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01-30-2019, 03:18 PM
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Is it really a "red hat" or is it what is on it and what some people think it represents?
I really have never heard what make America great again really means and when wasn't America great.
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it should definitely be banned 
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01-30-2019, 03:19 PM
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Is it really a "red hat" or is it what is on it and what some people think it represents?
I really have never heard what make America great again really means and when wasn't America great.
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Same thing as draining the swamp. Wtf did he mean??
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01-30-2019, 03:23 PM
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is it what the left wants America to believe it represents (today's version of a white hood)?
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if trump survives his impeachment and the cooking from his intel chef and runs for reelection he should go with KEEP AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
that will drive them absolutely crazy 
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01-30-2019, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Is it what the hat actually represents (support for a populist president)why not have a "Trump" hat, or is it what the left wants America to believe it represents (today's version of a white hood)Some see it as something similiar?
I don't think we were ever not great. It's funny, when Trump implies there was a time when it wasn't great, the left goes berserk. When Michelle Obama explicitly says she never felt pride in America until Barack got the nomination, that was OK.Go look at many many threads where that was discussed.
But we can be betteragree - we should always strive for that, and I think a return to a time when it was easier to be middle class, and to a time when we felt secure that our kids would have things easier than we do. That's how I see the MAGA slogan. I don't see anything sinister there.
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Thanks for giving your view of that. I have asked a few times and people have always dodged that question.
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01-30-2019, 03:45 PM
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Same thing as draining the swamp. Wtf did he mean??
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Not having grifters in the cabinet who ride around on government jets, or use the connection to the Pres. to enrich themselves. I can go on but you read the papers or listen to the news.
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01-30-2019, 03:49 PM
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Thanks for giving your view of that. I have asked a few times and people have always dodged that question.
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you asked why not a trump hat. because he picked another slogan.
why not reserve the racist label, for people who actually exhibit racism? a nutty idea, i know...
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01-30-2019, 03:49 PM
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To me its just a red hat. What I think it may stand for could be completely different than what others think - and that should be fine based on free speech and freedom of expression. I don't wear or even have a MAGA hat but I have other hats that are red - amazing to see people I meet looking real close to what my red hat says like they're ready to pounce - in my case River Whyless, a band I love.
Just look in a mirror and keep repeating: It's only a red hat, It's only a red hat".
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01-30-2019, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
you asked why not a trump hat. because he picked another slogan.
why not reserve the racist label, for people who actually exhibit racism? a nutty idea, i know...
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Some people view his comments and actions as racist.
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01-30-2019, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Some people view his comments and actions as racist.
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they need to grow up
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01-30-2019, 04:01 PM
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I’m starting a rumor that it actually stands for
Make America Green Already
Maybe all the Trumplicans will throw them in the garbage along with their Keurigs, Nikes and gift cards from Penzeys and Starbucks.
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01-30-2019, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
I’m starting a rumor that it actually stands for
Make America Green Already
Maybe all the Trumplicans will throw them in the garbage along with their Keurigs, Nikes and gift cards from Penzeys and Starbucks.
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Make America Think Again
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01-30-2019, 04:14 PM
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I’m starting a rumor
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nobody pays attention to you
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01-30-2019, 04:15 PM
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Double standard what a comical thread
if Obama said or did a fraction of What Trump has done and Said
Those here defending Trump today would have all had brain aneurysms
and become dehydrated from all the foam coming from their mouths
But yet the more he says the dumber His statements or his actions become the deeper they entrench themselves in his defence .. it's amazing to watch 
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01-30-2019, 04:26 PM
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As if on Cue
Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
In the beautiful Midwest, windchill temperatures are reaching minus 60 degrees, the coldest ever recorded. In coming days, expected to get even colder. People can’t last outside even for minutes. What the hell is going on with Global Waming? Please come back fast, we need you!
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9:28 PM - Jan 28, 2019
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01-30-2019, 04:52 PM
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As if on Cue
Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
In the beautiful Midwest, windchill temperatures are reaching minus 60 degrees, the coldest ever recorded. In coming days, expected to get even colder. People can’t last outside even for minutes. What the hell is going on with Global Waming? Please come back fast, we need you!
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9:28 PM - Jan 28, 2019
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And yet his golf course in Scotland had sea walls built to account for sea level rise.
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01-30-2019, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Some people view his comments and actions as racist.
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and many liberals, think that everyone who disagrees with them, is racist. see hilary’s deplorables
speech. i remember inamamkept saying the
mccain campaign was racist. it gets old.
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01-30-2019, 05:56 PM
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The best (and worst) thing about the cult of Trumpism is that any deviation from the officially prescribed adoration is cause for ostracism. Trumpism cannot accept dissenting views from its supporters and will countenance no accountability for the dear leader. What is good is what is Trump; and whatever Trump is, is by definition good.
Jack O’Donnell is the former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino.
On Wednesday, the day after a midterm cycle dominated by President Trump’s divisive fear-mongering about immigrants invading our country, I listened as he told another of the lies for which has become so notorious. During his White House news conference he said, “I’ve never used racist remarks.”
I know the real Trump better than most. For 3½ years, I worked in almost daily contact with him at the highest levels of the Atlantic City casino empire over which he once held sway. I saw him treat black people and minorities as inferior. I heard him say vulgar, bigoted things and I rebuked him for them. But he did not quit. Indeed, he has continued it to this day.
Others who have known him, including his son Eric and former football player Herschel Walker insist he is not a racist. But I don’t see how anyone who has watched him across the 40 or so years could conclude otherwise. After all, he has been so public about it.
We can go back to the start of his career in the early 1970s and the outrage he expressed when Trump and his father were charged by the federal government with discriminating against African-Americans in the rental housing they owned in New York City. Trump’s response was to hire Roy Cohn, who then countersued, calling the Justice Department attorneys “storm troopers” and “Gestapo.” The Trumps ultimately agreed to integrate their buildings, but the Justice Department acknowledged they never really complied. Because they didn’t want to. As Donald saw it, and I remember him voicing a version of this idea within the inner circle of his executives on several occasions: “Blacks don’t want to live with whites, so why isn’t it OK for whites not to want to live with blacks?” I know that in similar fashion he despised the affirmative action guidelines (50 percent female and 30 percent minority at every level) we were required to implement to maintain our gaming license. He would say it was not realistic and a waste of money to train people who did not have the ability.
I recall one busy Saturday night, walking the casino floor with him, when he saw what he considered an inordinate number of black customers. “It’s looking a little dark in here,” he calmly stated. It was his way of telling me to limit our charter bus programs in urban neighborhoods. I ignored him and continued to run the business in the best interest of Donald, the bondholders and the employees.
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01-30-2019, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DZ
To me its just a red hat. What I think it may stand for could be completely different than what others think - and that should be fine based on free speech and freedom of expression. I don't wear or even have a MAGA hat but I have other hats that are red - amazing to see people I meet looking real close to what my red hat says like they're ready to pounce - in my case River Whyless, a band I love.
Just look in a mirror and keep repeating: It's only a red hat, It's only a red hat".
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To Nebe ,that puts you in Hitlers inner circle🤡
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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01-31-2019, 05:11 AM
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again the Trump supporter are unable to apply the same standard to themselves ..
they compare reactions to Trump's MAGA hat as hate or some form of reverse racism
They use Terms snowflake, socialism , communist Terrorism as their catch all with all whom they disagree Fear drives everything conservative
they see someone wearing a Che Guevara or Mao Tse-tung t-shirt to them it means something
But Trump's MANGA hat is just a Hat ... and a white supremacist wearing a swastika or other white national symbols are just exercising there 1st amendment rights ...
Their must be no mirrors in conservative household unless have to you.. say Mirror mirror on the wall whos the most American of us all...
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01-31-2019, 05:38 AM
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they see someone wearing a Che Guevara or Mao Tse-tung t-shirt to them it means something
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you know those guys were responsible for the torture, killing and death of millions of people....right???
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01-31-2019, 05:44 AM
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Don’t let the facts get in the way of the truth Wayne.
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01-31-2019, 05:59 AM
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this is great....
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01-31-2019, 06:12 AM
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this is great....
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They see the hat and run for a safe space.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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01-31-2019, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
again the Trump supporter are unable to apply the same standard to themselves ..
they compare reactions to Trump's MAGA hat as hate or some form of reverse racism
They use Terms snowflake, socialism , communist Terrorism as their catch all with all whom they disagree Fear drives everything conservative
they see someone wearing a Che Guevara or Mao Tse-tung t-shirt to them it means something
But Trump's MANGA hat is just a Hat ... and a white supremacist wearing a swastika or other white national symbols are just exercising there 1st amendment rights ...
Their must be no mirrors in conservative household unless have to you.. say Mirror mirror on the wall whos the most American of us all...
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you know you are comparing trump with mass murderers, and mass enslavers, right? jesus.
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01-31-2019, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
you know you are comparing trump with mass murderers, and mass enslavers, right? jesus.
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What mass murderers did he compare Trump with, not Duterte that Trump admires
Or mass enslavers like Kim Jong-un who is a great friend of Trumps
Perhaps his good friend Putin, who he has secret conversations with.
Or the current ruler of China, who greatly impressed Trump when he eliminated term limits
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01-31-2019, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
What mass murderers did he compare Trump with, not Duterte that Trump admires
Or mass enslavers like Kim Jong-un who is a great friend of Trumps
Perhaps his good friend Putin, who he has secret conversations with.
Or the current ruler of China, who greatly impressed Trump when he eliminated term limits
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pete tell me you aren't this dumb...he compared someone wearing a maga hat to someone going cheguav chic or donning mao wear or a swasticka......the body counts are quite different .............the Clinton's have killed many more than MAGA 
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01-31-2019, 07:37 AM
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you know you are comparing trump with mass murderers, and mass enslavers, right? jesus.
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No just making the observation that a T-shirt or a hat have meanings
And it depends who’s wearing it a child or an adult that also makes a difference
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01-31-2019, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
again the Trump supporter are unable to apply the same standard to themselves ..
they compare reactions to Trump's MAGA hat as hate or some form of reverse racism
They use Terms snowflake, socialism , communist Terrorism as their catch all with all whom they disagree Fear drives everything conservative
they see someone wearing a Che Guevara or Mao Tse-tung t-shirt to them it means something
But Trump's MANGA hat is just a Hat ... and a white supremacist wearing a swastika or other white national symbols are just exercising there 1st amendment rights ...
Their must be no mirrors in conservative household unless have to you.. say Mirror mirror on the wall whos the most American of us all...
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Every time I read one of your posts like this, it just reaffirms the belief that the true crisis that is gripping America is the decreased availability of affordable prescription medications. 
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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01-31-2019, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
No just making the observation that a T-shirt or a hat have meanings
And it depends who’s wearing it a child or an adult that also makes a difference
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of course they have meanings. but an “i love mao” hat isn’t the same as maga, because you can’tl compare trump and mao.
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01-31-2019, 07:43 AM
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No just making the observation that a T-shirt or a hat have meanings
And it depends who’s wearing it a child or an adult that also makes a difference
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matters if kids are wearing it? are you drunk? tell that to the KY kids who were crucified for wearing maga hats.
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