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Old 11-10-2006, 08:08 PM   #1
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#1 ?

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Old 11-10-2006, 08:17 PM   #2
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:32 PM   #3
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Learn the language or get the %$%$%$%$ out.

I started a new job 2 months ago and there's this guy there that's been in this country for 25 years and he refuses to learn to read and write in English and still only speaks in broken English. And yet he gets pissed when I got promoted over him already
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:59 PM   #4
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Boy ..That really pisses me off also...fR&*^%%ing english!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 11-10-2006, 10:14 PM   #5
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Forget one, why can't I talk to a human being?

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Old 11-11-2006, 07:29 AM   #6
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When I had power problems and called NStar, I never had to say a word just push the right #s. Freaky.

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Old 11-11-2006, 12:00 PM   #7
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Ya!

Do you know that the court system in Massachusetts has on call language specialist that can speak about 200 diffferent tongues.



Learn english, you live here now.



Just stopped another commercial vehicle with an unlicensed person driving it, who cames from a country south of the equator that specializes in carnivals.

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Old 11-11-2006, 12:20 PM   #8
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Learn english, you live here now.
Are they allowed any time to learn it or are they expected to know it fluently as soon as they cross the border. I know everybodies family has someone that came to this country and had to learn english, whether it be from Italy, Greece, or some other place. and I guarentee they didn't speak it perfectly within hours of reaching Ellis island....it takes time.

it takes time to learn it and a lot of people do learn it over time. How about a little patience.

I work with plenty of Spanish people that struggle with the english language but they try every day to learn it. They come to work every day and work hard. a lot of them become citizens.

This speak english or get out of my country crap gets real old......

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Old 11-11-2006, 07:22 PM   #9
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What I see

is that people who get into trouble learn to use the language barrier to thier advantage. When they get to court they'll tell whoever listens they did not understand anything the officer said, but in the corridor they'll talk to thier attorney in english no problem. At work we go out of our way to get portugese and spanish speaking interpreters into the station to help out. We have several in twon that volunteer thier time, which is nice.

I am not being impatient. As far as spanish or portugese speaking person they all know some english. But some people just don't bother. I have numerous spanish courses and can ask most of the questions I need to have answered in spanish. Its a riot when after 10 or 20 minutes in the station with a person who is under arrest and talking spanish on the phone learns I speak spanish a little when I start asking him the booking questions. They generally start speaking english to you then. The guy I dealt with driving the truck this afternoon has been here three years. His wife has been here the same. She is licensed, he isn't. I just ticketed him and had her drive saving them the tow. When he found out I was going to go easy on him he opened right up.

When you are driving a vehicle that you have to have a CDL, commercial driver's license, it is the law that you must speak english, or you can be arrested. That includes, driving small buses that you need a class c license for that seat 16 or more people including the driver, a class B license for driving a truck over 26,000 pounds GVWR, or a class A license license. That has been the law since 1983. Only have run into one person who didn't speak english. Driving a TT from Mexico to Boston, loaded with NAFTA tv's.

Dadfisherman, I don't want you to think I don't have any patience, I do and exhibit it every day on the job and in private. But I firmly believe that once you made the decision to live here you should completely join the party.

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Old 11-12-2006, 01:57 AM   #10
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Dadfisherman, I don't want you to think I don't have any patience, I do and exhibit it every day on the job and in private. But I firmly believe that once you made the decision to live here you should completely join the party.
I understand. Its just that I've seen people immediately treat someone like less of of person because they don't speak perfect english and I think that some people don't realize that there grandfathers and such that came toi this country probably took years to learn the language. just think how they would feel if there grandfathers were immediatly dismissed just because they hadn't mastered the language yet.


I'm glad to hear you have that patience....I think more people should have it too. I also believe that people should learn the language when they get here .....and just like anything else......the 10% percent that do it wrong screw it up for the 90% that really try and do it right. But most of them try and lots of the time nobody gives them credit for trying.

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Old 11-12-2006, 10:44 AM   #11
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Rules for the phone.

How ALL business phones SHOULD be answered!

GOOD MORNING,

WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Press "1" for English.

Press "2" to disconnect until you learn to speak English

You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a
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