Saltiga 4500 update so far. - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

tlapinski · 09-30-2005, 07:54 AM

I know several of you were waiting to see how the reel has held up, so I figured I would give a little update. I have been using this real pretty hard so far this season. From the early season back in April, through the summer, and into the start of this fall, it has been a great reel. I started off using 50# Stren braid, but swithed back to 50# Whiplash last week on Cutty. The reel has spent many nights under water whether wetsuiting or just deep wading. Not even a slight sign of jerkyness in the drag or any reduction in performance. The reel absolutely out performs any other spinning reel I have tried so far, and I think I have gone through them all. I didn't even touch my VS's until last week, and that was just to see how it would feel after not throwing it in a while. I will probably be picking up another one of these reels this off season and retiring my back up VS250 all together.

The reel has several 30#ers, and more 20#ers than I can count under its belt so far. I am 100% happy with every aspect of this reel so far.

Ok, now for the ONE issue I have had so far. Last week, somehow, about a 3/4" piece of the reel foot broke off. The reel still functions perfectly, but I am in the process of contacting Daiwa to get it fixed/replaced, or whatever they will do. It may have the stress of one of the greatest blitzes I have ever experienced, or just a slight flaw in the reel. Not sure yet. The reel did go through about 60 - 70 fish in 3 nights, with about half of them over 20#'s, so it took some serious abuse.

Well, it's off to Block today, so hopefully I'll be back on Sunday with more big fish under its belt.

JohnR · 09-30-2005, 08:45 AM

You Suck Toby! You get to fish Cutty and Block back to back, tons of sweet fish, and really work out that reel. I hope you have lousy time on Block and only get one fish (a Fifty

) and really test out that reel!

Good luck - sounds like a real sweet reel!

Thanks & good luck,

John

SocalStriper · 09-30-2005, 02:08 PM

I cannot believe how much they jack up the price for a spinning reel.
I have to agree though, daiwa dominates on quality.

Saltiga Baitcaster is $400 to bad its hard to work a plug with one

DRUMCORPFAN · 09-30-2005, 02:17 PM

good report, thanks for the info toby.

SeaWolf · 09-30-2005, 03:14 PM

agreed, good report toby. i still cannot believe you wetsuit for those 20#+ scup!

so, who else has a saltiga to critique after the season thus far? i'm still pleased w/ my vs250 in the wash and rocks. of course, nothing like the pressure put on a bass w/ an abu 7000c3.

bassmaster · 09-30-2005, 03:19 PM

toby, has the reel seen any sand?
thanks

Thom · 09-30-2005, 03:19 PM

I saw one of those on that AUCTION SITE at the time high bid 220.00 buck. If I wasn't going on a hunting trip I would be biding. THomt

ThrowingTimber · 09-30-2005, 03:29 PM

Awesome feedback and good luck out there!

JoeP · 09-30-2005, 03:42 PM

This is my second full season with the Saltigas, and while I don't fish as hard as Toby from reading his posts, my reels are as good as new. The reels have experienced plenty of dunks, splashes, and some nice fish.

These have been my only years without any reel problems, and that includes 2 years fishing Van Staals and a few years fishing Ahab's.

rhodyflyguy · 09-30-2005, 04:34 PM

i've got a saltiga blast 4500 that's landed 2 bluefin, countless blues to 16 lbs, and lots of bass to 5 or 6 lbs, and it has yet to see a drop of oil. this is pretty sweet, those regular saltigas must be awesome!

Rock Hopper · 10-02-2005, 08:35 AM

I have been using these reels for two full seasons now and have skished with them, swam to rocks with them and still have not sent them for servicing, they still have not missed a beat. The first paragraph of Toby's evaluation is on the money.

Regarding the question of "have they seen sand?" Mine have as when you are coming back in from skishing you get tossed around like a rag doll at the surf line usually and in one particular case the rod and reel were dragged on the bottom so much that the reel was covered (literally) in sand and the guides had sand build up on the corners (I was worried....) I washed it off, took it out again later that night and it was like the sand was never even on the reel, smooth, quiet and without flaw in it's operation.

I have already made my any other reel, including my VS reell the back up's to my two saltiga's and am considering getting another one in the 5000 or 6000 range to replace the VS 300. If you consider getting them, there is source that always has them in stock (they can be hard to find), they are an online dealer based in NJ and turn the order around very quickly.

Rock Hopper

leptar · 10-02-2005, 09:27 AM

Read this

and this

check out the video too

NIB · 10-02-2005, 05:27 PM

ouch.not sure the same stress is involved in striper fishin.for the most part.a good fish in the canal could probably do it.

JPowers · 10-02-2005, 05:40 PM

I'll let you know.

But, I seriously doubt it - not with the 5000Z.

tlapinski · 10-02-2005, 06:08 PM

Now there seems to be another issue with the reel. Over the weekend, a noise developed. At first I thought the roller bearing was shot, but I still hear the sound with the spool removed. It is sort of a "swooshing" noise from within the reel. Definately sounds like some sort of bearing crapped out.

BM - I got a bit of sand in the reel this weekend as I was fishing a rocky/sandy beach. More than a little sand got under the spool as I took a few waves. One quick dunk, and she was nice and clean. The reel didn't grind up like a VS or 706 does when sand gets in it. By the design of the spool, it seems to let less sand under the reel.

NIB · 10-02-2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JPowers

I'll let you know.

But, I seriously doubt it - not with the 5000Z.

U know a giant is coming.Its in their now.

I'm lookin forward to the day U break the record.
Gorilla style.He-Man fishin.
Any youngster can put on a wetsuit an get on a rock to fish.PFFFFFFFt
trow a 5 oz jig all yr.
that 5000Z is a big reel.is that the one u use.i know someone who has one for sale.I wonder why the tuna guys don't use the bigger one.

JPowers · 10-02-2005, 06:37 PM

NIB

If the 5000Z should break on a canal fish, It'll be the least of my problems.
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I may need help lookin' for my arm though.

Slipknot · 10-02-2005, 07:50 PM

Jim, I'll see you out there

in a few hours

NIB, find out how much he wants for it????

JPowers · 10-02-2005, 08:03 PM

Slip,

I'm thinkin' midnight ±

Pete_G · 10-02-2005, 09:18 PM

Must be a cast frame on those reels, judging by the video and Toby's breakage. They certainly look cast. It seems like a nice reel, but for what they ask for it they really should step it up a notch and go with a machined frame. Daiwa would never have to worry about a video like in Leptar's link or Toby ripping the foot off ever again. The VS frame is machined and the reel costs less...

NIB · 10-03-2005, 04:08 AM

looks like they could at least machine the foot.I recently bout a 250 VS.I am a old 706 guy.i would like to try a 300 but alot of people tell me its to big.which is why i want one.any comments would help.the size of a 706 does not bother me down to a 9' spinner.

Sea Dangles · 10-03-2005, 11:38 AM

300 has a lot of cranking power but to me seems a little overdone from the surf.Also too slow to jig the canal.Love the 200 on my nines and a 1204 but a250 is great for the fall.VS= great drags!!!

Flaptail · 10-03-2005, 12:09 PM

One kid in college and my wife's new car, (long sigh) I won't be getting one soon but wish I could. Why do I have to be responsible with my money? I would love to try one on a good stand up spinning rod for tuna. No spare money= no Saltiga for Stevie. I'm bummed.

tlapinski · 10-03-2005, 03:55 PM

I traded in my VS300 for this reel. It was a great size on a 10' rod, and I even used it in the spring on my 9' heavy duty Lami. It really is a sweet reel. My two gripes with the VS's were the slow turnaround on repairs and the fact that the drag was a bit small and weak for what I want. The Saltiga has a beast of a drag, and I'll soon know about there turn around on repairs.

NIB · 10-04-2005, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail

One kid in college and my wife's new car, (long sigh) I won't be getting one soon but wish I could. Why do I have to be responsible with my money? I would love to try one on a good stand up spinning rod for tuna. No spare money= no Saltiga for Stevie. I'm bummed.

If u start savin now u could have one by the surf shows in march.it only a hunfdred plastic swimmers.I know u have a few of them.I would guess ur like me easy to nickel an dime out of my pocket but savin to spend 600 is like pullin teeth.U just gotta have some restraint.He He He
They also make some lesser type reels in the 400$ range along the same line as the saltiga.Not as extreme though.Anyone ever use any of them.

NIB · 10-04-2005, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tlapinski

I traded in my VS300 for this reel. It was a great size on a 10' rod, and I even used it in the spring on my 9' heavy duty Lami. It really is a sweet reel. My two gripes with the VS's were the slow turnaround on repairs and the fact that the drag was a bit small and weak for what I want. The Saltiga has a beast of a drag, and I'll soon know about there turn around on repairs.

That drag nob looks like something i could cross thread pretty easily.They have some small threads on the top of the shaft.Plus I'm kinda worried bout sand with that type of reel.do u think it would look funny with tape holdin it on my rod.I am also afraid of he lack of representation in the states its almost like they don't care.will be interested to see how they work with ur problem Toby.I just don't like leapin in head first to any kinda new fangled technology.Plus I'm cheap.

Slipknot · 10-04-2005, 08:13 PM

NIB, get up here, you're missing it

Sea Dangles · 10-04-2005, 08:32 PM

stella 10000= #1 IMHO

MAC · 10-05-2005, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

300 has a lot of cranking power but to me seems a little overdone from the surf.Also too slow to jig the canal.Love the 200 on my nines and a 1204 but a250 is great for the fall.VS= great drags!!!

I agree. The 300 is slow for jigging. You have to reel like a mad man at the end of the swing to keep from losing too many jigs.

NIB · 10-05-2005, 06:45 AM

Mac sell me urs.