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10-18-2009, 02:25 PM
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Seldom Seen
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Why $$$ to Pakistan?
Billions to a country in which the Taliban and Al Queda operate from with relative arm's length wink wink safety.... makes me sick. As corrupt as Afghan government, and denies communiques with those parties mentioned above. Our President and SoS actually has to verbally lean on Pakistan to stand up against the Taliban???? Give me a break. They're a proxy of the Pakistan government. Shut the money OFF, now!
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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10-18-2009, 02:32 PM
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Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nightfighter
Billions to a country in which the Taliban and Al Queda operate from with relative arm's length wink wink safety.... makes me sick. As corrupt as Afghan government, and denies communiques with those parties mentioned above. Our President and SoS actually has to verbally lean on Pakistan to stand up against the Taliban???? Give me a break. They're a proxy of the Pakistan government. Shut the money OFF, now!
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I wouldn't call them a "proxy" but perhaps a "product" might be more accurate.
The secular Pakistani secret service has long used radicalism as a weapon. Many say we directly encouraged this when Pakistan was trying to build up militants to fight the Soviets. Hell, we did send nearly 5 BILLION to aid the Jihadis in the 1980's.
The government of Pakistan has little to gain from the Taliban now, they just can't control some of the elements they helped to create.
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01-13-2010, 04:47 PM
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Note to Pakistanis;
We've had to suspend your monthly stipend of millions of dollars for the foreseeable future. We've found a more immediate need of those funds in Haiti. Thank you for your understanding.....
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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01-13-2010, 09:12 PM
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Location: Here and There Seasonally
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It's called mitigation money. For those of us who aren't polls, bribes.
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05-02-2011, 06:14 PM
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Seldom Seen
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A little timely bump......
Can we shut off the money spigot now??????
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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05-02-2011, 07:14 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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yeah
time to swing the faucet to a usa direction
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05-02-2011, 08:32 PM
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Mosholu
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NYC
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I think we are in a in a tough spot regarding Pakistan. We can not pull out all the aid for their military and security services although they are corrupt and compromised because we do not want to take the chance that they will become more radical and threaten new hostilities with India. Remember they do have nuclear capabilities and do we really want to hand that option over to a radical muslim state. I guess the idea is that it is better to have them somewhat in the tent than completely out of it. Sh*tty choice but there it is.
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05-02-2011, 08:41 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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heck, turn it off. They can't even control half the land, the tribal area is just that. Afghanistan in Pakistan
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05-03-2011, 03:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
I wouldn't call them a "proxy" but perhaps a "product" might be more accurate.
The secular Pakistani secret service has long used radicalism as a weapon. Many say we directly encouraged this when Pakistan was trying to build up militants to fight the Soviets. Hell, we did send nearly 5 BILLION to aid the Jihadis in the 1980's.
The government of Pakistan has little to gain from the Taliban now, they just can't control some of the elements they helped to create.
-spence
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yes, the Taliban is a "product" of our own doing, at least "many" would say so....good grief |
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05-03-2011, 05:02 AM
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GrayBeards
Join Date: Jan 2011
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"White House counterterrorism chief John Brennan told a briefing that Pakistan was not informed of the raid until after all U.S. aircraft were out of Pakistani airspace.
Irate U.S. lawmakers wondered how it was possible for bin Laden to live in a populated area near a military training academy without anyone in authority knowing about it.
They said it was time to review aid to Pakistan. The U.S. Congress has approved $20 billion for Pakistan in direct aid and military reimbursements partly to help Islamabad fight militancy since bin Laden masterminded the September 11, 2001 attacks."
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05-03-2011, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw
yes, the Taliban is a "product" of our own doing, at least "many" would say so....good grief
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As usual, I never said that...keep making things up, it's about the only you can manage to get a point together.
I'll also amend my previous statement in that Pakistan probably does get value from the Taliban as a destabalizing force...but I'm not sure the ROI will be as good as it was in the past.
-spence
Last edited by spence; 05-03-2011 at 06:19 PM..
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05-03-2011, 06:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
As usual, I never said that...keep making things up, it's about the only you can manage to get a point together.
I'll also amend my previous statement in that Pakistan probably does get value from the Taliban as a destabalizing force...but I'm not sure the ROI will be as good as it was in the past.
-spence
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exactly what you said
nf...the Taliban???? Give me a break. They're a proxy of the Pakistan government
Spence..."I wouldn't call them a "proxy" but perhaps a " product"
"Pakistani ss has long used radicalism as a weapon"
"Many say we directly encouraged this "
"Hell, we did send nearly 5 BILLION to aid the Jihadis "
as usual...blame America...what exactly did I make up? |
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