do the math on this one.. - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Nebe · 02-13-2009, 10:11 PM

36" G, 53" L

BillM · 02-13-2009, 10:23 PM

Wow! you made the best of some warm weather - Nice catch!

Nebe · 02-13-2009, 10:41 PM

I wish that was me.. but it is not-Chesapeake bay fish- caught and released after measurement.

Pete F. · 02-13-2009, 10:46 PM

85.86?

Nebe · 02-13-2009, 10:47 PM

heres another shot-

C&R guys use this formula- Length X Girth squared, divided by 800 = weight in pounds. I come up with 86 LBS!! if this is true, we are looking at a new world record folks.

Circlehook · 02-13-2009, 10:54 PM

That fish is purty...and caught in a jon boat to boot.

MAKAI · 02-13-2009, 10:58 PM

WOW !!! better go find the find the honey, something came up.

t.orlando · 02-13-2009, 11:13 PM

Not a beliver in the "Formula", but that is one awesome blimp of a fish. Kudos to them for releasing it too.

BassDawg · 02-13-2009, 11:44 PM

not disputing the math,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
as my numbers are the same; YET~~

wasn't the McReynolds Farce caught
on 20#test line?? what test did this boater use?

just curious and unsure of where the IGFA
stands on this one when comparing weights.

ALSO, wouldn't the feesh have to be weighed
on a certified scale to overtake the current WR??

THAT is a BEAUTY, though!!

afterhours · 02-14-2009, 08:01 AM

wow....what a fish! ......and she's still swimming

. hats off for a job well done.

NIB · 02-14-2009, 08:03 AM

Wow.It looks like a pig.I don't have as much a problem with the formula as I do the measurement part of the formula.I have seen many different ways to measure a fish.Some are not so good.Thats besides the point anyways.It sure looks like a nice fish.
Nebe,What other info can you give on it..

Nebe · 02-14-2009, 08:15 AM

chesapeake, boat, released after measuring and photo...thats all I got NIB

that guy is the captian sullyburger of fishing in my eyes.. takes a confident guy to let a fish like that swim away..

I think it was caught on a 14 inch surf hog pleasure stick

Sea Dangles · 02-14-2009, 09:08 AM

BassDawg, aWorld Record is one in the same regardless of what pound test you are using. There are line class records and they are a pain in the ass to verify.Obviously this angler doesn't care to have the headache McReynolds had.I sure would love to bottom out my boga some day.That is a well fed animal,kinda like NIB after PITS.

BassDawg · 02-14-2009, 10:13 AM

funny stuff SeaDangles and thanks
for the clarification, i was certain that there
were two types of WR,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

i dunno, Chris, those "kinds of headaches" i'll take,
while most of it was self-induced, imho,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

i believe that it also has to do with the fact
that there were two anglers involved with Ole Albert's feesh.
also, 20# test, tied direct, for a 78.8# Striper seems miraculous, AT BEST!!

Sea Dangles · 02-14-2009, 01:49 PM

BD, if you want miraculous then try 56lb. 14oz. on 6lb. test by Landon at Gay Head in 'Oct '81. More recently we have a 50lb 9oz. specimen caught on 2 lb. test in VA. on Dec 30 '07.Even Crazy Alberto claimed to have caught a 45lb. 5 oz. lunker on 8 lb. test with a plug no less. All of these catches make MacReynolds tale easier to swallow IMO.

wetsuit'nmtk · 02-14-2009, 02:43 PM

bravo on the release that is one mother of slob

ivanputski · 02-14-2009, 02:53 PM

Its never easy to take exact measurements when the fish is alive and kicking... Keep a scale with you at all times...although my best fish come when i forget the scale or camera... if that was an 80# bass, you just released THOUSANDS of dollars in endorsements... if it was 70#, glad shes swimming... if it was 80#, I'd be kicking myself... and not knowing would probably haunt me. *(all that B.S aside, nice catch! glad she's out there breeding)

Mike P · 02-14-2009, 03:13 PM

I also think that the "formula" is based on fork length, not total length??

BassDawg · 02-14-2009, 03:50 PM

SD, i hear ya about the verified records and some anglers
specialize their catches in that manner. although that "style"
of fishing is NOT for me, as that is the epitome of machismo BS!!

i view McReynolds as more of a Ham&Egger, who
got VERRRRY lucky(right time/right place/i'm aware that a degree of LUCK is
part and parcel to ALL big catches) and who's catch will ALWAYS be tainted, imho,
from the very second that his buddy grabbed his hoodie.

at that POINT in the fight it was no longer man vs fish;
but it became 2 men vs 1 striper. don't get me wrong, i
don't think that his buddy shouldn't have saved him,
it's just that, in my view, at that crossroads in the battle
MoSaxxy won the fight!!!

i never, EVER, would proclaim that fish to be the World Record.
Cinto's Striper is the WR i acknowledge; but, the good part of seeing
a COW of that size down at the OBX is this~~~

SHE'LL be 90#'s or better this FALL and hopefully~~~
"she'll be coming around my preferred lie when SHE comes!!"

gfishermanMTKPT · 02-14-2009, 03:56 PM

holy crap! just to know the possibility that she's out there.i'mma comin for ya!congrats on your catch.insane!

BassDawg · 02-14-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gfishermanMTKPT

holy crap! just to know the possibility that she's out there.i'mma comin for ya!congrats on your catch.insane!

and SHE'S not alone, gents!!!

however, please correct me if i'm WRONG, but
doesn't the latest science now state that the
BEST breeders are those girls in the 25#-35# class?

doesn't the fecundity ratio greatly diminish the older the BIG GALS get?
while it IS true that they drop more eggs; is it also true that their eggs
aren't as fertile as the fewer eggs that the younger gurls drop?

still trying to figure out this whole "best breeders of the species" science?

numbskull · 02-14-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BassDawg

and SHE'S not alone, gents!!!

however, please correct me if i'm WRONG, but
doesn't the latest science now state that the
BEST breeders are those girls in the 25#-35# class?

doesn't the fecundity ratio greatly diminish the older the BIG GALS get?
while it IS true that they drop more eggs; is it also true that their eggs
aren't as fertile as the fewer eggs that the younger gurls drop?

still trying to figure out this whole "best breeders of the species" science?

OK, you asked.
This was all hashed out last year http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ight=fecundity. You clearly didn't believe it then, and apparently still don't want to believe it. Fecundity, egg quality, genetic quality, and population breeding success all improve with older fish. Here is one of many references again. Why not read it, Bass Dawg, and hopefully stop spreading a misleading myth that rationalizes killing the most valuable fish in the population? If the whole thing is too detailed, scroll 1/2 way through to the subtitle regarding age and fecundity. http://hmsc.oregonstate.edu/HsO/PDF/...0Fisheries.pdf . Thanks

PS Here's another http://www.science.calwater.ca.gov/p..._fecundity.pdf

fishaholic18 · 02-14-2009, 06:51 PM

Nice fish...congrats to the angler....

l.i.fish.in.vt · 02-14-2009, 08:39 PM

very nice fish,i bet they were targeting muskie or some other freshwater species and that is why it might have been released

ProfessorM · 02-14-2009, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebe

I wish that was me.. but it is not-Chesapeake bay fish- caught and released after measurement.

Where was it caught? Never mind I just read.

Nice fish

Nebe · 02-14-2009, 09:40 PM

Caught in a state that has a law that makes possession of striped bass illegal this time of year-

BassDawg · 02-14-2009, 09:44 PM

EZ there big fella!

i did say, "Please, correct me if i am WRONG".
i am on the side of the best science available,

thanks George for posting those links,

and i WILL reread them and try to retain them THIS time.
i still doan think i could've released her.

i am quite shore that SHE is just one of HUNDREDS and perhaps 1,000's.

if she is INDEED from the Classes of '89,'93, or '96~~~
by the way, they were ALL banner YOY#'s for each year~~
and each class of yearmates would be 19yo, 15yo, and 13yo respectively.
1996 was thru the roof!!

these next two or three years should be amazing and we should see fish of this size and greater, often. POTENTIALLY, the IGFA will be shattered and we could sea sum AMAZING catches from the shore as well!! i know i'll be loaded for MOBY'S next Fall, will YOU

sooooo, approximately, how old is an 85#'er anyways??

intrepid24 · 02-14-2009, 09:46 PM

thats a gorgeous fish, and it was very commendable releasing it,
however i wonder what its odds of recuperating were after being held up by the gill like that. quite a bit of pressure there.
too bad it wasn't supported horizontally, or w/ a boga grip.
any thoughts ?

ivanputski · 02-14-2009, 10:25 PM

was kindof thinking the same thing... kind of like punching an 85 year old man in the face, dragging him out of his house into the front yard and then lifting him up by his ears... he's not going to just walk back inside and watch jeopardy like nothing happened when you let him go...

gone fishin · 02-14-2009, 10:42 PM

One beautiful cow. 19+/- years old and max weight app. 68 lbs. She was probably loaded with eggs. Lifting a fish that large by the gills probably killed the big girl.