Is this the Place?

[eastendlu]

Nice Mussos lipless swimmer Sgt. those are on my todo list.

[eastendlu]

You can't see it but there is a turkey thermometer taped to the roof on the inside.When it pops lures are done.

[numbskull]

Try two or three light bulbs on a rheostat, Lu. You'll melt less extension cords that way.

[numbskull]

Gee, I didn't know they made cabinets for flammables. I just store them under my wife's home office.

[Bronko]

You guys are all unreal. Some real talent on this board. I wish I had 1/1000 of the woodturning/problem solving/skill that you guys have.

[eastendlu]

George gets up to 200degrees in about 5 minutes with the heat gun.I am working on getting a thermostat and another heat source though.I have not burned or even come close to heating up any extension cords and this was a quick setup to test out.My wheels are still spinning.

[ProfessorM]

Originally Posted by eastendlu

George gets up to 200degrees in about 5 minutes with the heat gun.I am working on getting a thermostat and another heat source though.I have not burned or even come close to heating up any extension cords and this was a quick setup to test out.My wheels are still spinning.

I too am using, since early last year, 2 heated plastic spinner boxes where I get it up over 100 with 2 small light bulbs. The Sys. 3 Clear Coat seems to like it that way a lot. I am only doing 6 plugs per box or 12 total every time I do it.

[ProfessorM]

Yes true but you probably have one of those old fashion hardware stores. None around me anymore with all the big stores. A big coil is only like 7 bucks and you can give some to your buddies.

[BigFish]

sorry guys....looks like i missed a great time! my router was cooked when i got up this am and i am posting this from my wifes tiny iphone and it sucks! hope to be back on tuesday and i will see you all next sunday morn at 8!
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[Grapenuts]

all your big reg.hardware stores like ace....servise starr....most lumber yards....carry the spacers....along with all the other little do -dad's nuts an bolts an things.

[eastendlu]

Originally Posted by BigFish

sorry guys....looks like i missed a great time! my router was cooked when i got up this am and i am posting this from my wifes tiny iphone and it sucks! hope to be back on tuesday and i will see you all next sunday morn at 8!
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No worries Larry as i am catching up to you in my post count.

[pbadad]

Paul, The tubing in rolls is a great idea. I've been using dowels and the plastic sleeves from a hardware store. In my version of the Wadd needle the 1/4' lead rod is not put in the middle w/the thru wire inside. It's offset approx. 3/16" on center below the wire hole. Becauseof the plug taper the insert hole becomes exposed and this requires a dowel filler. When done inside the blank b/4 turning it eliminates shaping the dowel after the fact.

[ProfessorM]

ah I see. Glad you explained that. 3/16 below center. neat idea. good thinking.

[Pete F.]

I use wooden plugs to fill the oversize thru hole, the tubing won't give you any bouyancy.
The whole thing is about the difference between the center of bouyancy and the center of gravity?, at least I remember the terms as that. Read a little bit about yatch design and you will find some good explanations. Weight in the ends makes the boat/plug respond slower, weight in the middle makes it quicker. It's not just how much weight it's where you put it. Don Musso is a master of this, look at a superstrikes weight placement.

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The whole thing is about the difference between the center of bouyancy and the center of gravity?, Weight in the ends makes the boat/plug respond slower, weight in the middle makes it quicker. It's not just how much weight it's where you put it. Don Musso is a master of this, look at a superstrikes weight placement.

Hello.......everybody sleeping in this Sun?

This seems a good place to start. I've found that a little tail weight instead of a hook in the butt of a danny gets you a slower but wider action (I think because of momentum) that bass seem to like. Also helps the plug cast better, and balance better (since the lip and snap on the front end pull the face down).

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[Sgt Striper]

That sounds good, I think I'll give that a try. My Danny's have little bit to much roll..need to address that too.
Thanks for the surfster measurements, got one done. I'll take a pic and post in a few minutes.

[numbskull]

Roll is a different issue and has more to do with the lip and line tie location than weighting.

But before you get too caught up in roll, my best catching danny/donny style plug is so unstable it will do a barrel roll with a twitch of the rod tip. Forget the eyes, keep your paint scheme subtle, and reel sloooowwwwww (conventional tackle helps).....you may be surprised.

[pbadad]

Here one of the Dannys. The weight hole is circled.

[BigFish]

Sorry I am late! Yes sleeping in George....Christmas party last night! Didn't drink a thing just tired! Give me a minute to catch up, post a pic and warm my coffee! Nice looking surfster Sgt.!

[Backbeach Jake]

Sorry I'm late coach...

Tailweighted dannys, I've done that and do except for the little fat ones. Works well to slow it down.
With pikies, too. slowes them down and make them swim more "S" like.

[ProfessorM]

all very good points but TBO I am not looking for buoyancy if I am using that application and all that weight on such a thin dia. plug. I am looking more for the attitude of the plug as it is reeled in or sinks. If I am going for buoyancy than I am probably using a few small belly wgts.only. This is just my 2 cents . You made a valid observation. Jolly good show.

[pbadad]

I'll take a picture of the end of plug.

[pbadad]

Good Morning all. Have you guys had a chance to clean up the saw dust from the week? I filled a 30gal. garbage pail!! On weighting Dannys; I use a 1/2" diameter belly weight slug low to the belly. I feel the lower the weight the harder it is to pull the belly up. I have a few Bm style dannys I made. they swim extremely well. very little roll w/a nice slow side to side. Pinching up the lip sides a little helps somewhat.

[Sgt Striper]

Here's the big surfster and the Nike's.
Now on the Danny's you are just tail weighting, or tail and belly?

[pbadad]

George, on the matter of line tie location, what difference would one find with the same lip i.e. Lefty 2 with a mid hole and hi hole? Could the difference of fractions be made up by bending the wire up or down to create the action of a fixed lip hole?

[pbadad]

1/2" Belly weight only. Dead center no tail weight.

[Sgt Striper]

I'm doing 3/8" belly weight in center, Danny low slot lip, cut just above center.

[pbadad]

My Danny spec are; 2.1oz w/o hooks (white cedar), 1 11/32" dia, 7/8" nose, 13/16" tail. Hooks 1 1/4" & 4" from nose

[BigFish]

So where is Lou and the Prof?? George you crawl back into bed?

[ProfessorM]

her i am Moe. Sucks Lou. I'm a little under the weather today and i only got a few hours till I have to drink the drain O for tomorrow. I'm friggin staving.
Larry those look great.
I had the pleasure of Numby stopping by the shop this week to drop off some real nice older plugs for me to measure and look at.
Yesterday I traveled up to Reading to spend the afternoon with Joe, Rockfish9. He has a great shop and I learned a lot as he was gracious enough to make a few of his darters for me and I was able to watch and learn. Left with some nice plugs too. Joe is a very generous person and I had a great time talking about plugs, fixtures, and dust collection and most of all fishing. Joe is one hell of a fisherman and has been at it for a long time. Been building his own plugs for a long time too. We had some good laughs too.
Thats about it. Did some turning this week but not enough to mention.