor of this site.

We have appended the original column to note that it was in fact a commentary, and we will institute more rigorous editing safeguards in order to prevent such issues in the future.
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Old 03-11-2010, 06:12 AM   #4
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Arrow that was NICE Wader DAD

but i will still reserve Judgment as to what is said
By the Task force and the Obamination ADMINISTRATION
in the coming days...
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Old 03-11-2010, 06:34 PM   #5
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Your right it is the Catalinas. The Galapagos you just plain aren't supposed to go near without a special permit. The waters around them are a different type of protection zone. Mixed them up while reading the report form the Autobon Society that i found.It lists a bunch of west coast Isles. Sorry for the mistake. Ron
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Old 03-12-2010, 03:02 PM   #6
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....was visiting a large retail mega store recently....in MASS

........and heard a group of guys discusing fishing-regards to huge corporations/trusts/MPAs....one quote was.."time to put away the sluggos and pick up slugs"--can someone explainhe he he
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Old 03-15-2010, 01:18 PM   #7
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As usual, we are locked in at either end and no one is looking at the middle.

Nowhere in anything I have read so far, is there any suggestion that recreational fishing will be affected. We are reading stories from guys who want to create alarm, it's America as we now know it. It's for the same reasons that Lindsey Lohan's latest lesbian escapade and John and Kate make the first headlines on the nightly news over our country's economic woes--that other stuff is boring and it might be scary. "Oh, pictures of Brangelina's 47th adopted baby--well I have to see this, right after I finish counting the rolls on my overweight American belly!" Now that's news we can count on and I don't even have to worry about it!


The problem I see is that we (Americans in general) have become so lazy that we can barely feed ourselves anymore (and why would we--people have put so much into making it easier--why not take advantage?), nevermind making up our own minds, because that's hard. We are playing right into the hands of anyone who will take 10 minutes to read the source of any kind of information, regurgitate the lines that best support their argument and then fill in around it with all kinds of alarming wordage. This is the same reason why celebrities have to make public apologies now, do you think Arnold Palmer would have been making a public apology if he pulled the same stunt Tiger did back in 1960? Hell no, but he seemed so sincere, his wife took him back--now what about Nike?

We get our information in tweets and 13 second news spots now--that's all you need now, I love technology. Newspapers and news shows are politically biased and seek to serve their party instead of reporting the unedited truth. No one even reads the newspaper anymore anyway--it's more than 37 characters.

Yes, this thing could become a problem, but do yourselves a favor and read the actual text, you can do it in the time it takes to order and devour a triple cheeseburger, don't read what every idiot with an underlying agenda has to say about it.

The really bad thing about all this though is that no one makes a stand anymore. If it takes more than sending a blanket email with their name typed at the bottom--it's more than most of us can be bothered with. I mean c'mon 24 is on tonight and then Idol until Thursday where are we going to find the time??

If anyone reads this and gets P!$$ED you either grossly missed my point or you are grossly overweight.

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Old 03-15-2010, 02:51 PM   #8
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Talking LSD found in cheese burgers

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As usual, no one is looking at the middle. and it might be scary. Now that's news we can count on and I don't even have to worry about it!


The problem I see is that we (Americans in general) have become so lazy that we can barely feed ourselves anymore .take 10 minutes to read the source of any kind of information, regurgitate


We get our information in tweets and 13 second news spots now--that's all you need now, I love to serve their party instead of reporting the unedited truth.

Yes, this thing could become a problem, but do yourselves a favor and devour a tripper cheeseburger, don't read what every idiot with an underlying rastafarian agenda has to say about it.

The really bad thing about all this though is that no one makes a safe hamburger anymore.

If anyone reads this and gets P!$$ED off you either grossly missed my point or you are grossly overweight from eating hamburgers.

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i hear ya Dave....loud and clear
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Old 03-15-2010, 02:55 PM   #9
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Thanks for reminding me that 24 was on tonight
I'll have to park my overweight lap down in front of the tube and relax a bit , I got no time to write to Kerry about health care bill. or was this about fishing I get all the threads confused, must be watching too much TV
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:04 AM   #10
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the threats are real.........

...the adgendas of AR groups, other trust sponsored groups, and greed of resource based corporations are real........to think otherwise is keeping one's head in the sand.........their "cause" is to reduce/eliminate the recreational/commercial utilization of our fishery resources...no doubt some of the targeted practices have merit--but don't be fooled....the trawler guy might be at the head of the list of some groups(trusts, eco's, AR) actions-yea might be good news for the R&R anglers(both comm & rec)for the short run..but/however, this is but one domino at the head of the list)....with the mega corporations targeting the removal of the day/short trip commercial fisherman-and taking over the total commercial landings.........we better pay attention to these real threats........part of the solution is/are :strong local rec & comm fishing clubs/org....full participation in local hearings/meetings of fishery management..local, state., and Federal.........all the above real threats to fishing have/are well organized and financed.........
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:32 PM   #11
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someone sent me this link
Obama fishing ban story spread by Glenn Beck, ESPN needs to fire Robert Montgomery
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:09 AM   #12
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Exclamation Nice Summation by Al Ristori

..check out latest copy of the THE FISHERMAN magazine(New England Edition-the Steve Shiraka memorial cover)..........Al Ristori's Conservation Watch Column........."Tempest About Administration's Attitude Towards Sportfishing"..........nice overview
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:31 AM   #13
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Sorry to bring this topic up again, but interesting to note that NOAA addressed it. Today:

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Statement from Eric Schwaab, NOAA Assistant Administrator for Fisheries - Announcing Russell Dunn to new position of National Policy Advisor for Recreational Fisheries

Today, I am pleased to appoint Russell Dunn as the NOAA Fisheries National Policy Advisor for Recreational Fisheries and to appoint 22 members of the recreational fishing community from around the nation to a Recreational Fisheries Working Group to provide expertise on saltwater recreational fishing to NOAA’s Marine Fisheries Advisory Committee (MAFAC).

These actions fulfill a pledge made by NOAA Administrator Jane Lubchenco to the recreational fishing community to put in place the national advisor to help lead NOAA’s efforts to create a stronger and more productive partnership between NOAA and America’s saltwater angling community.

As national advisor, Russell Dunn will work with anglers to address their interests as we build and implement an action agenda to provide for the long-term health of fish stocks and work to protect and enhance the significant social and economic benefits fisheries provide to anglers and to our coastal communities. Russell will report directly to me.

Russell, who begins the job on March 28, brings 14 years of public and private-sector experience in national and international marine fisheries policy. He is respected for his experience and dedication by leaders of the recreational fishing industry. He has been the branch chief of NOAA Fisheries Highly Migratory Species Management Division, served as a policy advisor to the U.S. Delegation to the International Commission for the Conservation of Atlantic Tunas, and worked as director of government relations at the National Audubon Society on its Living Oceans Campaign. He also worked for then-Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell. An avid angler, Russell will be based in St. Petersburg, Fla, in the heart of the nation’s largest recreational fishing region. He will serve as the national point of contact for the saltwater fishing community, and coordinate closely with both NOAA Fisheries national and regional staff.

His first duties will include helping Dr. Lubchenco and me to bring together over one hundred recreational fishing constituents and representatives from around the country, including the members of MAFAC’s recreational fisheries working group, to a national summit on April 16 and 17 in Alexandria, Va. At the summit, we will explore issues important to recreational fisheries, and identify priority actions for moving forward.

Russell takes over for Gordon Colvin who has been serving as interim Senior Policy Advisor for the past 6 months. I would like to thank Gordon for his extraordinary service.

Please join me in welcoming Russell to this new and important role.

Eric C. Schwaab
NOAA Assistant Administrator for Fisheries
Worked with HMS, ICCAT. Seems to at least be a step in the right direction, but of course depends on what's done with it. Just good to hear that the voice of a few million pissed off rec fishermen was heard loud and clear...
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