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01-21-2004, 01:23 PM
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I'm just getting started.
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Avon-by-the-Sea,N.J.
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Drilling
I'm just getting started and can use some help,I have a small 10 inch drill press,is there any way I can use this to pre-drill a 10 inch square and have the holes meet? I've tried a square corner jig but since I cannot use the table( not enough room to fit the block and the bit) is there any other way
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01-21-2004, 01:41 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
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u own a lathe theres another way that's 99.9 percent as good if not better. for me atleast.
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BOAT fish do count.
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01-21-2004, 01:41 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Try a shorter bit from both ends using the square, then maybe just connect the two in the middle at the end without the square?
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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01-21-2004, 01:44 PM
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I'm just getting started.
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Avon-by-the-Sea,N.J.
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Yes Cap. I have the Fisch Lathe how hard is it to drill with a lathe?
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Tony
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01-21-2004, 01:53 PM
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Location: Libtardia
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Thats a royobi drill press? Its the same one I use... I went through a bit of a learnign curve, but now I get everyone perfecto...
use a regular bit and your 90° block... drill the regular sized bit slowly down each side until you cant drill anymore... Then with a hand drill, drill out the rest of the blank with your long bit.. go slow and go in and out to allow the shavings to exit the hole.... the slower you go, the straighter the hole will be..
I'll flip the blank about 2 times with the long bit and drill from each direction, This way I know I'm getting all of the shavings out.
good luck
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01-21-2004, 02:04 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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I'll show you after I get home tonite with pic's , so you'll know how both ways.
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01-21-2004, 02:08 PM
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Location: Cranberry Coast Gateway 2 Cape Cod
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Quote:
Originally posted by Eben
Thats a royobi drill press? Its the same one I use... I went through a bit of a learnign curve, but now I get everyone perfecto...
use a regular bit and your 90° block... drill the regular sized bit slowly down each side until you cant drill anymore... Then with a hand drill, drill out the rest of the blank with your long bit.. go slow and go in and out to allow the shavings to exit the hole.... the slower you go, the straighter the hole will be..
I'll flip the blank about 2 times with the long bit and drill from each direction, This way I know I'm getting all of the shavings out.
good luck
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do it the same way
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" Happy as a clam at high tide "
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01-21-2004, 02:41 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Western Mass
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I found that if you start with a brad point bit it doesnt tend to wander.
Just my 2 cents.
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01-21-2004, 04:40 PM
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Buzzards Bay/Onset, MA
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Tony,
Drilling with the lathe is the easiest and most accurate. Slip showed me how at the plug-get-together, thanks Slip.
I found a 1/2" drill chuck with key and #2 MT arbor for my Jet mini at this place for $6.00 !!! It works great. I bought the same chuck last year for my drill press and the quality seems pretty good.
http://wttool.com/Merchant2/merchant...ode=18500230p0
Hopefully with the pics from Capesams you will be on your way.
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01-21-2004, 06:35 PM
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Authoritaah
Join Date: May 2003
Location: attleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally posted by Eben
Thats a royobi drill press? Its the same one I use... I went through a bit of a learnign curve, but now I get everyone perfecto...
use a regular bit and your 90° block... drill the regular sized bit slowly down each side until you cant drill anymore... Then with a hand drill, drill out the rest of the blank with your long bit.. go slow and go in and out to allow the shavings to exit the hole.... the slower you go, the straighter the hole will be..
I'll flip the blank about 2 times with the long bit and drill from each direction, This way I know I'm getting all of the shavings out.
good luck
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jeez dude, you should be writing for Hustler
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Is it good, or is it Sofa King good?
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01-21-2004, 07:24 PM
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I believe that you can loosen the powerhead, and turn it 180 deg., so it isn't over the base anymore. You might have to screw the base to the table though because it won't be balanced anymore. Then with the powerhead hanging over the edge of the table you can drill anything that will fit under the chuck.
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Life is like a poop sandwich, the more bread you've got, the less poop you taste.
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01-21-2004, 08:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by blackeye
jeez dude, you should be writing for Hustler
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As he thrusted his carbide tipped warrior into her quivering alaskan yellow cedar blank.......
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01-21-2004, 08:39 PM
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Location: Fairhaven, MA
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I had a drill press like that and I loosened the column at the base. Before I moved it I made reference marks so it could be put back. Now I use jobbers' length drills and drill from both sides. I bought brad point drills (12") from Woodworkers' Warehouse and on the first try the drill bit straightened out. The troughts actually strait. WW refunded my money and recommended jobbers' length. The trick to getting the holes to meet is to have the ends of the blank perfectly square.
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01-21-2004, 08:56 PM
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01-21-2004, 09:09 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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I'm using a pike I had sitting near the lathe, most plugs can be done in the up coming pic's.
Last edited by capesams; 01-21-2004 at 09:12 PM..
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01-21-2004, 09:13 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Just my 2 cents. I always drill with my lathe. I use a 3/16, 6" long brad tip aircraft drill bit. I bought this plastic template at Woodworkers Warehouse that enables me to find the center in any stock round or square.
I drill from both sides and rarely miss. When I am off a bit I can usually re-drill and compensate. The trick is to back off every so often to allow the flutes in the bit to clean themselves. I don't know if that makes sense but the bits tend to wander or walk when the get full of wood. Kinda like chipping away at the hole.
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01-21-2004, 09:14 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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Last edited by capesams; 01-21-2004 at 09:40 PM..
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01-21-2004, 09:25 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
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Location: Rhode Island
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Exactly. I drill the stock before I turn it.
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01-21-2004, 09:25 PM
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I'm using a pike I had sitting near the lathe, most plugs can be done in the up coming pic's.
Last edited by missing link; 01-21-2004 at 09:35 PM..
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" Happy as a clam at high tide "
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01-21-2004, 09:28 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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good..fix the rest too.
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01-21-2004, 09:33 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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Last edited by capesams; 01-21-2004 at 09:41 PM..
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01-21-2004, 09:33 PM
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find your centers , both in the front an tail of the plug
Last edited by missing link; 01-21-2004 at 09:35 PM..
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01-21-2004, 09:38 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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this is where I put an 1/8 brad point drill bit in the chuck. then drill in only about a 1/2 or so on both ends of the plug holging by hand at this point.
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01-21-2004, 09:43 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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at this point I have changed the brad point over to an 1/8 long bit.
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01-21-2004, 09:44 PM
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resized for ya
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01-21-2004, 09:46 PM
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resize again
at this point I have changed the brad point over to an 1/8 long bit.
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01-21-2004, 09:50 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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now I take the tail end of the plug an put it in the pin on the right side of the lathe.
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01-21-2004, 10:01 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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ok. at this point with the tail of the plug in the pin, I slide the whole thing, plug an the right side of the lathe into the longer bit very slowly, only about a 1/2" at a time an then backing off to clear the bit. then push the plug on again,,,back an forth,,, till I'm atleast alittle more than half way threw the plug...then turn the plug around an repeat , you can feel the bit hit the other side of the hole that you have just drilled...take the plug off an get it alittle blow [in the hole] to clear out the dust...this only takes sec.'s when you get going an I've never had a miss.
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01-21-2004, 10:06 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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what happen to the pic's..their huge..... ..sam's been home again an been messin with thing's any help to down size these would be great if you could do it.
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01-21-2004, 10:08 PM
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here
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