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10-22-2004, 12:48 PM
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Dave's Guide Service
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cape Cod
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wondering on primer
what do You use for oil based primer?
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Pro Tool Club....
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10-22-2004, 04:41 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: not a clue
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I'd like to find that perfict white gold myself,,,but as I understand it..primer is just oil[sealer] with white pigment..so my ? is if you seal your plug with some form of oil sealer that is basicly your primer..then spray on a coat or 2 of flat/semi white/grey and your off an running.
am I way off base here??..
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BOAT fish do count.
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10-22-2004, 05:36 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2002
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using either rustoleum flat white, or krylon flat white latley.
long as its oil base, why not?
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10-22-2004, 07:41 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: somerville and hyannis
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i got my note book out.. tell me what you like..
and why it works for you..
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I heard somewhere that piping plover is indian for "tastes like chicken" ..
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10-22-2004, 09:15 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
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hot fudge sunday with pineapple on top
cause it taste's good 
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BOAT fish do count.
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10-22-2004, 10:11 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
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brownies with a peanut butter center.
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Domination takes full concentration..
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10-22-2004, 10:59 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
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BOAT fish do count.
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10-23-2004, 09:10 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Kentucky
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Quote:
Originally posted by ThrowingTimber
brownies with a peanut butter center.
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Don't forget the chocolate icing too
Jigman
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10-26-2004, 07:28 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
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primers are easier to sand then paints.I use the rustoleum.I use to use several coats but I'm cutting back as I think the primer an the paint is now the soft prt of the plug.I seal with sys 3.but its alot of work.my own stuff i just primer an paint an dip in urethane an go fishin.
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10-26-2004, 08:22 AM
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Needlefish Nazi
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,754
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DAVE , You can use white or grey primer  Just busting your STONES , Call me...................
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10-26-2004, 11:22 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
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1st: seal entire plug with low viscosity epoxy, sometimes I reduce with acetone to help saturate. Entire plug= end grain & tapered portions esp., thru-wire hole, grommet holes, eye insets, etc. Leave slight excess on surface and let cure. (Tip: small, round, bottle-type brush good for thru-wire holes. Wife's old mascara,old wife's mascara, or in between teeth kind. Need to attach this brush to about a foot of wire. Crimp sleeves work.)
2nd: Sand thoroughly,120 to 180 grit, avoid exposing any raw wood. Dust and inspect for any remaining glossy spots. Scuff these with scotch pad. Spray don't brush 2 coats Interlux 404/414 two part epoxy primer reduced as needed with 2316 spray thinner.(available at marine supplies). Sand lightly 180 or so grit. Dust and proceed with subsequent color and clear coats. Observe good painting proceedures throughout; gloves, surface contamination etc.
The epoxy sealer virtually waterproofs the wood. I've never noticed any waterlogging even after prolonged immersion. It also hardens the surface considerably , increasing durability and extending refinish intervals.
The epoxy primer is extremely tough and 100% compatible with virtually everything out there. Oil base, water base, epoxy, urethane, 2part linear polyurethane, alkyd enamel, etc.,etc.
Obvious downside: increase expense, considerably increased time and effort. Probably impractical for large scale and/or commercial applications.
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'butcher "distiller of fine karma since 1965"
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10-27-2004, 07:30 AM
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Dave's Guide Service
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cape Cod
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I have a special plug that I epoxy the bare wood but that wood does not bleed.
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10-27-2004, 11:50 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Oh Boy! I just re-read my post and realized that someone might get the wrong idea when I stated that Interlux 404/414 primer is compatible with everything out there. Actually it is, but only when used as a Primer i.e. 1st coat over bare wood or bare wood sealed only with epoxy. Wood sealed with oil would cause big adhesion problems. Put anything you want on top of it, but under it, bare wood or epoxy only sealed wood. (God! I hope that did'nt cause anyone grief.)
Also, the stuff has real good sealant qualities probably a good stain barrier too. If ever I decide to skip the sealant step and prime straight over bare wood this is definitely my 1st choice.(white gold?...maybe)
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'butcher "distiller of fine karma since 1965"
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