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Old 07-18-2010, 11:01 AM   #1
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sharkin'

i've been bitten so to speak. with our recent success i have a few questions. baits - anything work better than others? live/dead. oily fish or white meat fish. permits/regs - does my tuna angling permit cover me for other hms? or is it a seperate endorsement? targeting makos or threshers - is there anything to up the odds on bringing in these species, aside from heading further south? i know alot of questions. kings website has been great. these fish seem to tolerate being caught and released well and with the tuna situation being what it is this may be a fun way to catch some large critters and do some groundfishing. i'm gonna liveline one of those tiny dogfish next time out there

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Old 07-18-2010, 07:02 PM   #2
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also need a 3rd guy who is available during the week w/ short notice. it wouldn't hurt if you owned a 23' boat either

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Old 07-19-2010, 03:19 PM   #3
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The bigger blue sharks are 5 miles east of the bank. maybe 20 a day some days. jig up anything off the bottom and fillet one side for hook bait. the huge makos will be in with the tuna close to the bank, {so will the hordes of doggs}the big blue sharks are out past the bank in the deeper water.
Your permit covers you, you can not shark fish with general cat. tuna permit.
Better chances at {more} makos and threshers are south of nantucket.
best tip I can offer is fresh chum. fresh enough to eat.

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Old 07-19-2010, 03:21 PM   #4
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you don't need to go further south

permit covers it

get a gallon of bunker oil and a slow drip

chum bucket

jig up anything

fillet it up

send hooks out on balloons varying depths

wait.

Experts will chime in with more sophisticated response but that about sums it up from what I can tell.

I would like to know how to target more mako/thresher over blue dogs.

I hear you have to go deep for thresher.
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Old 07-19-2010, 03:42 PM   #5
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sounds good boys. next week i'll give it a go

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Old 07-19-2010, 04:23 PM   #6
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I've been sharking 2X, once with Capt Tom ( let's go sharkfishing ) who's website is a treasure trove of information. The only shark I've caught is an 8' blue. Plan to keep yourself occupied bottom fishing which really made a success of the Capt Tom trip, bringing home several 100's of lbs of cod/haddock while waiting all day for the blues to appear. They (10-12' ers) finally did at the end of the day but only inspected, not injested, our blue fish bait.

Oh yea: what MrHunters said is what we did.

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Old 07-21-2010, 10:30 AM   #7
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Niko,

I have a 23' boat!

I have RNR rigged.

I have a dozen wind on rigs with rattle and skirts ready to go.

I have 2 cable tail ropes.

I have a harpoon with 2 cable darts rigged.

I have menhaden oil.

I have a detachable chum bucket system with radar reflector.

I can get chum on short notice.

I NEED TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was thinking the same thing about sharkin'.

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Old 07-22-2010, 10:38 PM   #8
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THats funny because I have time but my boat is 25 feet so I guess I'm out?


let me know if you want to hook up some time. I'm game mid week. I usually do wednesdays.

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Old 07-23-2010, 01:44 PM   #9
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terrence you have everything and then some, you just need to fish more. tajon - i guess a 25' boat will do. wednessdays work for me

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Old 07-25-2010, 08:11 PM   #10
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Got 37 bluesharks of all sizes this weekend
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Old 07-26-2010, 06:36 AM   #12
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so... i guess it's time to go. i can't imagine 37

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Old 07-26-2010, 09:25 AM   #13
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We got 6, tagged 4.
Set up at 9. Landed 1st shark at 930

Great day for sharkin. Had at least 3 at the boat all day. Even a mola mola stopped by to check out the chum bucket.

I can't believe a gallon of bunker oil is 40$ bucks now!

Video on the way.

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Old 07-26-2010, 09:26 AM   #14
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14 hour slick Out at wildcat and 3 guys willing to fight every one .

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Old 07-26-2010, 09:28 AM   #15
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14 hour slick Out at wildcat and 3 guys willing to fight every one .

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you must have been junk the next day
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Old 07-26-2010, 10:22 AM   #16
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sound like some pretty good trips!
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:54 PM   #17
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looks like tomorow is the day. a s-b meeting of the minds. we'll be lucky if we don't kill ourselves

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Old 07-26-2010, 05:23 PM   #18
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If the sharks are real hungry we can throw Joe in We will surely laugh our butts off hahaha.
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Old 07-26-2010, 07:24 PM   #19
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If the sharks are real hungry we can throw Joe in We will surely laugh our butts off hahaha.

ill bet they'd be more interested in your prop
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Old 07-27-2010, 08:35 AM   #20
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Were there dogs on wildcat?

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Old 07-27-2010, 02:52 PM   #21
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we got 3 today and a bunch of codfish. fortunatly we didn't have to use macojoe for chum. i'll put some pix up later. saw some tuna just a mile out from green harbor on the way in.

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Old 07-27-2010, 03:10 PM   #22
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nice work. something for the table too!
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:41 PM   #23
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macojoe in action. put up some pix when you have a chance joe. you've got all the good ones
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:55 PM   #24
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Great time thanks Paul. We had a blast,you think thats a fighting chair Joe is in or did he need a break
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thats pretty sporty with that belt. We;ve been using the power play belt. big advantage.

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Old 07-28-2010, 11:22 PM   #26
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I have some good experience sharkin. Fished the Oak Bluffs Tourney in 2004 with good luck, 2 mako's, a thresher and many blues (smallest boat in tourney). I'd be happy to share my experiences and best practices if anyone is interested. Two quick lessons: Think safety at all times. Mako's are the most agressive sharks on the planet and will try to jump in your boat. They are also fantastic eating. Some say better than swordfish. Fresh I give swordfish the esge but Mako freezes better and is delicious for a long time.

Good luck! Please share photo's/stories!
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:05 AM   #27
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Mako's are the most agressive sharks on the planet and will try to jump in your boat.
Gimme a break! Yes they jump, but the few times they have landed in a boat has been by accident,

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Old 08-08-2010, 08:55 PM   #28
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Over 20 Saturday at wildcat of all sizes a couple over 300. No makos yet but our ratio of 100:1 is dwindling down so we expect one any time now.
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Sounds like a bull ride.

Went 4/5 on Sunday at tillies. They were pretty aggressive, biting the chum bucket a couple took but chunks out of my noodle . Pretty rough seas, 1 man down to sea sickness.

Very small sharks compared to past couple years. Biggest being 7 or 8 ft average 5 fters. No makos for us either.

Good day though!

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Old 08-15-2010, 10:43 PM   #30
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Mike,

I would have thought the same thing, until it almost happened to me. Fishin the OB tourney and we hooked a smaller mako, 104 lbs. This fish immediately jumped at least 20 feet in the air about 75 yds off the stern and the line went slack. The fish charged toward us under water all the way to the stern and jumped at a full sprint right behind us. If I were standing a midship at the port gunnel I could have reached out sideways and touched the fish as it flew by above my head. It broke water 5 yards behind the boat and flew right by. 5 feet to it's right and it lands right in the cockpit. I can't help but believe that it saw the boat on the first jump and charged directly for us and then jumped when it saw the stern. JMHO, but I think the fish was in attack mode and it was no accident.

I'm sure I wrote a post on this back in 2004 but have no idea how to find it. Wish I had the cockpit video that Sandman is looking into. This footage would have definately been on ESPN without doubt.
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