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09-30-2019, 06:59 PM
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Flashback: Pompeo was asked last week by ABC whether he knew about the conversation between Trump and Zelensky. He demurred, saying he just got the report. We now know he took part in the call itself.
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09-30-2019, 07:02 PM
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NEW: Attorney General William Barr has held private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials, including in the U.K. and Italy, seeking their help in investigation of the Russia investigation.
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09-30-2019, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
NEW: Attorney General William Barr has held private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials, including in the U.K. and Italy, seeking their help in investigation of the Russia investigation.
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09-30-2019, 09:00 PM
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Was this illegal or inappropriate?
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Conservatives pretended to be furious that Bill Clinton said hi to Loretta Lynch on a tarmac. Now imagine she'd traversed the globe trying to substantiate anti-Romney smears. That these are different abuses of the office doesn't make this proper or "reasonable."
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09-30-2019, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Conservatives pretended to be furious that Bill Clinton said hi to Loretta Lynch on a tarmac. Now imagine she'd traversed the globe trying to substantiate anti-Romney smears. That these are different abuses of the office doesn't make this proper or "reasonable."
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you know what was said on the plane? wow...
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09-30-2019, 09:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
Conservatives pretended to be furious that Bill Clinton said hi to Loretta Lynch on a tarmac. Now imagine she'd traversed the globe trying to substantiate anti-Romney smears. That these are different abuses of the office doesn't make this proper or "reasonable."
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Since you didn't, or couldn't, answer the question, I'll do it for you. No, it was not illegal or inappropriate for Attorney General William Barr to have private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials, including in the U.K. and Italy, seeking their help in investigation of the current ongoing Russia investigation.
The U.S. has a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty with both Italy and the U.K. Asking for assistance in the Russia investigation if those countries have information that can be of help is not only legal and appropriate and even reasonable, but a dereliction if the assistance was not asked.
This is in no way comparable to Lorreta Lynch tarmac issue, nor at all like seeking smears, especially if not related to an ongoing criminal investigation, and it certainly was not an abuse of office. |
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09-30-2019, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Since you didn't, or couldn't, answer the question, I'll do it for you. No, it was not illegal or inappropriate for Attorney General William Barr to have private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials, including in the U.K. and Italy, seeking their help in investigation of the current ongoing Russia investigation.
The U.S. has a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty with both Italy and the U.K. Asking for assistance in the Russia investigation if those countries have information that can be of help is not only legal and appropriate and even reasonable, but a dereliction if the assistance was not asked.
This is in no way comparable to Lorreta Lynch tarmac issue, nor at all like seeking smears, especially if not related to an ongoing criminal investigation, and it certainly was not an abuse of office.
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Putin’s goals are to get out from under 2 sets of sanctions: one based on messing with our 2016 election, one on invading Ukraine. Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine into settling with Russia & to “prove” Russia didn’t mess with us in 2016 make sense as ways to please Putin.
To contradict and undermine the entire IC of the United States, to exonerate Russia.
This is the foreign policy they’re advancing.
Russia’s foreign policy.
Putin’s Puppet
So ironic that a supposed nationalist like Trump isn't trusting his own citizens but is actively seeking international assistance to support his failing presidency & re-election chances.
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09-30-2019, 07:05 PM
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Whataboutism! Disrtraction! Fear! Corruption! Moscow Mitch might be distancing himself, maybe he sees the writing on the walls. Trump can’t quite understand why the crap he got away with in the private sector won’t work in Washington.
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09-30-2019, 07:06 PM
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yep, scumminess runs through this Administration. Trump calls The Whistleblower a spy, the whistleblowers lawyers say he's afraid as he has been threatened by Trump, Trump then says he deserves to know who the Whistleblower is. Another indication he has no idea what the law is.
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09-30-2019, 07:13 PM
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Just in: Sebastian Gorka is traveling with @SecPompeo to Europe, @Abs_NBC reports. He was seen getting into a State Department van headed to Joint Base Andrews for departure
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09-30-2019, 07:25 PM
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Russia says Trump can't release phone calls without Kremlin permission nbcnews.com/politics/donal… via @nbcnews
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09-30-2019, 07:31 PM
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Conservatives pretended to be furious that Bill Clinton said hi to Loretta Lynch on a tarmac. Now imagine she'd traversed the globe trying to substantiate anti-Romney smears. That these are different abuses of the office doesn't make this proper or "reasonable."
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09-30-2019, 08:54 PM
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I will answer again. She accepted help that gave her an UNFAIR advantage.
Would you do the same PaulS, surely you were raised better than that.
When are you going to answer my question?
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09-30-2019, 08:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I will answer again. She accepted help that gave her an UNFAIR advantage.
Would you do the same PaulS, surely you were raised better than that.
When are you going to answer my question?
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he doesn’t have to
answer, and you’re clearly very angry.
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09-30-2019, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
he doesn’t have to
answer, and you’re clearly very angry.
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aren't you the one who said something about someone here masturbating on a photo of Obama? What shows less class and more anger then that?
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09-30-2019, 09:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I will answer again. She accepted help that gave her an UNFAIR advantage.
Would you do the same PaulS, surely you were raised better than that.
When are you going to answer my question?
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What help? Being given a question ahead of time and that she would have been prepared for anyways? Didn't you just say that you had no problem with Rodger Ailes giving Trump questions ahead of time?. How is that not the same?
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09-30-2019, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
What help? Being given a question ahead of time and that she would have been prepared for anyways? Didn't you just say that you had no problem with Rodger Ailes giving Trump ahead of time?. How is that not the same?
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you don’t think that giving ( and receiving) a debate question ahead of time that’s not given to
the other candidate, isn’t helping the person who received the question.
Gotcha.
How about the use of superdelegates, where bernie could
win a state but fall behind in the delegate count?
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09-30-2019, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
you don’t think that giving ( and receiving) a debate question ahead of time that’s not given to
the other candidate, isn’t helping the person who received the question.
Gotcha.
How about the use of superdelegates, where bernie could
win a state but fall behind in the delegate count?
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it certainly is helpful to the person receiving the question but it is not unethical on Hillary's part someone comes up to her and said hey here's what they're going to ask you tomorrow. It's unethical for Donna brazile to do that. If Hillary approached brazile and asked for the questions that would be unethical but that clearly did not happen. But no one seems to have a problem that Trump was given questions by Rodger Ailes. And Hillary had no part in the super delegates so how is that her being unethical?
Gotcha- what a clown.
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09-30-2019, 09:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
What help? Being given a question ahead of time and that she would have been prepared for anyways? Didn't you just say that you had no problem with Rodger Ailes giving Trump questions ahead of time?. How is that not the same?
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Please don’t breed, Paul.
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09-30-2019, 09:41 PM
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Please don’t breed, Paul.
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Ok hypocrite.
It is no wonder why someone on here previously called you a vile person.
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09-30-2019, 08:58 PM
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Putin’s goals are to get out from under 2 sets of sanctions: one based on messing with our 2016 election, one on invading Ukraine. Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine into settling with Russia & to “prove” Russia didn’t mess with us in 2016 make sense as ways to please Putin. QED
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09-30-2019, 09:03 PM
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NEW: President Trump just told the White House press pool that he is actively "trying to find out" who the whistleblower is.
The President is violating the Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989, 5 U.S.C. 2302(b)(8)-(9), Pub.L. 101-12.
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09-30-2019, 09:04 PM
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New Quinnipiac poll: Do you think President Trump should be impeached and removed from office?
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Yes 47%
No 47%
LAST WEEK
Yes 37%
No 57%
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09-30-2019, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
New Quinnipiac poll: Do you think President Trump should be impeached and removed from office?
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Yes 47%
No 47%
LAST WEEK
Yes 37%
No 57%
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let’s skip the election and just coronate liz warren.
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09-30-2019, 09:12 PM
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let’s skip the election and just coronate liz warren.
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Unlike Trump, I think she would refuse the coronation
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09-30-2019, 09:15 PM
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I think the Trumplicans have stepped thru a space time continuum and gone back to 2016
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09-30-2019, 09:16 PM
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To contradict and undermine the entire IC of the United States, to exonerate Russia.
This is the foreign policy they’re advancing.
Russia’s foreign policy.
Putin’s Puppet
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09-30-2019, 09:23 PM
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Realize some people would call it a "nothing burger" if Trump turned out to be a cannibalistic serial killer and was caught.
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09-30-2019, 10:03 PM
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Flashback: May 1.
Harris: Has the president or anyone at the W.H. ever asked or suggested that you open an investigation of anyone?
Barr: Um.
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Harris: Seems you'd remember something like that and be able to tell us.
Barr: Yeah, but I'm trying to grapple with the word suggest.
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10-01-2019, 04:03 AM
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For Crimin’ Out Loud
Omg they are trying to track down a super secret plot from the time of Da Vinci and Michelangelo to work w Joe Biden to frame the 45th US President and they will threaten to remain in beautiful Italy unless the Italian Govt and Vatican turn over their files.
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