Cinder Worms

[tattoobob]

Does anyone have any black and red/orange patterns they would like to share. if anyone is familiar with Bob Hines pattern that is what I am looking for.

thanks Bob

[Roger]

I'm not sure what Bob uses, though I don't think he's locked into one pattern. He also mostly fishes Ninigret. Below is a pic of two flies I've found consistently productive in Ninigret and Salt Pond. The top is a Dixon's Devil Worm knock-off using trimmed crystal chenille instead of light brite dubbing. The bottom is a Page Rogers pattern I think (not sure). The reason I mention locations is that different locations may require different flies.

[SAXATILUS]

If you want clam worm flies that are really going to catch fish the top 3 in my book are R.L.S Ruthless, Sparse hot orange G.P. and Ken,s Clam worm. Can Post Pics if your interested.

[tattoobob]

Yes I am very interested and would greatly appreciate it

I would be fishing a salt pond not sure witch one, but I will be doing Ninigret a couple of times at least.

[FishHawk]

What is the prime time for the worm hatch. By that I mean what month is the best. I always seem to just miss the hatch. FishHawk

[tattoobob]

SAXATILUS, I got the flies yesterday thanks and Merry X-Mass

[baldwin]

Actually,
I think that bottom one may be a Brian Owens pattern. He is in charge of the fly fishing department at North Cove Outfitters in Old Saybrook, CT. He also originated Owens' Velvet Eel. It's a sand eel pattern made of the same velvet tubing (originated as a trim on furniture upholstery) with lead barbell eyes. It's a killer at the Cape. Works fine for me, Daignault praises it also.

[ProfessorM]

I could have used that thing last year in Barnstable Harbor. That looks like the worms I was seeing. They were all over the place for about 3 nites. Quite a site seeing the fish inhale them by the thousands and not even look at anything I threw at them. Can you buy them or do you have to make yourself? Paul

[Roger]

Originally Posted by Professor Moriarty

Can you buy them or do you have to make yourself? Paul

They are pretty common so I expect that you can buy them. The Page Rogers cinder worm in red can be bought here; Cinder worm
It works best in the pink/flesh color for me though.

[Slinger]

That pink fly was a Rogers original, only hers was burnt orange. Different areas have different colored worms, from blood red to pink, I used to trade hundreds of them for equipment. There`s a place in Lincoln called RICOH that has that tubing in about15 colors in bulk for half of what a shop gets per yard. THe worms start swarming when the watewr temp hits 65, if it`s an early spring that could be the last week of April in the back coves of the salt ponds. To keep those tubing flies closer to the surface during those creeping retrieves try lashing a piece of foam to the shank and then slide the velvet tubing over it.
Slinger

[Roger]

I think you mean Ryco

[Roger]

I ran across some Bob Hines patterns the other day at Crossroads Anglers

[tattoobob]

Here is one I found, thanks for posting those others