Cup in Newport Yes or No?

[likwid]

Originally Posted by striperman36

4? I am missin a few I am going to have to find them

I haven't gone over the Hinckly.

1 past the paint building.
2 next to where they had Titan's rig when Hall finished it (across from waterline)
1 inside

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by likwid

SD: all the boats are original race boats or trial horses. No new 12's have been built.

And without major surgery/modifications (like adding a deck to keep the water out) most 12 meters would likely sink in offshore conditions. Can't imagine taking one to St Maarten on its own bottom....

[likwid]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

And without major surgery/modifications (like adding a deck to keep the water out) most 12 meters would likely sink in offshore conditions. Can't imagine taking one to St Maarten on its own bottom....

Dockwise.

Nirvana is at NEB next to Blue Yankee
Towse is now Commodore of NYYC. :O

[Nebe]

I've always loved Gleam.
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[nightfighter]

I think Valiant, and maybe Heritage are housed up here.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by likwid

1 past the paint building.
2 next to where they had Titan's rig when Hall finished it (across from waterline)
1 inside

Well that explains why I can't find the 4th one.

I'll look for the other 2 this week at lunch, I love cruising through to no think about something IT related for about 20 min and the drive back and forth along Burma Road is relaxing to

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Ummm, Jess.... There hasn't been a 12 meter built or raced in the Cup since 1987.

while you are right,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

still, those were the best of racing times, no?

and i do see 12Meters doing their thing from time to time in the harbor and around Beaver Tail.
those are amazing boats, i miss watching them sail!!

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Not only that, but when they raced in Newport, they were so far out that you couldnt see them from shore. What you got to see was them being towed in and out by the support boats.
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not from shore,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

from a boat, my bruthah~~~ and YES! i do recall them being towed in and out,,,,,,,,,,,,,
still an awesome sight and worth the price of admission.

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by likwid

There is more than enough money to bring it to Newport.
The powers that be are too happy in their little corner to bother.

Won't ever happen nor will there ever be a NYYC sponsored boat ever again.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

likwid~~~

i am talking about the avg conditions,,,,,,

i am sure that there have been many storms that could sink
these racing vessels out there; but, generally speaking, isn't the Pacific much calmer than the Mighty Atlantic??

what the frick do i know anyways,,,,,,,,,,,
the only sailing i've helmed was a 17' Prindle(sp?) on Lake Walden outside of Houston. or as rail meat for some of the local yokels out of Ida's. wish i knew more and sailed more to be honest. it's "a little" above my pay scale for the time being,,,,,,,,, still, i love to watch The Cup and i do believe that it would be GOOOOD for Newport!!

[Sea Dangles]

I have a friend who has been a captain on the 12's for over 10 years.And while they are not new,they are well maintained,regal vessels.He has some bone chilling stories about transporting boats back from St.Maarten.I've been down there to visit him before.If a 12 year old girl can sail around the globe,it can make transport look sane.

[Nebe]

Doing an ocean passage on a 12 from the mid 70's to the 80's would be akin to fishing the edge of the continental shelf in a center console. You can do it, but.............
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[likwid]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Doing an ocean passage on a 12 from the mid 70's to the 80's would be akin to fishing the edge of the continental shelf in a center console. You can do it, but.............
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Has anyone mentioned Dockwise?

[Saltheart]

I went to all but race 7 in 1983. I sailed out for race 7 with the fleet but it was postponed do to lack of wind so i sailed from the race grounds back to guilford Ct. It was a great experience to see the whole scene in newport. The Aussies are great party animals. I thought it was good that Australia won and even better when Conner won it back from them. There were some great cup defenders leike Intrepid and courageous and Freedom. Many thought the older freedom was a more capable all around boat than liberty which of course lost it. Austarlia ll was a big inovation. It also had a great crew and captain. What Stars and Stripes did to develop a boat to win it back in 87 was really a phenominal show of engineering , sailing and financing efforts. They built 3 trial horses then incorporated all the best in Stars and Stripes 55 which was a remarkeable boat for sailing off the coast of Austarlia. Conner , although disliked by many many many... was a great captain and redeemed himself by winning it right back in 87.

After that it all went to hell with rules becoming court battles and really stupid boats being built. That era ruined the reputation of the Cup as we knew it.

Anyway , its not coming to newport. All that infrastructure that handled it in 83 is all shopping centers and condos now. i didn't like the whole Fort Adams thing. leave that for the everyday people. Let the gazzilionaires buy and develop private property.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Saltheart

After that it all went to hell with rules becoming court battles and really stupid boats being built. That era ruined the reputation of the Cup as we knew it.

Don't worry, Larry Ellison is doing it again.

RIP ACC boats.

[striperman36]

I found America II and Freedom outside today. Where's the 3rd one outside at NEB? Some unnamed white appears to be 12 meter in the row 4 sale though,

[likwid]

Originally Posted by striperman36

I found America II and Freedom outside today. Where's the 3rd one outside at NEB? Some unnamed white appears to be 12 meter in the row 4 sale though,

Thats #3
Its one of the aussie boats (I believe Australia II).
#4 is in the 2nd shed, unless they moved it.

Is Shindig still right at the gate? (the blue hulled sled)

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by likwid

Thats #3
Its one of the aussie boats (I believe Australia II).
#4 is in the 2nd shed, unless they moved it.

Is Shindig still right at the gate? (the blue hulled sled)

yes it is. so that's 4.

there is no markings on the white one at all, its the size and the odd keel that gives a distinct re-look

[likwid]

Thats KZ3 then. One of the first fiberglass 12 meters.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by likwid

Thats KZ3 then. One of the first fiberglass 12 meters.

Nice 1986 trial horse. Yes its a pig compared to recent yachts

[likwid]

Originally Posted by striperman36

Nice 1986 trial horse. Yes its a pig compared to recent yachts

Il Moro is for sale (The red IACC that sat at Hinckley/Hood for a thousand years) on the west coast for $150k.

One of her keel bulbs is still at Hinckley.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by likwid

Il Moro is for sale (The red IACC that sat at Hinckley/Hood for a thousand years) on the west coast for $150k.

One of her keel bulbs is still at Hinckley.

She was in the water last year along with a twin. Red correct?

[likwid]

Originally Posted by striperman36

She was in the water last year along with a twin. Red correct?

Yup. Some "team building"/day sailing company bought her and realized there's no money in "team building" anymore.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by likwid

Yup. Some "team building"/day sailing company bought her and realized there's no money in "team building" anymore.

Lol.
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[nightfighter]

Reality..... This is what awaits every era of Cup participants (both boats and crew...) US 49 being fit into a dumpster.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Reality..... This is what awaits every era of Cup participants (both boats and crew...) US 49 being fit into a dumpster.

So true, they are obsolete after the rich guy finishes the series

[likwid]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Reality..... This is what awaits every era of Cup participants (both boats and crew...) US 49 being fit into a dumpster.

That was a case of some idiot buying it and trying to afford it.
Most of the sailors are still around racing on sleds and in the Med.

AC is more of a side thing these days for crews/drivers.

[PaulS]

Anyone remember when one of the guys from another country got arrested for scuba diving under Connor's boat to take a picture of the keel and got arrested? A friend's friend got arrested for public drunkedness that same night and ended up being handcuffed to the guy. They had to do a perp walk the next day while the guy was still in his wetsuit. He made a few papers.

[Nebe]

You got it wrong. The diver was trying too look at australias new revolutionary winged keel. We knew their keel was different, but didn't know about the wings.
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[Saltheart]

Thats correct. A lot of effort went into getting a look at Australia ll's keel. I remember the diver incident.

I wonder why it was determined that the diver had broken the law and what law he broke?

[Nebe]

Trespassing?
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