Hilary email

[PaulS]

Were all the emails in question sent by someone else or where they created by Hillary?

[DZ]

Whether she put the emails on the server or someone else did is not the issue. She as head of the DOS is ultimately responsible for what is on the server. In government responsibility goes up the chain of the command and blame often goes down the chain. Think about how many department heads over the years were forced to resign when something happened on their watch even though they were not directly responsible.

What is troubling to me is that her campaign continues to state that there is no FBI investigation about her server or emails at all. I'm stumped by that.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by DZ

What is troubling to me is that her campaign continues to state that there is no FBI investigation about her server or emails at all. I'm stumped by that.

Spence said that here, and I was baffled by it. I saw a Hilary apologist on TV last night who said the same thing, she claimed that the FBI has declared that Hilary is not the subject of an investigation.

So what are those 100 FBI agents doing all day?

[DZ]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Spence said that here, and I was baffled by it. I saw a Hilary apologist on TV last night who said the same thing, she claimed that the FBI has declared that Hilary is not the subject of an investigation.

So what are those 100 FBI agents doing all day?

Not sure - I'm starting to wonder about the veracity of that statement. I would have thought there would have been a statement by the FBI to that effect but I haven't seen it. Just reporters stating their sources are FBI employees.

[spence]

Originally Posted by DZ

Whether she put the emails on the server or someone else did is not the issue. She as head of the DOS is ultimately responsible for what is on the server. In government responsibility goes up the chain of the command and blame often goes down the chain. Think about how many department heads over the years were forced to resign when something happened on their watch even though they were not directly responsible.

What is troubling to me is that her campaign continues to state that there is no FBI investigation about her server or emails at all. I'm stumped by that.

If it was revealed that her use of the private server led to some calamity there would likely be some fallout, but to date there isn't any evidence of this.

They don't say there's no FBI investigation, it's that Clinton is not a target of a criminal investigation. This was wrongly reported I think by the NYTimes and just repeated over and over by FOX and all the fake news sites...

[JohnR]

Spence - Keep telling yourself it is a vast RWC

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

If it was revealed that her use of the private server led to some calamity there would likely be some fallout, but to date there isn't any evidence of this.

Makes you wonder why they issue speeding tickets even if the speeding didn't lead to a calamity.

This was wrongly reported I think by the NYTimes , , , and all the other fake news sites...

Fixed,

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Fixed,

Um, speeding is illegal...according to the DOJ her use of the server and to delete private emails wasn't.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

If it was revealed that her use of the private server led to some calamity there would likely be some fallout, but to date there isn't any evidence of this.
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Kinda like making it home driving Chit-faced....No harm, No Foul.

Pretty sure it's still illegal.....or at the very least irresponsible.

And at the very least I shouldn't be allowed to be in charge of the van pool...
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[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Kinda like making it home driving Chit-faced....No harm, No Foul.

Pretty sure it's still illegal.....or at the very least irresponsible.

And at the very least I shouldn't be allowed to be in charge of the van pool...
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You keep comparing illegal activity with legal but not perfect behavior. I'd say it's more akin to steering briefly with your knee.

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by spence

If it was revealed that her use of the private server led to some calamity there would likely be some fallout, but to date there isn't any evidence of this.
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Spence....Petraeus sent 2 emails to the lady friend, they did not cause any damage, or any disaster....so Y is he punished and not her....I know Y, she is the Affluenza lady....

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Kinda like making it home driving Chit-faced....No harm, No Foul.

Pretty sure it's still illegal.....or at the very least irresponsible.

And at the very least I shouldn't be allowed to be in charge of the van pool...
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Good analogy.

Well, except we are fairly certain that other foreign governments were reading the emails of the SECRETARY OF STATE.

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Yep
Typical Democrat
Just like blaming things on someone or something else taking no responsibility

This attitude and moral weakness is killing this country among other things
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That is not a "democrat" thing, yes some democrats do it, and the Rs do it to a lesser extent too. All political persuasions do so at some point and level.

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

Spence....Petraeus sent 2 emails to the lady friend, they did not cause any damage, or any disaster....so Y is he punished and not her....I know Y, she is the Affluenza lady....

Petraeus shared his password with Broadwell (and she had a general security clearance)

[spence]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

Spence....Petraeus sent 2 emails to the lady friend, they did not cause any damage, or any disaster....so Y is he punished and not her....I know Y, she is the Affluenza lady....

Petraeus knowingly disclosed classified information, it's completely different. Had the info become public he'd have done time.

[PaulS]

So if someone had sent top secret files to Colin Powell's private email account, it would have been the same thing?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So if someone had sent top secret files to Colin Powell's private email account, it would have been the same thing?

Yes.

As I understand it, she created the situation where everything needed to be sent to her personal server. Thus, she forced others to send classified material to her personal server. If they had to modify the files in such a way to remove the "top secret" mark so that they could be sent to her server, that's even worse, and she would have to know that people were doing that, in order to send that stuff to her.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Yes.

As I understand it, she created the situation where everything needed to be sent to her personal server.Did not know that. Thus, she forced others to send classified material to her personal server. If they had to modify the files in such a way to remove the "top secret" mark so that they could be sent to her server, that's even worse, and she would have to know that people were doing that, in order to send that stuff to her.

Thanks

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Thanks

Sure.

One of those deals where Democrats are saying she did nothing wrong, and Republicans are making her out to be the WikiLeaks guy. The truth is likely somewhere in between. Hopefully the investigation is fair and non-political.

It won't stop many Democrats from voting for her, it won't get any Republicans to vote for her. What will it do to the independents? WHo the heck knows.

[spence]

The fundamental lack of understanding you guys have over this topic is most certainly mind boggling.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by spence

The fundamental lack of understanding you guys have over this topic is most certainly mind boggling.

Worst of all, bill had a ton of Asian tentacle porn on the server
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

The fundamental lack of understanding you guys have over this topic is most certainly mind boggling.

I know right??...everyone is an idiot and your steadfast defense of a reprobate is perfectly normal something else is quite mind boggling

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

I know right??...everyone is an idiot and your steadfast defense of a reprobate is perfectly normal something else is quite mind boggling

In this case...yes, that may be the case.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

In this case...yes, that may be the case.

"your steadfast defense of a reprobate is perfectly normal"


this part anyway

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

The fundamental lack of understanding you guys have over this topic is most certainly mind boggling.

I don't know, you have IT guys and guys with security clearances and IT guys with security clearances all telling you what she did was illegal and unsecure, yet the strategic messaging guy does not want believe it could possibly be true.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by JohnR

yet the strategic messaging guy does not want believe it could possibly be true.

he knows it's true, the strategic message is more important than the truth in every case

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I don't know, you have IT guys and guys with security clearances and IT guys with security clearances all telling you what she did was illegal and unsecure, yet the strategic messaging guy does not want believe it could possibly be true.

Good plan, when you need sound legal council...call tech support.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I don't know, you have IT guys and guys with security clearances and IT guys with security clearances all telling you what she did was illegal and unsecure, yet the strategic messaging guy does not want believe it could possibly be true.

That doesn't matter, John

Spence OBVIOUSLY stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night...

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

The fundamental lack of understanding you guys have over this topic is most certainly mind boggling.

Wow......just Wow...
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[ecduzitgood]

This is who the Democrats want to run the country.
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-new...evenue-grants/
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[spence]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

This is who the Democrats want to run the country.
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-new...evenue-grants/
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See, this is why the Internet sucks.

The Clinton foundation doesn't use the vast majority of it's funding for grants, instead it funds charity activities directly because they can get more benefit value for the dollar.

Yet people can write this crap and many just lap it up without any regard for the truth.

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by spence

See, this is why the Internet sucks.

The Clinton foundation doesn't use the vast majority of it's funding for grants, instead it funds charity activities directly because they can get more benefit value for the dollar.

Yet people can write this crap and many just lap it up without any regard for the truth.

So set me straight with some facts over how efficient the foundation is and how it isn't a gravy train for the Clintons. Scandals seem to surround these people that you try and portray as honorable and the beat choice to run the country.
I would be embarrassed to support someone who behaves the way they do.
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/klayman/130126
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And remember when McCain was too old to be president well judging how Hillary is just as old as he was the difference must be the vagina.