Suggestions for a conventional rod - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

tattoobob · 12-29-2007, 08:13 PM

I just picked up a nice Abu big game 7000 and want to pair it with a 10 foot rod, I will be throwing plugs, tins, maybe even eels 1 to 3.5 oz I would like one rod to do it all. any suggestions would be great

I have been using spinning for all my saltwater fishing but I am not new to baitcasters it is all I used to use in fresh water before I switched to saltwater fishing.

Thanx Bob

MikeToole · 12-29-2007, 08:59 PM

I have a custom Pac Bay 1208 that I use for your listed purposes with the same reel. Overall it has worked out very well.

gone fishin · 12-29-2007, 09:27 PM

Bob - before you buy, we have to get together. I have 5 rods that you can try with that reel. You hve seen me use at least two of them.

tattoobob · 12-29-2007, 10:01 PM

Yes Don we are do for coffee and some fat chewing anyways

missing link · 12-29-2007, 10:05 PM

I use a Tica 10' light and can handle anything change the tip guide for use with braid it's the UEHA style
if you want FLASH go witrh the big names but you won't be dissapointed with this rod, I have at least 10 tica rods for all applications
just my O2
Link
ps fancy wraps and flaslh looks good but as far as a durable rod for everyday use
like I say with my SEMI The shine don't pay the fine the chrome don't get you home but my stainless steel has SEX appeal
link

stripadan · 12-30-2007, 12:02 AM

Bob,
Like Link said, everyone I've talked to likes the Tica lineup. I use Tsunami rods. Lots of bang for the buck. Will fish side by side with my St. Croix and Loomis rods. Sorry, I can't stand Lami, so I can't compare. That will get a lot of sneers around here, but I've tried a few and don't like them.

Is the reel the narrow or wide spool? I like the wide spool for throwing 3 oz. plus, not as good for lighter weights. The narrow is better for the range you specified imo. Try to put the reel on as many rods as possible to try out. My all around rod is a 10' Tsunami conventional with 7000 HSN. It used to be a 10' St. Croix with 9" cut off tip and 6500 Abu with sweet spot around 2 oz. and good to about 3 oz. The Tsunami is more comfortable on the top end with sweet spot around 2 1/2 oz. but good up to 4 oz.

ridler72 · 12-30-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gone fishin

Bob - before you buy, we have to get together. I have 5 rods that you can try with that reel. You hve seen me use at least two of them.

Hey Don.

keeperreaper · 12-30-2007, 05:23 PM

1205 is my go to rod for eeling and 2 oz or larger plugs.

tattoobob · 12-30-2007, 05:52 PM

THanks everyone for the advice, I was thinking the Lami 1205 or the 1201m before I posted, I am going to spool up the reel and try some rods with it and see what I like, I will most likely be using 2 to 2.5 oz needles, 2.5 to 3.5 pencils, and eels.

gone fishin · 12-30-2007, 05:44 PM

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Hey Don.

Hi Jeff - Happy New Year!

Surfpirate · 12-30-2007, 12:20 AM

I live and die with the Arra 1205C, never leave home without it and either a 6500 mag elite or 7000 big game (black)

numbskull · 12-30-2007, 08:37 AM

I use a 1205 conventional (with Newell 229 or Calcutta TE 400) for plugging and like it very much. More of a 2-4oz rod, with lots of lifting power to handle decent fish in rocks/current. Throwing 1 oz, particularly off a big reel like a 7000, is not its thing. You'd do better in that range with a 1081L/6500 setup. I do not have any experience with the 1204 or 1201M to compare, though I have a 10' Kennedy Fisher and I much prefer the 1205. If you are near the Falmouth area and want to cast it, just pm me.

MAC · 12-30-2007, 09:07 AM

1205

The rainshadow SU 1208 is a versatile stick too.

Though 1 oz will be on the light side with with either stick being conventional.

JohnR · 12-30-2007, 09:48 AM

1205, light stuff ain't happening

1201m

Grampy · 12-30-2007, 12:34 PM

Bob,

I would suggest the Lamiglas. I find all my Lami's are my go to rods even over my St Croix Avid Surfs and Ben Doer's. My ABU Big Game and ABU 7000ci3 are on my Lamiglas rods

I'd also suggest that any attempt at throwing 1 oz. will be difficult on your conventional.

If you are looking at something that's less money, but still a good value, look at a Tica Dolphin TC3 as they are around $100.00

Gunpowder · 12-30-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MAC

The rainshadow SU 1208 is a versatile stick too.

Though 1 oz will be on the light side with with either stick being conventional.

thats wat i got for christmas... cant wait to use it

Ron A · 12-30-2007, 10:37 PM

Its a personal choice of what designed rod action you want. The XRA 1205 10' was specifically designed to achieve many surfcasting tasks well, such as jigging, plugging,live eeling,live lining and bottom fishing with bait. It is very easy to handle, especially for a new surfcaster. The rod has a category of an all around rod which is pleasing to most ardent surfcasters. This is the reason why some surfcasters like the performance and want to own one. This new year we are offering the 1205 in a factory conventional model along with the existing spinning model.

wheresmy50 · 01-02-2008, 01:23 PM

I have 2 7000s both on Tica heavy conventional rods with 65lb sufix braid. Lami-purists may turn up their collective noses at these rods, but they really do work well. I have several Lamis and I'm very happy with these two. Plus being two-piece makes them pickup friendly.

I added 4oz of weight to each of the butts, and the rods balance perfectly. The only thing I would say is that 1 oz will be light but possible, but with the 7000, 1 oz is light anyway - especially with 65lb test. These rigs are used to throw heavy wood (4+ oz), storm shads, needles, weight & bait, whatever.

A lot of my fishing is in river mouths and outflows, and you can fish heavy (12-15lb) drag with these.

riverrat2 · 01-02-2008, 01:40 PM

1205 spinner is differrent than it is wrapped conventional. I have an ssu1201m that is the balls not as heavy as the gsb but can still turn large.

Back Beach · 01-02-2008, 04:15 PM

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1205 spinner is differrent than it is wrapped conventional.

Right.

I have both the spinning and conventional 1205. The conventional setup loads more easily than the spinning. I would say 3-5 oz works best in conventional format, and I like the spinning for 2-4. Still the same blank, but a little on the stiff side for spinning, although mine gets a lot of use. I guess what makes the spinning setup less attractive to me is that loading the blank puts a lot of pressure on your casting finger via the braided line, and resulting cuts if you aren't careful.
Of course with a big badass like me, in addition to scorning level wind reels, I would never lower myself to wearing a glove on my feces encrusted casting hand, either.

numbskull · 01-02-2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Back Beach

Of course with a big badass like me, in addition to scorning level wind reels, I would never lower myself to wearing a glove on my feces encrusted casting hand, either.

Don't tell me you've become a Yankee fan too! See what spinning tackle will do to you. As the bible says " .....and on the seventh day the Lord gazed upon his work and found it good except for the difficulty transvestites and others with gender confusion were having with conventional tackle so, in his magnificence, he created spinning reels and in NY there was much rejoicing" Genesis 21: 15

Acknowledge the Lord, repent, free your eels, sell your Van Staals and buy good wood (or old plastic and scented rubber if going cold turkey is too much all at once). God Bless. Amen.

MAC · 01-02-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

Don't tell me you've become a Yankee fan too! See what spinning tackle will do to you. As the bible says " .....and on the seventh day the Lord gazed upon his work and found it good except for the difficulty transvestites and others with gender confusion were having with conventional tackle so, in his magnificence, he created spinning reels and in NY there was much rejoicing" Genesis 21: 15

Acknowledge the Lord, repent, free your eels, sell your Van Staals and buy good wood (or old plastic and scented rubber if going cold turkey is too much all at once). God Bless. Amen.

Theology and [I]conventional[I] wisdom at its best

Back Beach · 01-03-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

Don't tell me you've become a Yankee fan too! See what spinning tackle will do to you. As the bible says " .....and on the seventh day the Lord gazed upon his work and found it good except for the difficulty transvestites and others with gender confusion were having with conventional tackle so, in his magnificence, he created spinning reels and in NY there was much rejoicing" Genesis 21: 15

Acknowledge the Lord, repent, free your eels, sell your Van Staals and buy good wood (or old plastic and scented rubber if going cold turkey is too much all at once). God Bless. Amen.

George, you're being added to my "must fish with" list for 2008. I'll bring the wine.

"Simon Peter saith unto them, I go a fishing. They say unto him, We also go with thee. They went forth, and entered into a ship immediately; and that night they(fished plugs and) caught nothing" John 21:3