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Raven · 10-02-2006, 08:25 PM

thats what ya need sitting in your garage
when ya have a friggan kidney stone...

talk about PAIN....
i aged a whole year in a single weekend.

i was x-rayed ,cat scanned ,examined and prescribed.

luckilly no cats ..not even kittens were found inside me.

i have been hit by a car...thrown 200 feet from my car,
stung by a hundred hornets,tumbled down a mountain
with a hot tail pipe of a motorcycle burning me all the way,
smashed by a landslide of rocks....bitten by fire ants
you name it...

and nothing compares to this pain.... nothing..
those of you who have had one ...know exactly what
i'm talking about... because it's off the scale....

it's a man's version of having a baby.... oh- my- god!...

i was almost tearing up the leather on the hospital bed
until they finally got the friggan I.V. in me and injected narcotics...
what an experience that is....

i am so wiped out..... it 's rediculous .....

jklett · 10-02-2006, 09:00 PM

My 10 year old daughter is dealing with one. She spent 3 days in the hospital to get a tube placed in her kidney to drain it out(stone is blocking the tube between her kidney and her bladder). She had a sonic shock treatment Friday to try and break it up, and we're waithing for it to pass. She doesn't seem to be in much pain(yet) but I know what's coming. I really feel for you. I wouldn't wish these things on anybody.

tattoobob · 10-02-2006, 09:45 PM

My wife just went thru it and still is having problems, It happened the Friday I left for Cuttyhunk the 8th of Sept. and there was no way for me to get home and help. she told me to stay and fish what a trooper

Karl F · 10-02-2006, 09:51 PM

I feel your pain.. try it in conjunction with a bout of Acute Diviticulitis... double whammy..almost a week in hell this past winter...
Tony S came and saw me every day.. he told me later he thought I was gonna die..just from the way I looked.. no fun...put as my Mom would say.. this too, shall pass...

Diamond Tackle · 10-02-2006, 11:31 PM

I feel yer pain.
I passed what they called "gravel" quite a few years back. I will never forget that all nighter as long as I live. Would not wish it on anyone.Thank god for the demerol back then to help with the renal colic or acute spasms or whatever they called them, but they wouldnt give me the stuff til all the xrays came back, which seemed like forever.

Feel better Raven. You survived one of the most severe pains known to humans. It builds charachter.

Raven · 10-03-2006, 03:29 AM

i'm back in pain again....dammit...will get more percasets by 8 am... just took some oxycodiene's ...holding an ice pack to my belly....

kidney stones are a precipitate of calcium...so to prevent the stones from happening you need to alter your bodies ph back to slightly acidic... (as they form when your ph is too alkaline)with apple cider vinegar, honey and water or mixed with welches grape juice.
1 tablespoon of each.... mixed together then mix it with water or the grape juice....which will help disolve the stone...as it returns the calcium (stone) back into solution. i'm drinking it now.

wheresmy50 · 10-03-2006, 07:38 AM

I'm not a doctor, but I do work in the pharma industry. There are drugs waaaay more powerful than oxycodone/tylenol (percoset) - maybe your doctor could help you out a little?

Good luck.

teaser · 10-03-2006, 07:54 AM

Raven,

I get kidney stones every year, I get a script of "Tramadol" from my doc, pain is gone in an hour and no side effets.

Hell you can even go back fishing and wait for the stone to pass.

I wasn't that lucky this year though, the doc had to go get the stone ... and guess where they go in to get it? OOOWWWWWW!!!!!

Raven · 10-03-2006, 08:09 AM

again for four hours this mornin til the hydrocodone finally kicked in....

talk about climbing the walls literally... but all of these nasty narcotics make me have nausea so i am also takin promethazine to control the urge to be ill from the meds... but at least i'm able to get some relief now. otherwise it's pure hell....

Raven · 10-03-2006, 08:19 AM

every year! wow... thats not good... my stone is small...3 centimeters i think the cat-scan revealed according to the hospital doc...

i could go fishin today but i'm too incapacitated (woosey) to drive...

i'll talk to my primary physcian about that prescription and thanks for the tip. these drugs suck but at least they're workin...phew!

thanks for the support everyone.... very much appreciated.

afterhours · 10-03-2006, 08:20 AM

here's wishing ya well shaman!

Bronko · 10-03-2006, 08:28 AM

i have been hit by a car...thrown 200 feet from my car,
stung by a hundred hornets,tumbled down a mountain
with a hot tail pipe of a motorcycle burning me all the way,
smashed by a landslide of rocks....bitten by fire ants
you name it...

-Note to self. Never stand next to Raven.

BottomBouncer · 10-03-2006, 10:16 AM

Hopefully you never need back surgery. Stones suck and are painful but nothing compares to disk issues in your back. Pass that stone and get back to living!

justplugit · 10-03-2006, 02:40 PM

Hope ya feel betta soon Rav, you've had a tough year.

Your luck is about to change.

piemma · 10-03-2006, 03:44 PM

Raven;
hang in. It will get better. I speak from experience. Shot 3 different times in Nam in 66/67. Broken back in 77.
Open heart Quad bypass in 2003 and now this Bladder cancer with Chemo to boot.

"If it doesn't kill you, it will make you stronger"

Raven · 10-03-2006, 04:54 PM

see....i would never have known about
a different prescription like tramadol
if not for S-B members....

i hope to be fishin by the weekend....
->thats my goal...

wow Paul....3 times shot....
you ought to know....

i like getting stronger....

gone fishin · 10-03-2006, 10:54 PM

Now with all the narcs you will not be able to take a healthy dump for a week, grab some stool softeners. I feel for ya been there done that

striprman · 10-05-2006, 01:59 AM

I brought my kids friend to the hospital with that about a year ago. I thought he was going to die in my car.

PaulS · 10-05-2006, 07:43 AM

cranberry juice is bad for kidney stones - its good for urinary track infections. Up your water intake, which they say is the most important thing.

Van · 10-05-2006, 09:34 AM

Raven:

Thats sucks BIG TIME.

I had the same in the spring. I was driving home from work and it hit like a freight train. I nearly did'nt make it to the driveway. Went to the ER and they took me right in, I guess my screaming in the waiting room was upsetting the other people !!!!! I didn't have a clue what it was. I thought I was going to friggin die it hurt so bad. Then it sucked when i realized I wasn't going to die and had to live with the pain. The IV pain meds were great, then home with Percocets helped, but my whole life came to a halt until it was over.

Lasted for about 2 weeks, I even had to have a "procedure" to remove it, but I think it had passed by then. He did it anyway to make sure there weren't more in there. OUCH !!!!!

Once it passed within a day I felt great. I was completely back to normal.
It was like a light switch going on and off.

Get well soon buddy.....

Doc (Urologist) told me there was no reason for it happening and no way to prevent it from happening again.
No dietary changes no nuthin. I don't know. I don't care as long as I NEVER get one again.

Raven · 10-05-2006, 05:12 PM

Doc (Urologist) told me there was no reason for it happening and no way to prevent it from happening again.
No dietary changes no nuthin. I don't know. I don't care as long as I NEVER get one again.

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when i spoke to the attending doc at the hospital about PH and how
calcium goes into a precipitate in an akaline medium she really had no concept of the whole idea which i found to be startling. and then i said in an sightly acid medium the one thats best for the body a precipitate (read calcium stone) will go back into a solution....she was equally clueless.

i am now temporarilly a fruitarian and feeling much better fast....
even though i have a long road ahead of me.... for sure.

Raven · 10-05-2006, 05:16 PM

i have been drinking carrot juice instead and distilled 100% aloe vera liquid

Raven · 10-05-2006, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS

cranberry juice is bad for kidney stones - its good for urinary track infections. Up your water intake, which they say is the most important thing.

the Raven is on the hunt...the game is afoot Watson

Orange juice, researchers found, boosted the levels of citrate in the urine and reduced the crystallization of uric acid and calcium oxalate — the most frequently found ingredient in kidney stones.

But lemonade did not increase the levels of citrate, an important acid neutralizer and inhibitor of kidney stone formation.

"One reason might be the different constituents of various beverages," Dr. Odvina said.

For instance, the citrate in orange and grapefruit juice is accompanied by a potassium ion while the citrate in lemonade and cranberry juice is accompanied by a hydrogen ion. Ions of hydrogen, but not potassium, counteract the beneficial effects of the high citrate content.

Raven · 10-05-2006, 07:55 PM

more info:

Your chance of developing another stone is greatly reduced if you:

drink plenty of fluid - at least two litres daily (water is readily available, no prescription needed, very cheap)
take care not to eat too much calcium. You should eat no more than 300 (big cup)ml of milk + 50 g of cheese + either an ice cream or ½ cup of yogurt every day
watch your oxalate intake. You should eat no more than one serving of rhubarb + six slices of beetroot + two servings of either silverbeet, spinach or puha every day
avoid excessive salt intake as it increases urine calcium excretion
eat meat in moderation. Meat is the most important cause of increased calcium and uric acid excretion. Excessive intake (very common amongst men) should be avoided
dietary assessment and modification must be done by a dietician. People must understand the reasons for the dietary advice and be encouraged to make a life long commitment
drugs may be advised for specific conditions.

justplugit · 10-05-2006, 08:34 PM

Quote:

=Raven
[*]watch your oxalate intake. You should eat no more than one serving of rhubarb + six slices of beetroot + two servings of either silverbeet, spinach or puha every day

Rav, no way am i given up my puha.

jklett · 10-12-2006, 08:37 PM

Lithotripsy only has a 70% chance of working unless the stone is still in your kidney, then it's almost 100% effective. I have to bring my kid in for another x-ray to see if it's moved at all since last week. It hadn't a week after her first treatment, and it looks like she'll need a second shock. The stone is in her ureter and blocking the flow from her kidney so she has a nephrostomy bag in place to drain it. I'm not trying to hijack your post, I'm just letting you know that we're going through the same thing here and I'm pulling for you to get through this quickly as I can see how it's effecting my daughter and nobody should have to go through that kind of pain for that long. Good luck and a speedy recovery to you.

teaser · 10-12-2006, 10:38 PM

Get her some tramadol too. I think Raven's doing better with it, what do ya think Raven ... working okay?

Raven · 10-16-2006, 05:32 AM

and it got me off the damned percasets....

which for me<- anyways .....is like being stumbling drunk...

i don't like them,(percs) but they are preferable to the pain...

funny thing ..tramadol is a pain killer...
but it doesn't act like a narcotic does. (correction) i'm still learning.

and thanks jklett .... yeah, the stone is still in my kidney,,,
first time (last april was an overnight affair) i had no idea what it was
this time it was a week long battle....

Raven · 10-16-2006, 05:37 AM

he gives me this collaspsing funnel thingy with a filter screen
in the bottom.....right...

for collecting a passing stone... for examination later...

what a pure piece of junk....it falls apart ...

Raven · 10-16-2006, 05:43 AM

jklett ....but your kiddo has to drop chocolate... completely

if shes a stone former....