Metal lip help advice/help needed

[jnski]

One of the guys I work with has been extremely helpful to me and my family throughout the years, and I would like to make him a few plugs for Xmas. He recentlypurchased a boat and after reading a recent article in one of his gazillion boating magazines, he would like to try trolling plugs,swimmers, large tubes, etc. next year.
I thought it would be nice to build a few large metal lips for him, but not sure really what size/style plug or what type of lip to use for trolling on a boat. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
thanks in advance.

[ProfessorM]

I got some large metal lips from Moore's Lures 715-356-6834. I had to modify a little but got one of the styles to work. I just copied the Gibbs trolling swimmer plug, but made plug larger and made the lip I got to look like the one they use only on a larger scale. You also have to make the lip slotted for the doubled over wire, it comes with just a hole. If you know a machinist he might be able to help you out with the slot or a small round file. I will paint these plugs a mackeral pattern when my painting skills get better. Hope this helps. Paul

[zacs]

I had very good luck trolling a MAC pike this year. yellow redhead.

[vineyardblues]

pAUL,
Next time copy the Gibbs GTS 3/4 , killer plug off a boat!


And take me fishing


vb

[ProfessorM]

Peter you will have to show me if we get together this weekend. I will bring my calipers. P.

[capesams]

like these two bottom gibb's copies.

[ProfessorM]

Hey Steve you got a lending library set up yet. I got a library card. Can have back in a week. I am sure VB has a few but his are probably worth a fortune. I couldn't afford the insurance. Paul

[jnski]

Thanks for the info guys, and the pics. Very helpful.
so....I'm looking at long skinny tail end, and what looks like a pikie lip.

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by jnski

Thanks for the info guys, and the pics. Very helpful.
so....I'm looking at long skinny tail end, and what looks like a pikie lip.

And some slope to the head, a high or even central wire position, and some lead forward of midline. I'll try and post pictures latter.

[vineyardblues]

Paul I have a beater (maybe) for you ...lol
The Gibbs GTS 3 .3/4 lure is hands down one of the best "old time" trolling lures I have tested.

2 years ago we put a bucket of old lures (ccbc/gibbs/etc) and headed out on an all nighter in the boat, trolling leaded wire around the rocks at __ _ _ _ _
and we also used eelskin rig's.
The GTS 3. 3/4 out fished every lure by a lot!
Out Come was something like 23 bass ... with one around 40. On the gibbs

Other lures total around 14, Another night I will not forget, tossing glass eye
plugs over the side

vb

[NEXT2NUN]

CS could you take a pic with a ruler next to that troller, please and what type of lip is it? Thanks.

jnski Slope head Dannys troll nice also

[capesams]

front of the nose 3/4"

taper from the front of the nose to the top of the head 1 1/2" back.

body thickness 1 3/8"

starting the taper on the back to the tail end 4 1/2"

tail thickness 9/16th's

overall leight 9 7/8"

gromets from the nose to the tail,,,1 9/16"....5 3/4"

atom lip

[numbskull]

Here are two diving Dannies. They're hard to beat behind a boat.

Specs. Big / Medium
length 8" / 6 1/8"
width 1 1/2" / 1 3/16"
nose 1" / 15/16 "
tail 3/4" / 11/16"
max width 3 1/2 back / 2 1/2 back
wt 1/2" slug 3 3/4 back / 3/8" slug 2 1/4 back
fr hook 1 3/4 back / 1" back
bk hook 5 1/4" back / 3 3/4 back
wire is just (1/8) below center line on both (? use a "high lefty lip" or drill a second hole in a pike lip above the original)
wood pine (I think)
hope this helps

[numbskull]

Here are two googoo eyes. Supposedly Cinto took a 73lb bass trolling one on wire. The biggest is 8 1/4"x 1 3/8" , the smaller 6 1/8" x 1 1/4". Yes, those are screw eyes. The line tie is central. I think they are pine. If they are weighted it must be in the nose since I cant see a weight hole in the belly.

[numbskull]

Here is a smaller Gibbs and a J Plug (which is an excellent trolling plug for Stripers in its own right). The J plugs usually come with a big
single hook. There was an OnTheWater episode where they were using them at Sow and Pigs.

PM me if you want measurements.

[capesams]

those lupo danny's ?///those salmon plug's in pearl are killer's in the rip's,,,

[jnski]

wow
thanks for the pics guys!
Very helpful. I gots myself a plan.
I'll post pics when they are done.

[NEXT2NUN]

Thanks Capesams and Numbskull, good stuff !!

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by capesams

those lupo danny's ?///,,,

Yes. With the little plastic yellow eyes that fall out. But I'm a little unclear about the history of that company. Was "lupo" a different manufacturer than the original Danny with the decal/painted eyes? If so, are the plugs different in subtle ways? I know that the current Danny clones (Gibbs and Beachmaster) are weighted slightly differently than the "lupo" Dannys I own and the big ones have slight differences in the lips, but I don't have any early Dannys to compare to the plastic eye ones.

[capesams]

well! I've been told them boy's down LI. way all lived on the same street..so who made what first and who copied[borrowed] who's shape's will alway's be told differently every time you hear the story..I think I'm up to 4 different versions now.BUT I think lupo was the youngest of the group sooooo I'll let that give you hint.

[redneck24]

the surfrats are taking over

[redneck24]

the swimmer that you made for the swap would be perfect, just make it a lot longer, and double belly hooks. i made one of mine for a boat guy, and i threw a couple shots of lead in it to give it some help diving, and it ended up working great. good luck.

[jnski]

Here's the result of all your help guys. I tried them yesterday at the dock, they llok like they should troll nicely. Thanks again, and Happy Holidays!!!

[numbskull]

WOW. Great job. And what paint! I think I'm doing good and then you go and post something like this. Ouch.

[Montaukmaniac]

I like the shape on those guys. I don't own a boat, but here's a couple of trolling plugs I made for Cap that I use to mate for in Orient Point...

[stripercrazy]

nice paint

[jnski]

MM. That's kinda freaky. I have never seen those plugs of yours before, and my blue slope head has an almost identical shape to yours .
Thanks for the paint compliments guys. Believe it or not..all rattle cans. I think I have reached my creativity peak with the cans, running out of tricks. Hopefully an airbrush will be under the tree for Xmas, or soon after.

[ProfessorM]

Nice work.

[slingToad]

numbskull,

On your post with the two diving Dannies, you write:

wt 1/2" slug 3 3/4 back / 3/8" slug 2 1/4 back


My questions:

* Is that 1/2 inch of lead or 1/2 ounce of lead?

* Do these plugs wiggle, roll or wobble?

Thanks. Just making up some trolling plugs. The Rockfish are migrating through the Chesapeake Bay now. Our season officially starts 18 APR. They’ll be back up your way in no time.

Thanks for any info.

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by jnski

One of the guys I work with has been extremely helpful to me and my family throughout the years, and I would like to make him a few plugs for Xmas. He recentlypurchased a boat and after reading a recent article in one of his gazillion boating magazines, he would like to try trolling plugs,swimmers, large tubes, etc. next year.
I thought it would be nice to build a few large metal lips for him, but not sure really what size/style plug or what type of lip to use for trolling on a boat. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
thanks in advance.

Isn't there a JNSKI plug Co. out of New York? I have seen them for sale in Hyannis at The Powderhorn and New Bedford at CMS.

What's up with this?