Good news for Herring and Bass

[MakoMike]

Bryan I believe, I doubt if blondterror could tell the difference between two boats pair trawling and two boats just working near each other. Bryan, were they the two boats from Norpel?

[numbskull]

I suspect the haddock and cod fishery is many times more important than the midwater herring fishery.

Strip mining anything has short term economic benefit. That does not make it an economically sound decision.

Improving the groundfish stocks very likely has national economic benefit several hundred times greater than anything vacuuming up their young and forage produces.

[piemma]

So I read the article and I have a question.

If they only caught 86 tons of the allotted haddock then how is it that Dave's market (a small chain in RI with great fish) has had it on sales for the last month?

Where is it coming from? It is not flash frozen as I asked the fish monger behind the counter and he said "no, it's fresh caught locally".

Seems like the facts don't add iup.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by piemma

So I read the article and I have a question.

If they only caught 86 tons of the allotted haddock then how is it that Dave's market (a small chain in RI with great fish) has had it on sales for the last month?

Where is it coming from? It is not flash frozen as I asked the fish monger behind the counter and he said "no, it's fresh caught locally".

Seems like the facts don't add iup.

Almost different fish. The haddock that the herring boats were catching are little fish with zero market value. The haddock you see in Dave's is caught by groundfish boats and they have been doing very well on the haddock. The issue for the herring boats is that they are catching too many of the little buggers, and they are only allowed to catch a little.

[piemma]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

Almost different fish. The haddock that the herring boats were catching are little fish with zero market value. The haddock you see in Dave's is caught by groundfish boats and they have been doing very well on the haddock. The issue for the herring boats is that they are catching too many of the little buggers, and they are only allowed to catch a little.

Thanks Mike. Now I understand.

[fish4striper]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Go down to Scarborough in the early winter. Nebe's got the photos.... they were all around the blackfish grounds a couple of seasons ago.

Kevin:
On mud and sand, probably true about minimal impact, although I wouldn't say 'retilling', sandy surfaces in particular are often resurfaced either by wave or tidal currents, but the effect draggers have is pretty sever on Cobble bottoms...

The mid water trawlers were right off Nauset also last fall catching herring and dumping bass as usual.

[Mike J.]

Did they shut down the fishery? I read that 2 boats that fish MWT are leaving but all that means is a bigger piece of the quota for the rest of the fleet from other east coast ports.

Hopefully I misread the article and the fishery is closed.

[JohnnyD]

Any trawler activity pretty much defines the term "rape and pillage".

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

Bryan I believe, I doubt if blondterror could tell the difference between two boats pair trawling and two boats just working near each other. Bryan, were they the two boats from Norpel?

yes.
If memory serves, it was their big navy/yellow paired up.

[angler229]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

yes.
If memory serves, it was their big navy/yellow paired up.

I remember the picture it was the two Norpel boats.

[Typhoon]

Originally Posted by piemma

So I read the article and I have a question.

If they only caught 86 tons of the allotted haddock then how is it that Dave's market (a small chain in RI with great fish) has had it on sales for the last month?

Where is it coming from? It is not flash frozen as I asked the fish monger behind the counter and he said "no, it's fresh caught locally".

Seems like the facts don't add iup.

Icelandic day boat. Caught in the morning. On icelandic auction the next day. One a plane to boston that night.


Ask me how I know

[RIROCKHOUND]

Mike:
I dug up Eben's thread from December, although I think Nebe was wrong on the port, as these are the not Maine boats....

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ragansett.html

This picture in particular is no doubt paired-up close to shore.