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08-23-2011, 06:36 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Irene
She's coming but depending on which way she comes, will she crank up the fishing or crank it up and shut it down? Kick off the Fall Run? Or she could simply be a non factor.
This is why June is always more productive.
(unless you're like me and miss June )
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
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08-23-2011, 06:45 AM
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Super Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
(unless you're like me and miss June )
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Feeling your pain right there.....
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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08-23-2011, 06:54 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Cumberland, RI
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I can't see how it can make things any worse... for my haunts anyway.
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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08-23-2011, 07:11 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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I'm not a big fan of storms... I think their (positive) effect on the fish is overated.. I prefer to find and fish for my quarry under my terms, not terms dictaded by wind and weather, IMHO, it takes the odds out of my favor... people fish harder during storms because they BELIEVE the fishing is better.. and as a rule if you fish harder.. you'll do better..this kind of goes along with the June theory.. early season, everyone is chomping at the bit and most tend to fish harder than they do in August, by September, most ( except the dedicated) have scaled back their efforts or have other interests ( kids going back to school or hunting comne to mind) thus the fishing seems slower..mainly because the ones doing the damge( catching) enjoy their solitude and arn't talking... I've had nights in September that would trump my very best night in June...3 times over.
that said, storms tend to break up bait concetrations, thus scattering them and the fish that are with them.. often driving them dazed and confused towards the shore making feeding game fish an eaiser (more available)target to those shore bound anglers... the north shore ( Plum Island to the NH boarder) has seen a glut of bait this season.. mainly sand eels and mackerel, also this season. for the first time in many years saw belly herring have stayed in the river all year, thus giving the larger bass a major food sorce... as of late, bluefish have been maurading the beaches and river, breaking up those bait concentrations.. herring and shad drops have been appearing for a few weeks now... we've already lost an hours day light in the evening.. .. .. no doubt in my mind the fall run ( another overated phenom, especialy in our neck of the woods) is beginning..
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A good run is better than a bad stand!
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08-23-2011, 07:20 AM
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Joe's post makes sense... In my experience, If I am on fish for a while, and a big blow comes. The fishing goes downhill quick. If I can't buy a fish (like now). The storm spreads them out and gives a blind squirrel a nut or 2.
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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08-23-2011, 08:11 AM
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Location: Kingston MA
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Not sure on the fishing but I have a feeling that Irene is going to do a lot of damage. Especially if it keeps getting stronger (as predicted) and then pin balls up the east coast. Scary stuff.
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08-23-2011, 08:24 AM
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Registered User
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Location: massachusetts
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For the surf guy, you want the big body (stellwagon fish for example) to get pushed in shore to have a slaughter night. Certain hard winds or storms could do this. The tricky part is timing, and knowing where on the coast it could happen. Each area I fish has the "perfect storm" conditions to do this, but you're at the mercy of the weather, and even then it doesnt pay off all the time. The odds are tough, but when they go in your favor be ready for a banner night.
Then like rockfish9 said, the normal, stable conditions are much easier to deal with as things are more routine and consistent.
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08-23-2011, 08:33 AM
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Not a fan of big blows. It can shut down the fishing for a long time. The season here is too short already.
Hope it heads inland fast and stays south.
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08-23-2011, 08:34 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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Hurricane IRENE.. for those that want to track it.
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A good run is better than a bad stand!
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08-23-2011, 08:45 AM
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Respect your elvers
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Location: franklin ma
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1-2 days before the storm hits can be insane. Last year my two best nights of fishing (one was fresh water, one was salt) occurred while the storms were out over NY/NJ and headed our way. Maybe not a guarantee, but I know where I'll be looking and when if this storm heads our way.
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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08-23-2011, 09:27 AM
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IMO ...I havn,t had a big storm that I havn,t done extremely well .
the day before & right thru a few days after .
that being said / that,s not ground fish ....... for me I won,t even fish / bottom for days after a big blow ;; 
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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08-23-2011, 09:30 AM
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Oh BTW ,
Lets not have a #^&#^&#^&#^& -in 6 day thread on a storm ... minute X minute update & all the B/S ya can come up with .
It is what it is & its gonna do & go where it wants ... So P L E SE don,t BTS out of this .
Ya all are bad enough when we suppose to have a N/Easter 
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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08-23-2011, 10:08 AM
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Clams like stormy weather me thinks
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08-23-2011, 10:15 AM
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Scarecrow
Join Date: May 2003
Location: bedford ma
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Tape up the windows, batten down the hatches. To the root cellar, now, while we still can.
Where is that Dorothy? 
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08-23-2011, 10:29 AM
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This looks not good for beach erosion which is my concern. Look at the consensus model.
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08-23-2011, 10:32 AM
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Super Moderator
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Hope I got enough Batteries and Bottled Water
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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08-23-2011, 10:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Hope I got enough Batteries and Bottled Water
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I hope I have enough batteries and vodka and beer. 
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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08-23-2011, 11:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clammer
Oh BTW ,
Lets not have a #^&#^&#^&#^& -in 6 day thread on a storm ... minute X minute update & all the B/S ya can come up with .
It is what it is & its gonna do & go where it wants ... So P L E SE don,t BTS out of this .
Ya all are bad enough when we suppose to have a N/Easter 
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Pretty funny.. but sad and true.. .. but you know it's coming.. I predict 8 pages... this ought to crank up those yellow eyed devils!
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A good run is better than a bad stand!
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08-23-2011, 11:15 AM
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lobster = striper bait
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I'm not liking the 11am model consensus at all.
RIRH, looks like the trough isn't gonna hold it.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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08-23-2011, 11:27 AM
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I'm hopin it pushes the bones and albies in my direction.
The usual spots are loaded with butterfish, but so far only the blues know about it.
If the hardtails get blown in, they got reason to stay a while.
I hope we can get out this weekend to look around.
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08-23-2011, 11:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billybob
I'm hopin it pushes the bones and albies in my direction.
The usual spots are loaded with butterfish, but so far only the blues know about it.
If the hardtails get blown in, they got reason to stay a while.
I hope we can get out this weekend to look around.
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Im waiting for the same thing. Any day/week now. was in a cove loaded with bait sunday mornign with nothing but blues to show. Another week or so and it would have been albies.
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08-23-2011, 11:39 AM
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Here fishy fishy
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Location: Whoville
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I've had some of my best saltwater sessions during hurricanes.
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08-23-2011, 12:01 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Cumberland, RI
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I've had some of my best drinking session during hurricanes.
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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08-23-2011, 01:27 PM
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Also known as OAK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
I'm not liking the 11am model consensus at all.
RIRH, looks like the trough isn't gonna hold it.
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Thats what it looks like as of now..... 2pm ensemble models much more of a focus on NE.... basically from NYC to Halifax...
hunch is a bob scenario with more of a deflection off Hatteras this time, although the models are inching east away from Hatteras. also could be coming ashore with a spring high tide.... could be interesting....
where is weather man bill?
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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08-23-2011, 01:59 PM
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No Shorts On
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Crap! Sorry...that's all I've got
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08-23-2011, 02:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
where is weather man bill?
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I think he mentioned something about being out of the country this week.
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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08-23-2011, 02:04 PM
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Registered User
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Location: NorthKingstown
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Love me a good 'Cane!
I know some spots along the RI shore that could use a good Hurricane to clean out the water. Bottom draggers have decimated the beaches and fishing conditions this year.
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08-23-2011, 02:09 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparfish
Bottom draggers have decimated the beaches and fishing conditions this year.
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And how does a hurricane improve any negative impacts from this?
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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08-23-2011, 02:15 PM
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Location: NorthKingstown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
And how does a hurricane improve any negative impacts from this?
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Such a high volume of moving water can move it all else where, like up on shore or up/down the coast. Seen it happen in the past, where big storms have cleaned out the water. Not exactly sure where it goes, as long as it isn't around my stompin' grounds. A guy can hope can't they?
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08-23-2011, 02:21 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Do you really think that the same water is sitting in the same locations along the south shore throughout the seasons? Last time I checked we have tides, waves and wind-driven currents outside of hurricanes...
I think you are observing changes in bait patterns after a storm...
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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