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Old 02-10-2004, 02:04 AM   #1
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strongest knot?

what do you guys use for a knot on your leader/hook? i've been using a palomar.is this the stronest knot?
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Old 02-10-2004, 05:29 AM   #2
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It is the one I use. Sometimes I will use an improved clinch

Palomar is great for heavy leader material
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Old 02-10-2004, 07:12 AM   #3
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It's strong. but more importantly, it's almost impossible to tie it badly.
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Old 02-10-2004, 10:10 AM   #4
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What they said....I like palomar where ever I can tie it. It tests at 100% breaking strength of the line plus it has two lines that wrap around and make contact the hooks eye, instead of one for the clinch. Putting less stress on any one in case it gets knicked slightly. However, having tied the improved clinch all my life I can do it in pitch darkness without looking so sometimes in the heat of the battle I tie that or in cases where I have a heavy-ish leader and a tiny spro swivel where fitting two lines in that little hole is too binding. Both are good knots to know IMO. There are a handful of fishing knots you need to know IMO for different apps. Albright, surgeons, blood, dropperloop ect. Lefty (and Mark Sosin) has a good book out on knots...worth reading the discussion on their use for background, ...it changed the way I do a couple of things.
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Old 02-10-2004, 10:21 AM   #5
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the fisherman has a good article on knots this weeks edition. It Basicly says learn a couple of knots very well, use plenty of spit to lube the knot, and make sure you tighten the knot with the spit, it acts as a lube. They say that the Triline knot is the best, I believe that this is the same as the improved clinch knot. What ever I beleive that the polymar knot is very strong easy to tie and very strong. I have started to tie the triline knot and it works very good. I made a little jig to test the knot strenghts. I thbink that poorly made knotsaccount for more lost fish than anything else.
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Old 02-10-2004, 11:13 AM   #6
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I have been using the Palomar and it is a quick knot to tie and strong!!
But I have also been trying to use another knot called the Berkly Braid Knot. It is strong strong strong!! I tyed it to a hook using 65# Stealth and then clamped it in a vice. I pulled like heck and I could not break the knot!! I broke the line were I wraped it around a screw driver everytime never hurting the knot.
Try it you might like it!
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Old 02-10-2004, 11:28 AM   #7
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Looks like a clinch but doubled up
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Old 02-10-2004, 11:38 AM   #8
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Looks like a good knot to learn for when you've got too much schtuff to pass through the loop of a palomar.

I've never tied terminal tackle direct to braid though. I'd probably tie this to a swivel on a pre-tied leader.
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:40 PM   #9
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Thats what I do, Hooked. All my stuff has some kind of leader be it Flro, or mono. So I tye this to the swivel worked well for me at the end of the season as then is when i found it.
There are to Knot tying sites , more I am sure but here are to i went to
http://www.marinews.com/fishing/fk_main.htm

http://www.tnoutdoorsmen.com/knots.htm
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:48 PM   #10
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Here's more knot websites..

http://www.netknots.com/html/fishing_knots.html
http://www.leadertec.com/knots_index.html
http://www.fishsa.com/kntiesun.php


I like the Trilene knot but I also use the Palomar. I haven't had any trouble with either. Happy Knot tying! NOT!!!

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Old 02-10-2004, 01:30 PM   #11
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Any different Knots that you would use for Braid vs. Mono? I pretty much tie everything w/ a palomar. Once in awhile I use a trilene.
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Old 02-10-2004, 02:27 PM   #12
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Clinch type knots are not recommended for some braids due to the slip factor.

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Old 02-10-2004, 04:33 PM   #13
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here's another good fishing knot site

http://shoreangling4u.tripod.com/knotguide/id9.html

Is it good, or is it Sofa King good?
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Old 02-10-2004, 04:36 PM   #14
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uni to uni for mono to braid and braid to floro . I use the palomer for terminal tackle and also the improved clinch knot .
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Old 02-10-2004, 04:37 PM   #15
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I think the polamar is the best knot for tying on a hook , snap or swivel , or jig under most conditions

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Old 02-10-2004, 08:47 PM   #16
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I'm a creature of habit and even when the palomar came into popularity, I'd long since been tying the improved clinch. I rarely loose fish due to a bad knot, but then again I close every one wetted and slowly to avoid heat.

For braid no contest uni knot, no damn glue required, no slipping. So it's uni on the braid, improved clinch on my mono, if it ain't broke I'm not fixing it.
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Old 02-11-2004, 12:13 AM   #17
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polamar for braid Trilene for mono
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Old 02-11-2004, 01:51 PM   #18
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I*ve been using the Uni-not since it was shown to me about 25 years ago and it seems to work real good on everything up to like 60 lb line then I use nail knot.Another that I use for tuna hooks is Beechers Knot
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Old 02-11-2004, 02:21 PM   #19
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Braid to mono/fluoro leader connection: I use a swivel, haven't found a knot that doesn't lead to breakoffs, especially with brittle fluorocarbon leaders.

Mono leader/fluoro to bait hook: Uni knot snell OR clinch knot OR palomar.
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Old 02-11-2004, 02:30 PM   #20
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For the 2 years I've used and tested the berkeley braid knot like macojoe posted I have never had a knot fail with yozuri hybrid, power pro or stealth. Most of the time when the line broke when tested was on the main line, never at the knot.
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Old 02-11-2004, 03:54 PM   #21
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Page 38 of this weeks FISHERMAN magazine has a nice article on tying a stronger knot.
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Old 02-12-2004, 11:23 AM   #22
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was looking at the little pic for Berkley braid knot and that IS Beechers Tuna knot.Only difference is they don*t wrap over with electrical tape
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