"Bump " no take ....

[Tagger]

Saturday night we had alot of fish bumping plugs but not taking them . Switching plugs and getting bumps on almost everything but no takes . I had a fish hit a Numby donny so hard it made the plug fly . How it missed the hooks I don't know . Managed 1 fish on a skin plug (cheating) ,,, and bud got one on a black bomber and foul hooked a bass . This rarely happens but did happen one night last year when the fish were not taking just bumping . Finally foul hooked one in the top of the head .. I know .. should of had eels ..

[hyefisherman2]

well thats why its called fishing right?

[GooGoo Man]

Must be contagious, wed. nite joppa flatts, dragging eels, same thing, just bumps in the night, very frustrating to say the least. I assumed they were small fish.

[likwid]

sharpen your hooks.

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by likwid

sharpen your hooks.

VMC's only .. I stick myself all the time to make sure they are sharp ...

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by hyefisherman2

well thats why its called fishing right?

I don't know what that is ... something weird was going on .. Like the fish were really annoyed with the plugs in thier presence.. 1 or 2 you missed a fish ... after about ten ,,and not little taps mind you .. they were not happy with our offerings ..

[hyefisherman2]

or maybe they were just fincky, and were not fully committed into hitting and engulfing.

[stripersnipr]

I've wondered if those Bumps with no Pick ups could be a scent issue on the lure/bait. Soap or something else they dont like and detect from our hands.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

I've wondered if those Bumps with no Pick ups could be a scent issue on the lure/bait. Soap or something else they dont like and detect from our hands.

They probably smell the greed.



-spence

[BassDawg]

same-same a little further South,

Cape Ann, lotsa bumps last week.
took two 17", then a 20", then a 26" on a rigged eeel.
this was over the course of three weeks. still on the schnide!!

am pretty sure that they were all resident schoolies, because after those catches...................NADA!! landed the other three on swimmers and a spook at false dawn. this year is starting off slowly.

should get better by the Full,
hang in there, Tagger. still looking for decent surf, out there>>>
been like glass and gin clear water covered by dense fog and mist
for three weekends ina row.............praying for sum nice 1'-4' rollers
this coming w/e, might even hop on my buddy's boat for a keeper!!!

NAAHHHH, i'm not THAT desperate,,,,,,,,,,,,,,YET!!!

[Backbeach Jake]

I experienced the same thing yesterday. Bumpity bump. No take. Like they were po-ed at the plug on their turf (?). Plugs and tins. No sale.

[american spirit]

maybe they were spooked from fireworks and were being picky.

[Redsoxticket]

lotsa bumps sun. nite w/ loaded 7" redfin chicken scratch. Switched to a smaller swimmer, black a-salt, consistent hookups all small bass.

[beaver]

Same thing off Newport yesterday. Small fish. Got a few rats on a Tattoo Sea Pup, but missed my fair share. Some sandeels in the water. Switched to a small stubby needle just to get some more bumps and no true hits. I blame it on small fish. Not too familiar with the area. Sandeels common in the NPT rocks?

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by Tagger

Saturday night we had alot of fish bumping plugs but not taking them . Switching plugs and getting bumps on almost everything but no takes . I had a fish hit a Numby donny so hard it made the plug fly . How it missed the hooks I don't know . Managed 1 fish on a skin plug (cheating) ,,, and bud got one on a black bomber and foul hooked a bass . This rarely happens but did happen one night last year when the fish were not taking just bumping . Finally foul hooked one in the top of the head .. I know .. should of had eels ..

Eels aside, if I were fishing plugs I would try the following..

1. Remove leader and tie direct if you're fishing mono.

2. Long hackles on the tail hook of a plug sometimes entice fish to strike. It used to work for me real well in pleasant bay.Can't tell you how many times the fish would chew the feathers off, rendering the plug ineffective.

3. Try a dropper fly or redgill. Maybe they're feeding on sandeels or the like.

4. If all else fails, its time for an eel retrieved very fast...

[DZ]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

Eels aside, if I were fishing plugs I would try the following..

1. Remove leader and tie direct if you're fishing mono.

2. Long hackles on the tail hook of a plug sometimes entice fish to strike. It used to work for me real well in pleasant bay.Can't tell you how many times the fish would chew the feathers off, rendering the plug ineffective.

3. Try a dropper fly or redgill. Maybe they're feeding on sandeels or the like.

4. If all else fails, its time for an eel retrieved very fast...

I'll add a another suggestion to Back Beaches' list:
5. Try downsizing your plugs or use a three trebled plug such as 6 inch Bomber, 5 inch redfin, or smaller. Tie direct.

One thing you can't change is their mood - they don't feed all the time. If they did there wouldn't be many left. I always try and equate striper fishing with largemouth bass fishing. Sometimes they don't bite or hit aggressively. A pond can be full of largemouth bass but they won't touch anything - but they're still in the pond. Striped bass can exhibit the same behavior.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by DZ

I'll add a another suggestion to Back Beaches' list:
5. Try downsizing your plugs or use a three trebled plug such as 6 inch Bomber, 5 inch redfin, or smaller. Tie direct.

One thing you can't change is their mood - they don't feed all the time. If they did there wouldn't be many left. I always try and equate striper fishing with largemouth bass fishing. Sometimes they don't bite or hit aggressively. A pond can be full of largemouth bass but they won't touch anything - but they're still in the pond. Striped bass can exhibit the same behavior.

6. Learn to flyfish.

[Diggin Jiggin]

Sometimes the rip it and pause, rip it and pause gets them to take it.

[Rockport24]

Originally Posted by likwid

6. Learn to flyfish.

or how to tie one on as a teaser

[Crafty Angler]

Originally Posted by DZ

I'll add a another suggestion to Back Beaches' list:
5. Try downsizing your plugs or use a three trebled plug such as 6 inch Bomber, 5 inch redfin, or smaller. Tie direct.

D. - I know you're a fan of the 5" Redfin - what's the largest size hook you'd suggest using without adversely affecting the action?

[EarnedStripes44]

This past monday, same story. It was dead low, fishing a little known spot on the Mystic and a schoolie would just follow the lure all the way up to the shore, but never went in for the kill not even a bump. Stumped?

[Vogt]

This happens to me all the time at a spot where the bass are almost always on smallish bait. What I find works is to vary the retrieve quite a bit. Often we fish bombers in this area, and giving the plug a long pause will entice savage takes from somewhat finicky bass.

[bart]

i've had good luck with big dannies when fish were keyed in on smallish bait

[RIJIMMY]

I was going to put a up a thread on what i learned from fsihing live bunker. Since its in the day and mostly on the surface, you see everything. I am amazed at how many times a bunker is 95% dead, and bass whack it over and over and miss. These are fish that can easily swallow it. If they cant even take a dead fish, think of that with plugs!

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I was going to put a up a thread on what i learned from fsihing live bunker. Since its in the day and mostly on the surface, you see everything. I am amazed at how many times a bunker is 95% dead, and bass whack it over and over and miss. These are fish that can easily swallow it. If they cant even take a dead fish, think of that with plugs!

How about a bunker fishing from a boat is easy thread.

[OLD GOAT]

In the spring ,in bays on outgoing i would use twodroper flys infront of a 5" rebble for small fish when the size limit was 16" but i haven't used it i n years

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by OLD GOAT

In the spring ,in bays on outgoing i would use twodroper flys infront of a 5" rebble for small fish when the size limit was 16" but i haven't used it i n years

Ooooh, you're giving out all the good secrets now, Pete. You told me almost 20 years ago to never,ever show that trick to anyone.

I remember you telling me to always put that rig on with my back to the water otherwise I might lose it.

If this keeps up I'm going to tell everyone about the toothbrush lure....

[Tagger]

thanks all ... this was actually the size fish present of few taken,,bomber,,skin plug,,foul hook.. truth is they bumped almost everything in the bag .. yes a teaser might have been the trick .. DZ ,, funny .. I fresh water bass fish too and always compare the two .. very similar..

[Skitterpop]

I would tie on a teaser 18" behind a hookless tin. The tin aiding in casting,delivery, and the predator/prey scenario which many bass cannot resist to get in on.

Are many or most of you using braid?

[swimshad]

Under those circumstances i always switch to a slow sink white needle with a loong pause instead of a twitch...works more often than it doesnt.