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		|  08-06-2022, 05:58 PM | #61 |  
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				 | Jim’s not a cult member, because a poll said…..
 A Republican candidate for congress says that if he gets elected, he'll file a bill to "Remove #^^^^& Cheney's name from all Federal buildings" due to his criticism of Trump
 
 But remember, they're for "Free speech" and against "Cancel culture." Oh, And they're not a cult.Not at all
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		|  08-06-2022, 06:01 PM | #62 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...3294?_amp=true
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us what either me, or politico, got wrong, please?
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wdmso: tell 
me when democrats ever tried to steal a national election.
 
jim: according to factual history and this politico article, democrats in the house tried to do exactly that in 2016z
 
GS; that’s what about ism, because democrats didn’t write it down. ( it can’t be an attempt to steal an election unless it’s written down, everybody knows that.) |  The rules were followed and nothing happened, to use one of your classics; am I going to slow for you? |  
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		|  08-06-2022, 06:02 PM | #63 |  
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				 | Seeing you don’t follow history 
 For an objection to be considered, it must be submitted in writing and signed by a member of both the House and Senate. Because no senators signed onto the objections made by House Democrats in 2017,
 
 Move to 2030
 
 According to Forbes, "Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) signed an objection to Arizona's electoral votes for Biden"
 
 Even though Republicans were able to get two objections formally considered in 2021
 
 Yep their the same
 
 I love how you refuse to see the before. Claim the during is the same then go back to ignore the after and the current
 
 Not to mention false electors
 
 Please stop cherry picking what happened in 2020 and look at the the totality of Republicans efforts to keep Trump in power .  Compared to 2016
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		|  08-06-2022, 06:03 PM | #64 |  
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Seeing you don’t follow history 
 For an objection to be considered, it must be submitted in writing and signed by a member of both the House and Senate. Because no senators signed onto the objections made by House Democrats in 2017,
 
 Move to 2030
 
 According to Forbes, "Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) signed an objection to Arizona's electoral votes for Biden"
 
 Even though Republicans were able to get two objections formally considered in 2021
 
 Yep their the same
 
 I love how you refuse to see the before. Claim the during is the same then go back to ignore the after and the current
 
 Not to mention false electors
 
 Please stop cherry picking what happened in 2020 and look at the the totality of Republicans efforts to keep Trump in power .  Compared to 2016
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 |  i never said they got any senators to join.  i agree that’s why it failed
 
but democrats in the house, tried to steal the election.
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		|  08-06-2022, 06:09 PM | #65 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  i never said they got any senators to join.  i agree that’s why it failed
 but democrats in the house, tried to steal the election.
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 |  Yet another of the master of false equivalence’s greatest hits
 
Trumplicans in 2020 and 2021 allegedly committed crimes to overturn an election.
 
Jim, what crimes are you claiming the Democrats committed in 2016?
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind! 
 Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
 
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		|  08-06-2022, 06:24 PM | #66 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  Jim, what crimes are you claiming the Democrats committed in 2016?
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 |  None.  You didn't ask me to point out where democrats committed crimes, you asked me to point out where they tried to overturn an election.  That's exactly what i pointed out.
 
Here's your post, an exact quote...
 
'get back to me when Democrats try to overturn a national election"
 
You didn't ask about crimes.  Are you so slow, that you forget your own posts in ten minutes? |  
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		|  08-06-2022, 06:26 PM | #67 |  
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Yep their the same 
 
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 |  I never said there were no differences, there were many differences.  But both were cases of the losing side, unsuccessfully attempting to overturn a national election they lost. |  
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		|  08-06-2022, 06:35 PM | #68 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  None.  You didn't ask me to point out where democrats committed crimes, you asked me to point out where they tried to overturn an election.  That's exactly what i pointed out.
 Here's your post, an exact quote...
 
 'get back to me when Democrats try to overturn a national election"
 
 You didn't ask about crimes.  Are you so slow, that you forget your own posts in ten minutes?
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Stable Genius Jr 
You’re wrong  
Wayne said that 
 
I asked “Yet another of the master of false equivalence’s greatest hits
 
Trumplicans in 2020 and 2021 allegedly committed crimes to overturn an election.
 
Jim, what crimes are you claiming the Democrats committed in 2016?”
 
You know there’s zero equivalence between the two, but your master wouldn’t like that. 
Might make you a RINO 
DeSantis would have you and your employer sanctioned 
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		|  08-06-2022, 07:21 PM | #69 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  Well,Stable Genius Jr
 You’re wrong
 Wayne said that
 
 I asked “Yet another of the master of false equivalence’s greatest hits
 
 Trumplicans in 2020 and 2021 allegedly committed crimes to overturn an election.
 
 Jim, what crimes are you claiming the Democrats committed in 2016?”
 
 You know there’s zero equivalence between the two, but your master wouldn’t like that.
 Might make you a RINO
 DeSantis would have you and your employer sanctioned
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 |  in 2016, house democrats tried to overturn a national election.  their attempt failed when no senators signed on.
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		|  08-06-2022, 07:37 PM | #70 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  in 2016, house democrats tried to overturn a national election.  their attempt failed when no senators signed on.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  Still failing reading comprehension 
 
“Jim, what crimes are you claiming the Democrats committed in 2016?”
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind! 
 Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
 
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		|  08-06-2022, 08:59 PM | #71 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  Still failing reading comprehension 
 “Jim, what crimes are you claiming the Democrats committed in 2016?”
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 |  i answered that question with “none.”
 
but before that? wdmso asked me when democrats ever tried to overturn a national election.  that’s what i responded to.  my response was an exact response to what he asked.
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		|  08-07-2022, 12:23 AM | #72 |  
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				 | Well the Republicans have big plansMarjorie Taylor Greene: “The old Republican Party is over. America First is now the only way and the Trump Republican Party is going to be the party that wins.”
 
 She’s been the GOP spokesperson and de facto gopleader for some time.
 
 At least she is laying it out plain and clear: White Supremacy & Nationalism, while using Christian language, are the fundamental ideologies of the GOP.
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		|  08-07-2022, 05:22 AM | #73 |  
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				 | the crazy leftists really have themselves worked up into a lather....seem determined to convince each other via cut and paste that what they believe....... is actually true |  
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		|  08-07-2022, 08:14 AM | #74 |  
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				 | Republicans have long feuded with the mainstream media. Now many are shutting them out
 Donald Trump, who infamously called the press "the enemy of the people."
 
 Both are cut and pasted so using your logic they are  not true statements or actually happening?
 
 Scott stop being lazy . And actually provide a counter arguments .
 
 The every things a hoax or lie mantra is old already
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		|  08-07-2022, 08:42 AM | #75 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  in 2016, house democrats tried to overturn a national election.  their attempt failed when no senators signed on.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  Jim there was no attempt .or coordinated effort  by democrats to stop or stall the certification of the election  or the peaceful Transition of power 
 
The rules allow for an objection that  requires 2 signatures 
 
Republicans got 2 signatures on 2 objections  thus causing a delay on the vote knowing Trumps plan and they knew about the fake electors hoping Pence would cave .
 
That’s the difference between 2016 and 2020
 
2020 was a coordinated conspiracy to overturn the national election to keep Trump in power  the objections were part of the plan 
 
2016 objectors were sore losers with no support or coordination from the sitting administration
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