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12-27-2005, 04:40 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South Shore Ma.
Posts: 86
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Plug Help
Hello Guys ,
I got a Plug Building Kit from NJ Tackle . I've never built a lure before so I'm alittle lost . What kind of paint and sealer do I use ? Whats the best way to apply the paint/sealer ? Any help would be great , I got Kit A-40.
Thanks
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12-27-2005, 05:21 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Here is what I've gleaned from this site in the past couple of months.
Val-Oil/Turp 60/40 mix to seal (soak 1 minute for softwoods)
Let dry 24 hours at least, days is better.
Sand lightly with 220
Prime with Zissner Cover All (gold spray can)
Dry 24 hours, then sand with 150 or 220 (can repeat prime if desired). Wipe clean.
Paint with Krylon, wet to wet (5-10 minutes between colors), or with Createx if you've got an air brush. Don't mix types of paint (i.e., no oil base enamel over waterbase, or lacquer over enamel).
Wait 24 hours, then clearcoat with krylon clear.
Wait 7+ days, scuff sand with 400, then epoxy coat with Enviorntex or system 3.
Let dry, then trade to someone else so you get something good before the finish comes off.
Hope this helps.
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12-27-2005, 06:55 PM
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Tackle Junkie
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Scotts Valley , California
Posts: 278
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
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Let dry, then trade to someone else so you get something good before the finish comes off.
Hope this helps.
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Too funny .

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12-27-2005, 07:20 PM
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Registered Grandpa
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
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Ditto Kadywampus. 
Geez NS, your way to concise and complete with your instuctions. Your gonna make these guys commercial builders in a day. 
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" Choose Life "
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12-27-2005, 09:12 PM
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Guest
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 169
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Is the Val oil Turp a mixture of Turpentine and Val Oil?
What other types of sealers are there
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12-28-2005, 01:44 AM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Here is what I've gleaned from this site in the past couple of months.
Val-Oil/Turp 60/40 mix to seal (soak 1 minute for softwoods)
Let dry 24 hours at least, days is better.
Sand lightly with 220
Prime with Zissner Cover All (gold spray can)
Dry 24 hours, then sand with 150 or 220 (can repeat prime if desired). Wipe clean.
Paint with Krylon, wet to wet (5-10 minutes between colors), or with Createx if you've got an air brush. Don't mix types of paint (i.e., no oil base enamel over waterbase, or lacquer over enamel).
Wait 24 hours, then clearcoat with krylon clear.
Wait 7+ days, scuff sand with 400, then epoxy coat with Enviorntex or system 3.
Let dry, then trade to someone else so you get something good before the finish comes off.
Hope this helps.
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take this with a grain of salt,
because it's only 1/2 right...
24 hrs to clear? thats why it peels.
1 week to topcoat? ZZZzzzzz 
i'll do it in 15 minutes
Last edited by thefishingfreak; 12-28-2005 at 01:51 AM..
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12-28-2005, 07:09 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thefishingfreak
take this with a grain of salt,
because it's only 1/2 right...
24 hrs to clear? thats why it peels.
1 week to topcoat? ZZZzzzzz 
i'll do it in 15 minutes
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Well, 1/2 right is about my norm, and I've been wondering about that wait to clear coat bit if the color coats are also Krylon, but I think the guy might run into problems if he tries to epoxy over fresh paint, or puts Krylon over wet Createx, though I can't honestly say I've tried either.
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12-28-2005, 07:18 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
Posts: 8,642
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NS, you're on the right track. you can safely epoxy over krylon in 24 hrs, no clear or scuff coat in between. keep plug and hands clean.
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12-28-2005, 09:37 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thefishingfreak
take this with a grain of salt,
because it's only 1/2 right...
24 hrs to clear? thats why it peels.
1 week to topcoat? ZZZzzzzz 
i'll do it in 15 minutes
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But Mike, your in the auto-body business so it only stands to reason you might know a better way. NS isn't but is learning the "secrets" very well that you have known for years and learned somewhere along the line yourself. Give it a little slack here please. Sound a little harsh and I know that's not how you are.
Got my new chisel set and the birds are ready to fly.
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Why even try.........
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12-27-2005, 09:42 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Delaware Co., PA
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Sportyguy...Thats a whole can of worms there. There are many, each have their advantages and disadvantages.
TSPS, I know I may take alot of flack for this but if you want to speed through the process on your first (probably of many) plugs you could skip the sealer and start with a spray primer. Keep in mind that skipping the sealer may reduce the life of a plug. I dont know what wood that kit is turned from. Start with a simple paint scheme and build the kit. Keep it simple. You'll learn alot in a short time, especially if you hang around here.
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12-27-2005, 09:47 PM
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Tackle Junkie
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Scotts Valley , California
Posts: 278
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It's my advise that you put the plug down and back away slowly , it's not too late to save yourself . 
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12-27-2005, 09:50 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Delaware Co., PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kadywampus
It's my advise that you put the plug down and back away slowly , it's not too late to save yourself . 
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truer words were never spoken
Now send me the kit and save yourself 
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12-27-2005, 09:54 PM
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Guest
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 169
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TSPS
I say you finish the kit and when you're all done Send it to me.
As the Master of Plug Hp'ing says "I have no plugs" 
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12-28-2005, 09:43 AM
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Plug Paladin
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Jackson, N.J.
Posts: 1,132
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlukinUki
Sportyguy...Thats a whole can of worms there. There are many, each have their advantages and disadvantages.
TSPS, I know I may take alot of flack for this but if you want to speed through the process on your first (probably of many) plugs you could skip the sealer and start with a spray primer. Keep in mind that skipping the sealer may reduce the life of a plug. I dont know what wood that kit is turned from. Start with a simple paint scheme and build the kit. Keep it simple. You'll learn alot in a short time, especially if you hang around here.
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Skipping the sealler will have his paint peeling off after the 2nd or 3rd time he uses the plug. Most newebies make the mistake of rushing and not letting every layer dry.
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12-28-2005, 10:25 AM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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yes sorry,, don't mean to be harsh.
too late last night

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12-28-2005, 12:21 PM
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Dave's Guide Service
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 7,557
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Bud, paint it and swim it test it, then move on to how to make it catch fish, all the other stuff will come in time
perty plugs that dont swim = /kill
learn the basics then ho plug bodys 
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Pro Tool Club....
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12-28-2005, 12:58 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South Shore Ma.
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Thanks Very Much , for the help . but now I am scared  with my luck it will either scar the fish of or make them laugh their fins off.

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12-28-2005, 02:10 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Delaware Co., PA
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Paint it, beat it, make (or ho) more 
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