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Old 03-12-2019, 09:44 PM   #61
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who is making
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end of capitalism.. i said that cortez claimed that capitalism
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Your the one calling her the new face of the Democratic Party
You have implied much
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:27 PM   #62
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:54 AM   #63
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Spence, you work in Finance, and the most influential democrat in DC said that capitalism is irredeemable. Do you have no comment?

Hereís a hint. When Trump says stupid things, you think that means heís a stupid person. When Trump says awful things, you think that means Trump is an awful person.

But let me guess! In this case, she just misspoke, and/or was taken out of context? But nothing she says, says anything about the kind of person she is?
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Capitalism being irredeemable and bragging about sexually assaulting other human beings as a hobby are two different categories of things people say. One makes you a horrible person, the other makes you an misinformed idiot.

Lets be clear, she isnít exactly the democratic partyís knight in shining armor, no matter what Fox News is trying to tell you. Representatives from both parties show up, say stupid stuff while their star is burning bright and flame out all the time, sheís no different if she just wants to keep saying stupid stuff. Thatís why sheís one of hundreds like her who are asked to collectively make laws for our country... so her being a misinformed idiot just creates noise.
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Old 03-13-2019, 04:59 AM   #64
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strange obsessions with fox....I believe there are many more leftist viewers of fox than righties...it fuels leftist anger....I've become a big fan of NPR..it's like when SNL used to be funny

I still love her....AOC2020
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Old 03-13-2019, 05:00 AM   #65
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Can you fact check before you post. And if you donít care, just donít post.
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Old 03-13-2019, 05:22 AM   #66
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his transformation to SJW is almost complete, they've removed his sense of humor and the ability to understand sarcasm.

Probably looks at the fact the 3 Stooges had to boil a boot for food as a sign that social programs in this country are woefully under funded.

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Old 03-13-2019, 05:46 AM   #67
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Capitalism being irredeemable and bragging about sexually assaulting other human beings as a hobby are two different categories of things people say. One makes you a horrible person, the other makes you an misinformed idiot.

Lets be clear, she isnít exactly the democratic partyís knight in shining armor, no matter what Fox News is trying to tell you. Representatives from both parties show up, say stupid stuff while their star is burning bright and flame out all the time, sheís no different if she just wants to keep saying stupid stuff. Thatís why sheís one of hundreds like her who are asked to collectively make laws for our country... so her being a misinformed idiot just creates noise.
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she is without a doubt, the
most influential person in that party right now.

or maybe the leader of the party is the one who is currently the front runner for president, one Bernie Sanders, another committed socialist ( despite being wealthy with theee homes).

The Dems are doing everything they can, to get trump re elected. he may not get re elected, but they are making it more likely.

i didnít say despising capitalism and bragging about abusing women are the same thing. but is one those things, nothing? Isnone meaningless? Spence will say yes.
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I kinda like Andrew Yang...he's proposing giving everyone a 1000 bucks a month...who wouldn't like that??? I will have 3 in college soon with the oldest already thinking med school so I'm signing on to the free college thing....I could use an extra thousand a month for all sorts of stuff, I could upgrade my Subaru for a TESLA and get all of those govt. rebates before they expire....I'm sick of paying for private health insurance that I never use, I'm happy to have the government pay for that and if I get an Obama phone I could have another 50 bucks a month in my pocket...becoming a democrat could easily swing my budget a couple thousand a month and these candidates are only getting started giving stuff away...hey...I work every day....how about a mandatory maximum 30 hour work week to protect me from myself and evil corporate bosses !!......I'm IN!!!
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she is without a doubt, the
most influential person in that party right now.

or maybe the leader of the party is the one who is currently the front runner for president, one Bernie Sanders, another committed socialist ( despite being wealthy with theee homes).

The Dems are doing everything they can, to get trump re elected. he may not get re elected, but they are making it more likely.

i didnít say despising capitalism and bragging about abusing women are the same thing. but is one those things, nothing? Isnone meaningless? Spence will say yes.
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For someone who constantly talks about the puppet strings of media bias, youíre s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g that Kool-Aid through a fire hose if you think sheís the most influential person in that party right now.
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Old 03-13-2019, 07:55 AM   #70
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For someone who constantly talks about the puppet strings of media bias, youíre s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g that Kool-Aid through a fire hose if you think sheís the most influential person in that party right now.
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When people like you or Spence tell me I'm an idiot, but never explain why, never offer a syllable about what specifically I'm wrong about, or what the correct answer is, it's hard to take you seriously.

It's an opinion that she's the most influential. I can't prove it. But she has, I believe, the largest social media following. And every democratic presidential contender jumped on the Green New Deal, which is about the stupidest thing anyone has ever written. Not ONE of them called it out for the nonsense we all know it is. No one is willing to tell her to shut up, listen, and learn.
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I kinda like Andrew Yang...he's proposing giving everyone a 1000 bucks a month...who wouldn't like that??? I will have 3 in college soon with the oldest already thinking med school so I'm signing on to the free college thing....I could use an extra thousand a month for all sorts of stuff, I could upgrade my Subaru for a TESLA and get all of those govt. rebates before they expire....I'm sick of paying for private health insurance that I never use, I'm happy to have the government pay for that and if I get an Obama phone I could have another 50 bucks a month in my pocket...becoming a democrat could easily swing my budget a couple thousand a month and these candidates are only getting started giving stuff away...hey...I work every day....how about a mandatory maximum 30 hour work week to protect me from myself and evil corporate bosses !!......I'm IN!!!
My wife and I have determined that we could move to Bedford or Brookline NH, get the same exact house we have now, better public schools, and save about $900 a month, and that's WITHOUT tolls in CT, which are coming (every 6 miles on every highway is the latest proposal). So if I can bring myself to move somehow, AND I get my 1,000 a month from Andrew Yang, I'm looking good, I can get that 23 foot regulator.
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:16 AM   #72
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ummmm....name the most influential person in the democrat party right now
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ummmm....name the most influential person in the democrat party right now
Her Green New Deal is a suicide pact. And I believe that every democrat running for POTUS, has igned onto it. They can't stand up to her, none of them.
None are willing to even disagree with her.

AOC is God's gift to Trump. She really is. A dingbat like that is the mouthpiece for her party, her generation, and quite possibly for space aliens.
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Capitalism being irredeemable and bragging about sexually assaulting other human beings as a hobby are two different categories of things people say. One makes you a horrible person, the other makes you an misinformed idiot.
What is the category of things people say that refers to past actions of someone as a representation of who he is now where there is no evidence that he does those things anymore? And for what he has apologized? And for characterizing something that is allowed as being an assault? Is there no redemption for past sins?

If capitalism is irredeemable, are humans also not capable of redemption? If we did something "horrible" in the past are we then forever horrible?

If there is a category for implying someone being what he once was but no longer is, it seems to me that category could charitably be referred to as misrepresentation.


AOC is doing her stupidity NOW while in a position of political power that can influence the entire nation. Trump did what you phrase as "horrible" (really, in its context?) in the private past. Which, of the two, is meaningful to the people of this country today?
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Old 03-13-2019, 06:52 PM   #76
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When people like you or Spence tell me I'm an idiot, but never explain why, never offer a syllable about what specifically I'm wrong about, or what the correct answer is, it's hard to take you seriously.

It's an opinion that she's the most influential. I can't prove it. But she has, I believe, the largest social media following. And every democratic presidential contender jumped on the Green New Deal, which is about the stupidest thing anyone has ever written. Not ONE of them called it out for the nonsense we all know it is. No one is willing to tell her to shut up, listen, and learn.
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Remember Jim is arguing against himself. Thereís at least a half dozen inaccuracies even in just the post you quoted.
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the CEO of Wells Fargo made her look every bit as stupid as she is.

A bank which finances a project, is responsible for the actions of the operator of the project?

so if i use my house as a
meth lab, the bank that gave me my mortgage, is responsible. That what this dunce is saying.
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how about pointing them out, with corrections?
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What is the category of things people say that refers to past actions of someone as a representation of who he is now where there is no evidence that he does those things anymore? And for what he has apologized? And for characterizing something that is allowed as being an assault? Is there no redemption for past sins?

If capitalism is irredeemable, are humans also not capable of redemption? If we did something "horrible" in the past are we then forever horrible?

If there is a category for implying someone being what he once was but no longer is, it seems to me that category could charitably be referred to as misrepresentation.


AOC is doing her stupidity NOW while in a position of political power that can influence the entire nation. Trump did what you phrase as "horrible" (really, in its context?) in the private past. Which, of the two, is meaningful to the people of this country today?
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lots of vague insults. not a lot of specifics as to where weíre wrong.
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He's got nothin.
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He's got nothin.
defending her is a rough proposition.

Biden teasing at running. I think heís their best shot.
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Itís not intended to be insulting, you both are just happily eating a narrative thatís being fed to you, which is intriguing given the typical tone you strike about the effect of that same tactic on groups of people you disagree with
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It’s not intended to be insulting, you both are just happily eating a narrative that’s being fed to you, which is intriguing given the typical tone you strike about the effect of that same tactic on groups of people you disagree with
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So if you can't dispute, you discredit, and not by facts but merely by spouting some unverified nor well thought out opinion. Your not exactly an original thinker. Could you point out to me the source that feeds me narratives? I'd like to acquaint myself with that genius.
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clearly FOX as directed by the Koch brothers is feeding you two the narrative which you then cut and paste here like good little racists... Politics hasn't been this much fun in a long time and I think it's only going to get better
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You guys are debating like sheís running for President in 2020 and while I believe her plan is financially and logistically impossible in the timeline proposed; Iíd be shocked if the final democratic candidate adopts that radical a change. I would say that unless your an fool, or have your head in the sand, or just donít give a damn about future generations; the reports (predictions) released in the last few years on climate change are going to cost far more them anyone can even quantify. AOC represents one extreme and Trump and his views and policy changes represent the other extreme; his head is in the sand when it comes to climate change.
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itís very easy to say iím thoughtlessly swallowing a narrative. how about telling me exactly where and why iím wrong?

i explained why i say sheís the
most influential democrat. She has a massive following, and no matter how catastrophically stupid hernideas are, all the presidential contenders race to be the first to embrace them.

how is that wrong, exactly? you canít make your point by saying iím wrong. Show me iím wrong.
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You guys are debating like sheís running for President in 2020 and while I believe her plan is financially and logistically impossible in the timeline proposed; Iíd be shocked if the final democratic candidate adopts that radical a change. I would say that unless your an fool, or have your head in the sand, or just donít give a damn about future generations; the reports (predictions) released in the last few years on climate change are going to cost far more them anyone can even quantify. AOC represents one extreme and Trump and his views and policy changes represent the other extreme; his head is in the sand when it comes to climate change.
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think about it this way.....the earth has been around for about 4.543 billion years and life has existed on it for about 3.8 billion years....of all of the life that has existed and been extinguished on this planet over the last 3.8 billion years(and that is an unimaginable number of lives I suppose) YOU have been fortunate to exist in human form(not a bug thankfully for you) for what is little more than a strobe's flash in time ... and also fortunate to enjoy a point in earth's history where you can sit at a keyboard communicating with people all over the planet without fear of being eaten, stepped on and squished, or otherwise killed which is the fate that most life on this planet has enjoyed over those many years..... you only have to walk to the fridge for a snack rather than rooting around the forest floor.......we are a species that ultimately only really care about ourselves individually no matter how much we claim to care about other things......it's just an attempt to convince ourselves that we...in our incredibly insignificant stay on this planet, are more important that we really are...why do people pack themselves into coffins and put a stone above the hole??? The want to remind everyone "I WAS HERE"....which is fine for a while but after a short time....nobody really cares that you were here and you are just taking up space in what could probably be a really nice golf course....we each are a speck of sand on a vast desert...no matter which direction you roll you will have no effect on that desert's eventual contour..but we can waste our time thinking that we matter or we can be grateful that we are not going to be eaten by a dinosaur today
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