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03-08-2007, 08:57 PM
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Do you let your kids connect with "myspace.com"?
I have a network with a bunch of machines but they all go thru a stand along proxy server that is the main firewall does virus scanning and content filtering and handles all the printers and alike. It works very well and I don't have to keep that close of an eye on what my kids are looking at on their machines..The server will send me an e-mail and tell me if they attempet to go to a non-suitable site. It is a subscription thing and I have had it for a number of years and I concur with its lists and you have a lot of control of topics allowed and not allowed ( it self updats every 4 hours so it stays current as well).
Anyway, my 14 year old is asking me to "unlock" myspace.com so he can create a place there. I told him I am not really crazy about the site and I am not going to rush to allow software to let it thru. I think his friend just called and said...you got to take a look at soandsos myspace site because he hung up the phone and bolted to his machine.
(I checked myspace out (I have super user priv) and to me it is sort of scummy. Some sites and are fine some clever but some are boarderline and not something I want my kid spend a lot of time gawking at. (sort of like me with sb.com  )
Anyway, do you let your kids do this thing? He claims all the kids do it and I am I being too restrictive. I told him well...its my network and I say no. But then I said I would talk it over with your mother but don't hold your breath, she is more restrictive then I am.
It seems like an intro to on-line adult dating sites to me. But I could be wrong...
I see my server messages building... here is what one looks like:
This is an automated WEB FILTER alert message.
At Thu Mar 08 20:17:42 2007, the client machine "90.0.0.4" was blocked from connecting to www.myspace.com:80/.
This URL is blocked because the category Adult/Mature Content is configured as a restricted category.
Last edited by Mr. Sandman; 03-08-2007 at 09:08 PM..
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03-08-2007, 09:01 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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no
15 and 12
and we just say no
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03-08-2007, 09:06 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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12 and 14 year old here.....I caught one of them going on it and they were told if I see them on it they will lose all computer privelages! Nothing good going on in MySpace!!!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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03-08-2007, 09:32 PM
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What was that!?!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Kingston, NH
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i get in touch with people from years ago because of myspace...i think its great for that. that said i would not let my kid sign up.
18+
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03-08-2007, 09:35 PM
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Location: Seekonk
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Myspace is a great way to get in touch with old friends, and keep in touch with current ones. But not for the younger kids, I'd say 17 an over for myspace. Its quite addicting!
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03-08-2007, 09:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: PHX AZ its a DRY HEAT 122
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23,19,15 sadly all do. wife thinks they can handle it and still be ok. i think your right, keep em off it. the pics, language,influances, etc = BAD
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03-08-2007, 10:06 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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Hell NO!!!!! Tore my 14 yr old twins' sites to shreds last year. Changed the passwords. Can't delete it as it's content is owned by myspace as soon as they hit the enter button. Daughter had signed on as an 18 yr old.... And you should see what some of their friends write!!!!!(I called one kid's parents and strongly urged them to review their child's site.) For a hundred bucks a perv can access all the kid's sites! The kids will tell you that "only my friends can see it." But it's a pyramid, so friends of friends, of friends, etc. There is no control, no positives for children, and plenty of bad stories of pervs contacting youngsters
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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03-08-2007, 10:07 PM
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marshfield, MA
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not for kids...period...
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03-08-2007, 10:38 PM
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Location: Seekonk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nightfighter
Hell NO!!!!! Tore my 14 yr old twins' sites to shreds last year. Changed the passwords. Can't delete it as it's content is owned by myspace as soon as they hit the enter button. Daughter had signed on as an 18 yr old.... And you should see what some of their friends write!!!!!(I called one kid's parents and strongly urged them to review their child's site.) For a hundred bucks a perv can access all the kid's sites! The kids will tell you that "only my friends can see it." But it's a pyramid, so friends of friends, of friends, etc. There is no control, no positives for children, and plenty of bad stories of pervs contacting youngsters
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I agree its not for kids, but the sites can be set to "private" so only people you know you can view it, they need to ask for your permission first before the can view your site. If used the right way, its fine. But kids wont use it the right way thats for sure! They dont see the dangers involved if not used properly. If thier site is not set as "private" Everyone on myspace can view everything on thier site. Kids dont understand that!
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03-08-2007, 10:40 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
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I'd let my kids have access to MySpace.com before they had access to SkipN.
-spence
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03-08-2007, 10:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
I'd let my kids have access to MySpace.com before they had access to SkipN.
-spence
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03-08-2007, 11:24 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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Emphatically no - my son is not old enough yet but with all the stuff I see at school - ain't happenin' .
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
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03-08-2007, 11:38 PM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 7,181
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Say No to My Space 
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03-09-2007, 06:00 AM
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Scuttlebutt
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Westport,MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip N
Myspace is a great way to get in touch with old friends, and keep in touch with current ones. But not for the younger kids, I'd say 17 an over for myspace. Its quite addicting!
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I agree, i've seen some of these 13 year olds on there pretending to be 16 or 17 and they're posting these s--tish and wh--eish pictures, i honestly can't stand it.. i use it mainly to keep in touch with friends, and during the summer to tell the people that work with me and my mom [she owns her own landscaping business and a few of my friends work] are working. I do agree its addicting but its to the point where I don't care about myspace, and go on maybe once a day compared to the 6 times a day.
deffinitely i would understand 18+, i'd appreciate it more.
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03-09-2007, 07:11 AM
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DDG-51
Join Date: Mar 2002
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I agree with all the NO's. But your kid is a teenager and if his friend has access to the site, he'll most likely create an account there. I know when I was a kid, the word 'NO' just meant find a way around it.
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03-09-2007, 07:25 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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3 and 5 so not an issue yet. lol
When they start surfing the web I have no idea what I'm going to do....I'll have a plan before then. (I hope)
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03-09-2007, 07:39 AM
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What was that!?!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Kingston, NH
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i dont' get how its addicting... its like checking my email? what am i missing?
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03-09-2007, 08:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishsmith
I agree with all the NO's. But your kid is a teenager and if his friend has access to the site, he'll most likely create an account there. I know when I was a kid, the word 'NO' just meant find a way around it.
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Hmmmm. I'll check into this. 
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03-09-2007, 09:01 AM
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Canal Junkie
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Raynham
Posts: 1,678
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myspace is so 2006....
it will just be something new in a few months.
if not sooner..
however, i find it to be a great way to spy on and blackmail my teenage sister.. Sure... go ahead and post the pictures of you doing a kegstand.... it just means you WILL be babysitting for me next week...
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aim: SaltedBrian
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03-09-2007, 09:17 AM
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9 and 12 no freakin way .
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03-09-2007, 09:42 AM
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Super Moderator
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Location: Georgetown MA
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10 and 13 and not a friggin chance....nothing good happens on myspace. If you want to keep in touch with your friends talk to them at school or pick up the phone.
and all their internet access in the house is done right at the kitchen table where we can see it.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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03-09-2007, 10:35 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Brewster, Cape Cod
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12 and 14 yr old girls...HELL NO!!
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03-09-2007, 10:43 AM
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Location: S. Yarmouth, MA
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11 year old has no interest in anything but IM'ming. We caught our 17 year old and found links to a bunch of her friends and shutdown her operation. That being said, I'm not sure. She's smart and leaves nothing up and running when she leaves her PC. Then again, she knows she has an overprotective parent who will pull the plug on her PC permanently if I were to audit her PC and find something.
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03-09-2007, 11:32 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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From what I see in a School District - no way, nexopia is even worse..
Sites to check:
http://www.noslang.com/top20.php
When I find my notes I'll add some more.
I was thinking before getting my layoff notice about what would it take to offer a service for parents to maintain their home networks for appropriate content / activities - perhaps I'll need to revisit this 
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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03-09-2007, 11:41 AM
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Registered User
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Location: S. Yarmouth, MA
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John, that's a very good idea. We frequencly get flyers from school cautioning againse letting kids use myspace, pointing out the potential dangers that kids don't realize. I'd be willing to bet if those flyers had something on them like, "If you are unsure of your child's use or would like to retain the services of a professional who can audit your child's use of or prevent access to sewrvices like myspace.com, contact Big Bad John at ...."
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03-09-2007, 11:41 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: South Shore
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My girls are 12 & 8, myspace is blocked. Our 12 y.o. got in trouble for acting up on IM, we took it away for two weeks and she hasn't asked for it back yet and that was about 6 mos ago.
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03-09-2007, 11:57 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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We had a meeting once at the middle school where we invited some people very involved with these issues, a Principal from another district, a task force of island police officers that have extra training for this kind of problems. Notices went out to parents and about 8 parents showed. Their were more people involved with putting the presentation together than there was targetted audience - a shame...
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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03-09-2007, 02:59 PM
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Which Way Did They Go
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Blackstone, MA
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No...Facebook.com is MUCH safer and still is social networking.....
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"You make a living by what you get. You make a life by what you give"
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03-09-2007, 06:02 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
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My kids are in their mid 20s so threats won't work.  I sometimes check out what my neices and nephews are doing and rat them out.  They think that their parents are clairvoyant or something..
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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03-09-2007, 06:49 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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There are software programs which allow you to see every key stroke, which allows you to not only see where the kids have been on the web, but you can also replicate their IM messages, both sent and received. My daughter says that is an invasion of privacy... I say when she hits 'send', it's out there for anyone who has the technology to get it.
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