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12-27-2005, 01:00 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Most Over Rated Rock Bands!
I was listening to the radio today and the station I had on played a bit of The Who's Quadraphenia album.....now I have never been a huge Who fan, I like some of their music but I always believed them to be over rated when held up to the bright light of other bands like the Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin.....Pete Townsend to me has to be the most over rated guitar player ever......I don't think I have ever heard him play anything other than power chords and would not know a good solo if it fell on him......the stupid windmill gimmick he always had....nothing more than smoke and mirrors along with alot of noise!
I am going to take some heat from Who fans I know so I might as well throw in The Greatful Dead as over rated.....I just never got them.....OK Slip...bring the heat!
What bands do you think were over rated?
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12-27-2005, 01:32 AM
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Nirvana....WAY Over-rated.....I think Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters are churning out some better music than they did w/ Nirvana.
Not a big Springsteen fan either....Great Song-writer.....but he needs to get someone else to sing.
I'll even agree with you about townsend being just an average Guitarist....But his talent w/ that band was as song-writer. Entwistle and Moon were the musicians of the Who. Moon could work magic on those drums and Entwhistle's Bass playing, Especially on Quadrophenia was Awesome.
And you mention them not being able to compare with a band like the Stones, as far as musicians they are over-rated too. Keith Richards is also an average Guitarist, Charlie Watts is terrible on the Drums, and Bill Wyman is an average bassist, Ron Wood is a decent guitarist but I think his better days were back when he played with The Faces. I don't think they would make it without Mick Jagger's on stage presence.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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12-27-2005, 06:22 AM
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you guys.....
should be side by side radio disc Jockey's ...oops too late ,everything has gone digital... that'll be $9.99 please just to listen...
i'd rather buy a guitar or listen to the birds sing or the wind blowing through the tree's before i pay for radio.... 
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12-27-2005, 06:29 AM
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WTF
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Led Zepplin #1 over rated band in the world.
Beatles #2 rolling stones were far better.
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12-27-2005, 08:33 AM
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Registered User
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Not sure if I consider him the worst ever, but whenever I hear Steve Miller, it's like someone raking their fingernails accross a blackboard. Just heard some this morning and I have to swicth the channels immediately. 
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The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
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12-27-2005, 08:39 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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the dead overated....  ...bite your lip larry you just can't hear them. i'll be sure to have some in my jeep next week! the most overrated band has to be the rolling stones, piss poor musicians imho.
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12-27-2005, 11:49 AM
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Retired Surfer
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Interesting question Bigfish......
Beatles...yech
Stones are better if only for the people playing the instruments
U2 a little better but voice has no range
Aerosmith ........controlled screaming...good guitar work
Who.......some pretty good stuff
Zep....everybody listens just to hear the awesome guitar rips
Jimmy Hendrix....can't sing for chit....not bad on guitar
They all had gimicks though. Outrageous behavior that garnered them admiration with the current generation.
Iron Butterfly.....one hit wonder indagadadavida....kida of sucked though...might be the worst I can think of...
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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12-27-2005, 12:44 PM
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Registered User
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the eagles - just cause of the cost of tickets
U2 - hate the music and the politics
the dead - good band but not holier than the rest
these next 3 are just because
the ramones
twisted (&%^$%$ sister
spinal tap
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12-27-2005, 01:15 PM
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Here fishy fishy
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U2 clearly not overrated but hey, that's why each of us have our own opinions and I just added mine. NOW, let's talk underrated, for me the most underrated band is the Black Crowes.
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12-27-2005, 01:23 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Iceman...I will agree with you on that and thats only because they had too much inner strife and they broke up too early...saw them open for ZZ Top and they were great!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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12-27-2005, 03:26 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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maybe i was a little too harse on the stones....larry got me all worked up!
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12-27-2005, 05:17 PM
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Wishin' for fishin'
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Limp Biskit with Fred Durst
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12-27-2005, 06:44 PM
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Nirvana definitely was age dependant, I thought. I was a freshman in high school when they first started being noticed, and trust me, they were a BIG deal to a lot of people in that age bracket.
As for the Dead, if you've only listened to studio albums it's perfectly understandable that you don't get it. You have to dig thru the vaults to get to the good stuff. AH, if you ever want really high quality GD, I've got it. My Mom and one of my uncles were tapers and had some shows even the Dead didn't have so I have lots of 1st gen digital stuff that they got through trading.
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12-27-2005, 07:21 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete_G
As for the Dead, if you've only listened to studio albums it's perfectly understandable that you don't get it. You have to dig thru the vaults to get to the good stuff. AH, if you ever want really high quality GD, I've got it. My Mom and one of my uncles were tapers and had some shows even the Dead didn't have so I have lots of 1st gen digital stuff that they got through trading.
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oh yeah  be coming down in a week or so..
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12-29-2005, 09:13 AM
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Spot Preserver
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The Dead = Most overated group ever.
The Stones a close second.
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Make America Great Again.
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12-29-2005, 08:33 PM
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umm,the juicy sweets!!!!!
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ALL BUT THE CLASH, GREAT MUSICAL GENUIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Make it idiot proof, and someone will make a better idiot.
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12-30-2005, 01:37 PM
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TB on a stick
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Quote:
Originally Posted by seabass
ALL BUT THE CLASH, GREAT MUSICAL GENUIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I love you SeaBass!!!!  My favorite band of all time!
BTW, during my recent excursion to London, I decided to make a 'pilgrimage' to where "London Calling" was conceived and recorded. Call me a nerd, if you will, but as I was walking home ("on the route of the 19 bus"), I saw one single star in the sky. I was positive it was Joe. 
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01-03-2006, 11:07 AM
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Who's Next!! Great Album
He doesn't like the Greatful Dead? I guess he really DOESN'T get it !! 
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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01-03-2006, 02:52 PM
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Registered User
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P. Townsend
Anyone who needs convincing that Pete T. of the Who IS a great Guitarist/ musician, here are the cuts to listen to:
--"Pure & Easy," Odds & Sods... --"Naked Eye," same... "Song is Over," Who's Next... "Love, Reign O'er Me," Quadrophenia... "Guitar & Pen," Who by Numbers...
TO name just a few... Enjoy! 
Last edited by LeCounts1099; 01-03-2006 at 03:16 PM..
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12-27-2005, 07:07 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
I was listening to the radio today and the station I had on played a bit of The Who's Quadraphenia album.....now I have never been a huge Who fan, I like some of their music but I always believed them to be over rated when held up to the bright light of other bands like the Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin.....Pete Townsend to me has to be the most over rated guitar player ever......I don't think I have ever heard him play anything other than power chords and would not know a good solo if it fell on him......the stupid windmill gimmick he always had....nothing more than smoke and mirrors along with alot of noise!
I am going to take some heat from Who fans I know so I might as well throw in The Greatful Dead as over rated.....I just never got them.....OK Slip...bring the heat!
What bands do you think were over rated?
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Ditto, oh throw in U2 TO
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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12-27-2005, 07:12 PM
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Registered User
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Most over rated
Rolling Stones !!!
They have had some great songs but they should have called it quits 30 years ago !!!
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LETS GO BRANDON
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12-27-2005, 07:18 PM
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Seldom Seen
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RIJimmy,
Gotta get you to an Eagles concert, I think you'll come home with a different take. U2 show this summer was one of the worst I've ever been to.
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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12-28-2005, 09:58 AM
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Springsteen, hands down. Saw him at teh fleetcenter a couple years back and could not tell when one song stopped and another started. One 3.5 hour song about jersey girls and cars...
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12-28-2005, 10:38 AM
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EVERY FISH COUNTS!!
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the doors and greatful dead all there songs sound the same
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todays schoolie is tomorrows keeper,todays keeper is tomorrows cow,practice catch and release!!!.
GOD BLESS THE NRA!!!!
ROCK AND ROLL WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!
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12-29-2005, 08:15 PM
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Retired Surfer
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Bands
Squibby......Hendrix=guitar god
Allman brothers...no one mention the Allman Brothers
I have to chime in again for the Jimmy Page work on Zeps albums, awesome.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
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12-28-2005, 11:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
I was listening to the radio today and the station I had on played a bit of The Who's Quadraphenia album.....now I have never been a huge Who fan, I like some of their music but I always believed them to be over rated when held up to the bright light of other bands like the Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin.....Pete Townsend to me has to be the most over rated guitar player ever......I don't think I have ever heard him play anything other than power chords and would not know a good solo if it fell on him......the stupid windmill gimmick he always had....nothing more than smoke and mirrors along with alot of noise!
I am going to take some heat from Who fans I know so I might as well throw in The Greatful Dead as over rated.....I just never got them.....OK Slip...bring the heat!
What bands do you think were over rated?
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Larry, as a guitar player for the last 40 years I must say that the Who's music is amongst my favorite. Townsends blending of acoustic riffs backed by power chords are thier not for the reasons one might think. True, lots of bands use the power chord as the main body of thier music. Bands in the big hair era like Motley Crue ( who I happen to love) and Ratt etc were no where near the musicians Townsend, Daltrey, Moon and Entwhistle were. The blending of the many tones both acoustic and slung low Les Paul with all knobs on ten were thier to convey the dramatic impact of the song and it's story rather than a 3 knot power chords wall of noise masking the inability and range of some supposed "super Stars". The Who's music is as technical as it comes along with Led Zepplin's. Ever try to keep up with Jimmy Page while playing along? Tough assignment for the best of them.
My fav players were Mick Ronson, Bowie's late lead man who was classically trained, Jeff Beck and PM'S fav, Frank Zappa, really a genuis when you think that he actually WROTE every note played on his albums.
Overated, The grateful dead to be sure, Lynyrd Skynyrd, AC-DC and just about all the newer bands.
To be truely great on a guitar you have to be able to capture the emotion of the song, to convey through the notes you play the hurt, joy, emptiness of the piece and make it recognizable as such when you play it.
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Why even try.........
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01-03-2006, 06:42 AM
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WTF
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
Larry, as a guitar player for the last 40 years I must say that the Who's music is amongst my favorite. Townsends blending of acoustic riffs backed by power chords are thier not for the reasons one might think. True, lots of bands use the power chord as the main body of thier music. Bands in the big hair era like Motley Crue ( who I happen to love) and Ratt etc were no where near the musicians Townsend, Daltrey, Moon and Entwhistle were. The blending of the many tones both acoustic and slung low Les Paul with all knobs on ten were thier to convey the dramatic impact of the song and it's story rather than a 3 knot power chords wall of noise masking the inability and range of some supposed "super Stars". The Who's music is as technical as it comes along with Led Zepplin's. Ever try to keep up with Jimmy Page while playing along? Tough assignment for the best of them.
My fav players were Mick Ronson, Bowie's late lead man who was classically trained, Jeff Beck and PM'S fav, Frank Zappa, really a genuis when you think that he actually WROTE every note played on his albums.
Overated, The grateful dead to be sure, Lynyrd Skynyrd, AC-DC and just about all the newer bands.
To be truely great on a guitar you have to be able to capture the emotion of the song, to convey through the notes you play the hurt, joy, emptiness of the piece and make it recognizable as such when you play it.
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as a guitar player for the last 20 years, and avid heavy metal fan, the reason for the power chord being the main structure of the song is not a talent issue, its heavy metal, what you want beautiful melodic chords, no, we want fast grinding loud metal. and as for capturing emotion of a song, i fall asleep when i hear the who, you want emotion, lets talk about dimebag darrell (RIP) i want to rip the steering wheel out of my car everytime i hear one of his songs. kerry king, i get so worked up by his riffs that i want to smash my whole car with a baseball bat! now thats emotion  i guess what i am getting at is the fact that metal is not a talent issue, ever tried to play a pantera song? probably not, try it sometime.
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01-03-2006, 10:07 AM
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I can't say thses bands are overrated.....probably all great musicians but i change the station when they come on.....
U2, Greenday,Pink Floyd, and Aerosmith. WAY OVERPLAYED........liked some songs until they played them A gazillion times and ruined it for me.
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12-28-2005, 03:26 PM
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Quote:
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Pete Townsend to me has to be the most over rated guitar player ever......
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its his style...its music not sports....
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12-28-2005, 03:30 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Slingah...shut up! He sucks! .<period
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