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sure sounds good, my heart feels happier when I read it, the little birdies are chirping .....
but wait,,,,,that means people who are on the "new" insurance plans get something I dont? Potential dead beats who suck off society get "free" screenings?
So.....all this demand is going to be handled how? I'll tell ya - when your kid is sick and you need to get them to a doctor...YOU"LL WAIT while some person that smokes dope all day and watches Oprah gets screened for heart disease.
And how will this be payed for? They wont raise the rates on the "new" plans, those people will barely be able to pay them. They'rr raise it on YOUR plan, the working class sucker! Everyone thought this socialsim thing was a crazy right wing conspiracy.....
love this part -
One of the services provided under the new guidelines, obesity screenings, directly impacts the first lady's signature issue, the Let's Move campaign to prevent childhood obesity.
How about we just stop being politically correct and while I drop my kids off at school I just say "Hey fatty" (substitute lard a$$, chubbo, porky, blimp, etc.) to all the "obese" kids, saving not only inusrance costs but their lazy parents ride to the doctor for a "screening"
love this part -
One of the services provided under the new guidelines, obesity screenings, directly impacts the first lady's signature issue, the Let's Move campaign to prevent childhood obesity.
How about we just stop being politically correct and while I drop my kids off at school I just say "Hey fatty" (substitute lard a$$, chubbo, porky, blimp, etc.) to all the "obese" kids, saving not only inusrance costs but their lazy parents ride to the doctor for a "screening"
I couldn't agree more.
The early shadows of the nanny state cast their dark and ugly gloom when they clamored for kids to eat vegetables in the 1980's. Like where does ketchup come from?
Then in the 1990's they denied our children their GOD GIVEN RIGHT to tasty sodas between classes. High fructose corn syrup is made from CORN you know, corn is very healthy and without it we'd have no HEARTLAND IN AMERICA.
Now it's the great diabetes SCANDAL designed to seize individual freedoms in the name of "heath" but really just another notch towards a SOCIALISTIC STATE.
As a responsible parent of a 6 year old who's healthy, tall and thin I don't know what some of these people are thinking.
The early shadows of the nanny state cast their dark and ugly gloom when they clamored for kids to eat vegetables in the 1980's. Like where does ketchup come from?
Then in the 1990's they denied our children their GOD GIVEN RIGHT to tasty sodas between classes. High fructose corn syrup is made from CORN you know, corn is very healthy and without it we'd have no HEARTLAND IN AMERICA.
Now it's the great diabetes SCANDAL designed to seize individual freedoms in the name of "heath" but really just another notch towards a SOCIALISTIC STATE.
As a responsible parent of a 6 year old who's healthy, tall and thin I don't know what some of these people are thinking.
Just get better DNA!
-spence
Parental responsibility, not the governments responsibility. See your response to Fishbones in the racism thread. Treat people as equals and they'll learn self respect. People with fat kids will always fat kids.
You and PaulS are to blind or too ignorant to see that this is another "handout" by the government, forcing insurance companies to offer a service. Now heres the part - SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR IT and that someone is YOU! The working American. Insurance Cos will raise there rates to cover this!
ROI? Are you kidding me? When you have deep pockets you dont need one, you just keep taxing and taxing and taxing!
The death panel is starting to sound like a good idea. Especially if they can include the obese (not me though, I'm just big boned).
Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
they are going to need to order doctors and insurance companies to provide free counseling to the Obamarons for their imminent suicidal depression, after the realization finally sets in for these people who have been duped, first by the New Deal, Great Society, Al Gore/Global Warming...and then Barry Obama/Hope and Change...and the realization that all of the goodies the dems have been selling them in return for votes all of these years was a ponzi scheme crock and all that they've come to rely on is bankrupt and can no longer sustain them ..these poor demented souls are going to need a lot of therapy....
Like I've said before, your one of the least classy people here.
C'MON....coming from you??? one of the least informed people here ...that means absolutely nothing...beyond the admission that you are infact...an "Obamoron" you can't stand the fact that I force you to look at the truth...
"covering preventative"??? you mean, the Obama government forcing private companies, insurance companies, employers...whoever...and ultimately the people paying taxes to "cover preventative" with no co-pay charged... the next thing you need to do is to force/mandate that the people actually to go and get their "free preventative somebody else paid preventative care" on a regular basis or be fined for this to be truly effective...there is really no end to what they can impose and force on the public now...thanks Obamorons
gotta give you guys credit for persistence, you cling desperately to an insane and demonstrably failing and failed ideaology...but you have the little talking points well rehearsed and continue to mock and ridicule those that point out that with facts you are infact socialists and worse (a little honesty would be nice if you are going to continue to bark like a socialist) ...I think that's Rules for Radicals #5 or so...
Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage
I went to the CDC website (Healthy Weight: Assessing Your Weight: Body Mass Index (BMI) | DNPAO | CDC) and used their height/weight method of calculating BMI and it came out to 22, which puts me in the middle of Normal with regards to body fat. The problem with this height/weight method is that body type and fitness level are not included.
Every month or so I have my body composition checked at my gym. They have a machine that uses electrodes on the foot and wrist to measure % body fat, % water, % muscle and other. The last time I got checked, I was at 4% body fat - I believe the range for Normal is 19-24.
Now, we all know where this is going. Doctor's will have to include BMI (which can already be calculated based on the height/weight measurements they take) and insurance companies will start using that number to adjust policy rates. If I succeed in my goal of putting on 15 more pounds of muscle, it will place me on the line of Normal and Overweight with regards to body fat even though I'll still be around 4-5%.
One other example, I looked up Tom Brady's height/weight - 6'4" 225lbs. The standard BMI calculator say his BMI is 27.4, dead center of the Overweight category. Anyone think that's accurate.
At the same time, don't some of you guys try to use the above as an excuse. If you can't see your own toes, the numbers are probably correct.
i come across as an arrogant a$$ but usually dont think I am insulting or condescending
i dont just drop one line insults. I usually try to make a point although I am usually unsuccesful
The thing about tone on a board is...if someone posts something you don't agree with, in your head it gets played back with its own "Soundtrack".....usually in a negative way.
and you may come across as an arrogant a$$....but you're our arrogant a$$
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
Agreed, all people are biased and prob. all sites are biased b/c someone has to write the articles and those people come with a biased view. But I'm sure you agree that certain sites favor the extreme left/right and some try to maintain an "unbiased view".
Your right it is more subtle and I don't think it is insulting as using morons or idiots when making a post like some posters. I'm sure some of your posts can be viewed as condescending (as prob. everyone's can) but I don't recall you using the words idiot/moron, etc. when discussing people/policies you disagree with.
Agreed, all people are biased and prob. all sites are biased b/c someone has to write the articles and those people come with a biased view. But I'm sure you agree that certain sites favor the extreme left/right and some try to maintain an "unbiased view".
"Try" being the operative word. They may try, but they cannot, and should not succeed. Bias is inherent in our nature. Though it may result in immoral views and outcomes, it is necessary in preserving the good and the moral. We are all biased toward our own point of view, and we should be or we should change it. It is important, not to eliminate bias, but to have a bias toward the good. Ultimately, according to my bias, that is not relative. Moral relativity (moral equivalence) equalizes all bias. Its problem is that it reduces bias, morality, and individualism to an irrelevant monotone, to non-existence.
What we have been given in this country by the Founders is the moral imperative of freedom. It is the basis for everything they constructed. It was freedom that they sought, not wealth (they already had that), not social equality (the reduction of all and everything to a "level playing field" is most insidious to individual freedom), certainly not a government that provided all personal necessities (that would limit the personal freedom to create your unique being), certainly not a government that could rule over the individual by dictatorial legislation and TAXATION (that is what they revolted against.) They drafted a Constitution whose moral imperative is to preserve individual freedom and to ensure that any action/legislation/judicial "interpretation" would not impinge on that freedom.
My bias is toward that original Constitution, toward individual freedom within its framework. I admit wholeheartedly to that bias, and I believe that it is a good and moral bias, and I cherish that bias as equal to or better than most other biases I possess. And we are about to have another Supreme Court Justice confirmed who, I think, is biased against that original Constitution and toward one that requires relativistic "interpretation" and that does not restrict Government from acting against the individual but, rather, approves of what Government can do for various, and chosen, groups, usually at at the expense of others. The effect of such activist decisions is to enlarge the power of Government and diminish the freedom of the individual. Obviously, there are many who have a bias favoring this new type of Constitution. If we have come to that point where preserving individual freedom is not the moral imperative, the foundation upon which our Government, our Society, rests, but, rather that we must use the force of Government to favor various groups over others, we have not only abolished the original Constitution, but have ushered in an era of conflict that makes Government King and the individual a pauper.
...that means absolutely nothing...beyond the admission that you are infact...an "Obamoron" 
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