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03-18-2010, 10:10 AM
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UN rejects export ban on Atlantic bluefin tuna
UN rejects export ban on Atlantic bluefin tuna
By MICHAEL CASEY (AP) – 30 minutes ago
DOHA, Qatar — A U.S.-backed proposal to ban the export of Atlantic bluefin tuna prized in sushi was rejected Thursday by a U.N. wildlife meeting, with scores of developing nations joining Japan in opposing a measure they feared would devastate fishing economies.
Monaco introduced the proposal at the 175-nation Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species, or CITES. It argued that extreme measures for the iconic, migratory fish were necessary because the stocks have fallen by 75 percent due to widespread overfishing.
But as debate opened, it became clear that the proposal had little support. Only the United States, Norway and Kenya supported the proposal outright. The European Union asked that implementation be delayed until May 2011 to give authorities time to respond to concerns about overfishing.
Japan, which imports 80 percent of Atlantic bluefin and has led the opposition to the ban, reiterated its arguments that CITES should have no role in regulating tuna and other marine species. It expressed willingness to accept lower quotas for bluefin tuna but wanted those to come from the International Commission for the Conservation of Atlantic Tunas, or ICCAT, which currently regulates the trade.
"Japan is very much concerned about the status of Atlantic bluefin tuna and Japan has been working so hard for many years to ensure recovery," Masanori Miyahara, chief counselor of the Fisheries Agency of Japan, told delegates. "But our position is very simple. Let us do this job in ICCAT, not in CITES. This position is shared by majority of Asian nations."
Monaco tried to sway the delegates by reminding them that ICCAT has for years failed to maintain sustainable quotas that were supported by its own scientists. It also unsuccessfully tried to dispel fears that a CITES listing would last forever — even including language allowing Atlantic bluefin to be delisted once the stock recovers.
"This exploitation is no longer exploitation by traditional fishing people to meet regional needs," Monaco's Patrick Van Klaveren told delegates. "Industrial fishing of species is having a severe effect on numbers of this species and its capacity to recover. We are facing a real ecosystem collapse."
The tuna defeat came hours after delegates rejected a U.S. proposal to ban the international sale of polar bear skins and parts, showing that economic interest at this meeting appeared to be trumping conservation. It also raised the prospect that a CITES meeting that was packed with several dozen promising proposals could end next week in failure for environmentalists.
The Americans argued that the sale of polar bears skins is compounding the loss of the animals' sea ice habitat due to climate change. There are projections that the bear's numbers, which are estimated at 20,000 to 25,000, could decline by two-thirds due by 2050 due to habitat loss in the Arctic.
But Canada, Greenland and several indigenous communities argued the trade had little impact on the white bears population and would adversely effect their economies.
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03-18-2010, 10:28 AM
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Yeah!
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03-18-2010, 04:11 PM
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Another hand played by the Obama administration, another failure.
Good to see other nations have common sense.
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03-18-2010, 06:25 PM
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It always makes me happy when the interests of another country like Japan trump those of the USA.
-spence
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03-18-2010, 06:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buckman
Another hand played by the Obama administration, another failure.
Good to see other nations have common sense.
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I know your attention span is good for about 8 seconds but discussion of this was started by the Bush administration. Try again zippy.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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03-18-2010, 09:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
I know your attention span is good for about 8 seconds but discussion of this was started by the Bush administration. Try again zippy.
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Actually you're the Zippy on this one,
Bill Hogarth was head of NMFS under George Bush and he was on record many times as being vehemently opposed to a CITIES listing for Bluefin.
The United States has NEVER pushed or sponsored a CITIES listing, or officially been in favor of the listing until 3 weeks ago.
This change of direction came from JANE LUBCHENCHO of Pew
Charitable Trust Fame who happens to be BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S appointment as the head of NMFS.
I've got no problem with people having a varying opinion, but know what the hell your talking about before you go insulting anyone.
Last edited by big jay; 03-18-2010 at 09:06 PM..
Reason: improper pronoun
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03-18-2010, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by big jay
... BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S ...
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A year and change later and this still makes me chuckle a little.
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03-18-2010, 09:31 PM
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I actually think its dumb, but it does make me laugh too when I hear it.
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03-19-2010, 04:10 AM
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My 130's are singing with glee.
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Make America Great Again.
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03-19-2010, 05:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
It always makes me happy when the interests of another country like Japan trump those of the USA.
-spence
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Don't you drive a japanese car?
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03-19-2010, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
It always makes me happy when the interests of another country like Japan trump those of the USA.
-spence
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It always makes me unhappy when the idiots in Washington (of either party) take a position that is against the best interest of the USA. Then it makes me happy when that position in rejected by the rest of the world.
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03-19-2010, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MakoMike
It always makes me unhappy when the idiots in Washington (of either party) take a position that is against the best interest of the USA. Then it makes me happy when that position in rejected by the rest of the world.
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I know this isn't the political forum but the above reminds me of a certain Iraq war.
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03-19-2010, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
I know this isn't the political forum but the above reminds me of a certain Iraq war.
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When did the rest of the world approve of the Iraq war?
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03-21-2010, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MakoMike
When did the rest of the world approve of the Iraq war?
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Precisely. The idiots in DC at the time took the position that was against the best interest of the US and the rest of the world (aside from the British) rejected their position.
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03-22-2010, 07:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by big jay
I've got no problem with people having a varying opinion, but know what the hell your talking about before you go insulting anyone.
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or as a friend of mine once said...
Make sure there are fish in those waters.
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