This explains a lot

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

If citizenship wasn't important in the progressive educational institutions what do you attribute to the low scoring conservative states?

the tests are harder

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

the tests are harder

is that why they have lower educational achievement and lower average earnings? Might need to pay their teachers more?????

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

is that why they have lower educational achievement and lower average earnings?

I heard they are happier.....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

is that why they have lower educational achievement and lower average earnings? Might need to pay their teachers more?????

Yes, there's all kinds of evidence to suggest that teacher pay is coordinated with student performance!! That's why private schools, where teachers are paid with dirt, score so poorly.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Yes, there's all kinds of evidence to suggest that teacher pay is coordinated with student performance!! That's why private schools, where teachers are paid with dirt, score so poorly.

So as an actuary you would have no problem comparing public schools which have to take every student regardless of ability to private schools where you have the ability to test and pick and choose which students you want to accept?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So as an actuary you would have no problem comparing public schools which have to take every student regardless of ability to private schools where you have the ability to test and pick and choose which students you want to accept?
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i agree it’s not an apples to apples comparison. but it shows that teacher compensation has
little to do with it.

how about if we spent the money on programs that encourage good parenting, making public schools look more like
private schools?

and if you look at test scores in public schools
by state and overlay that with teacher compensation, you won’t see
much correlation. if there was a correlation, i’d be on board with huge compensation.
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