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11-02-2011, 10:31 PM
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Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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Gear...
I'll start with tip ups ... I' own about 50 give or take... the ones i use the most are home made...made from rock maple, I have two styles, cross arm, which are my standard and two parellel arm deep snow traps i use exclusivly on Lake Winnipisauki when I'm not jigging laker and am fishing for rainbows...
The spools were original 40 ups... I took them appart, and drilled them out to take a 3/8 brass plated lamp pipe... they are bolted together and run on plastic bushings( drinking straws) that ride on a 1/4 -20 bolt, spool tension is adjusted with a self locking nut... they hold 300 yards of line( 250 backing 50 dacron)... it makes them heavy and very smoothe.. they trip easily .. but are adjustable for large bait because of the self locking nut... I originaly made my own triggers.. but keeping them lubed and working in cold weather proved to be problematic, so I bought triggers from jack trap...it mightbe the smartest thing I ever did...
I have fitted all the spools with cork that now comes standard on Heritage laker traps... I started glueing cork to my spools 30 years ago... I used to cut rounds from the rolled gasket material... and glue it with weather strip adhesive.. now you can buy them cut to size with adhesive backing... I could have been rich!...
you will also otice ( when I post picutes of the tip ups) that I tape the bottom... it is a trick I learned as a youngster from an old timer long since departed... what it does is attrack the sun... so they dont freeze in...not even on the coldest day as long as there is sun... even at night or on cloudy days, ice knocks off of the tape alot eaiser than it does painted or bare wood...
why so many spools one might ask... it makes it aot eaiser to target differant species on the same outing... and it sure beats tieing anew leader when you cut off a hoook or have to untngle a mess made by a slime dart that decided to run to the flemish cap!
Last edited by Rockfish9; 11-03-2011 at 06:24 AM..
Reason: spelling mistakes.. doubt i got them all
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11-02-2011, 10:45 PM
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picutred left to right.. first a pair of two differant style of Polar tip up,made by Frabil.. I'm not in love with them.. I own 5 of each.. they serve their purpose on days when it's blowing a gale and you HAVE to fish( derby time)... some like them..as I said.. not a fan...
Next from left to right, aformentioned polar tip up...this particular one covers the hole... they do a good job of keeping blowing snow out of the hole.. and are virtualy impossible to trip by accident ( wind)
next is a home made deep snow parrell bar tip up... besides that is the old stand by 40 up... I've modified them to take my re-built spools and added blocks to the feet so they do not rock ( normaly you wold shim one crss bar with ice or snow) these live in my pack basket and are only called upon during deep snow missions...
to the right of the 40 up is a home made cross bar style trap ( the ones in the rocket launcher from the gear thread)... these are the ones I use the most.... next to that is a cusk devise... these are a fixed line that rests on the bottom... they contian no revolving spool and are set out for burbot ( also called cusk or eel pout) a fresh water cousin of the cod...
Last edited by Rockfish9; 11-03-2011 at 06:26 AM..
Reason: more spelling.. and I wasn't drinking!
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11-02-2011, 11:12 PM
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Ice cutting devises and scoops
I've used many different methods in the 50 years I have been icefishng ( my dad started me @ 5)... an axe and home made spud fashoned from a rake handle.. hose clamps and a tire iron being the first.... I've used chain saws ( mainly when netting bait)... I had a wonderfull spud tha I made by welding a section of truck spring to a solid length of iron pipe.. it was heavy but took little effort to cut as long as it was kept sharp.. I've had the old cup type augers... a 10" "T" handle" "man killer" hand auger and an old 8" Mora hand auger.. all have been passed along to the junk man or some one younger and stronger...
I bought my first power Auger when I turned 40... it was a 3 hp jiffy ..it was a loud, heavy lumbering beast that could blast a 10" hole through 30" of ice in just a few short minutes... after a little more than a decade of dragging that 33lb hulk onto the ice ( along with 100lb of other gear) I decided that I needed to once agian go lighter... I bought a 21lb 2 HP model that hogs out an 8" hole... more than enough for just about anything I ( or most people ) will catch through the ice.. If I lived in Vermont,and still fished Champlain regualrly I'd opt for the 10" 3 HP... around here .. it's more auger than I'll eve need and it's QUIET....
I also own a mills lac ( made by Jiffy) spud.. seeing as my beautiful home made one ended up on the bottom of the exeter river during a smelt shack rescue mission...
I curruntly own two hand augers... two piece strike master that lives in the deep snow basket... and i recently bought a Nils master.. both are 8"... I heard all kinds of good things about the nils... truthfully it isnt much eaiser than the strike master.. and it's alot more money... I just happend to buy mine at a reduced price that will never be offered again...the blades on the strike master are replaceable and can be sharpened or bought localy... you have to ship the Nils away to get it sharpend..
pictured with them are a pair of slush scoops.. both have an ice chipping devise on the ends.. very handy for clearing ice from the rims of the hole on very cold days... also pictured is a small plastic shovel... i find this a great aid in clearing around the hole to keep frozen slush and snow form possible snagging a line and costing me a fish..
I'l get into terminal tackel tomorrow night... it's time to hit the rack..... if I was bass fishing..I'd be thinking one more drift....it's only November and I've allready turned into a wuss!
Last edited by Rockfish9; 11-03-2011 at 06:06 AM..
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11-03-2011, 06:17 AM
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You are slightly insane!!!!! Great info....I just started last year, that info would have been useful...I had no idea what to buy. Thanks for taking the time to post all that.
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11-03-2011, 06:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saltyric
You are slightly insane!!!!! Great info....I just started last year, that info would have been useful...I had no idea what to buy. Thanks for taking the time to post all that.
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I've been called worse... there is ALOT more to come.. stay tuned..
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11-03-2011, 07:09 AM
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Thanks for doing this Joe, looks like I got a few new things to try this year. What kind of tape do you use for the bottom of the tip-ups?
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11-03-2011, 07:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by t.orlando
Thanks for doing this Joe, looks like I got a few new things to try this year. What kind of tape do you use for the bottom of the tip-ups?
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3 M brand electical .. buy the good stuff. the chaeper vinal tends to get brittle in the cold... the adhesive is not as good either...
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11-03-2011, 07:54 AM
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Dumb question but what is the Electrical tape for on the Tip ups
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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11-03-2011, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Dumb question but what is the Electrical tape for on the Tip ups
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you didnt read.... I told youuuuuu .. the black attracks heat from the sun( ever notice how a leave melts into the ice.. same principle)... thus the trap does not freeze in even if there is a filtered sun( uv rays)... and even at night or on cloudy days.. the ice breaks away freely.. unlike bare wood that builds thick layers of ice each time you clear the hole...
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11-03-2011, 08:34 AM
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DOH!!!!Thats what I get for doing the Evelyn Wood speed reading thing on the thread.
That will be going on my tipups this week 
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11-03-2011, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
DOH!!!!Thats what I get for doing the Evelyn Wood speed reading thing on the thread.
That will be going on my tipups this week 
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not an issue.. been guilty of that more times than I want to admit.... I'm sure the question will be posed a dozen more time... and I'll answer it... a dozen more times..
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11-03-2011, 10:57 AM
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Not Jack
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Other Cape
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Why is there tape on the tipups?
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11-03-2011, 11:03 AM
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A good run is better than a bad stand!
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11-03-2011, 11:11 AM
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One in every crowd
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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11-03-2011, 11:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
One in every crowd
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Sometimes two. 
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The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
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11-03-2011, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBo
Sometimes two. 
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Sometimes there is no end in sight 
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11-03-2011, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Sometimes there is no end in sight 
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In that case... all those wannabe wise guys.. kindly note the misseltoe pinned to my backside... 
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11-03-2011, 11:52 AM
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Not Jack
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Other Cape
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C'mon, I had to!
Great idea though. One thing I do with my flags is add a few flyers of black electrical tape to them. I feel like it contrasts much better when there's snow on the ice, easier to spot.
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11-04-2011, 07:38 AM
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Great Post Joe!!
Reminds me of my youth growing up on lake champlain. My first ice rod was a tip off an old diawa rod, a dowel, and a few screws to wrap the line around and I modified it by running a guitar string at the tip, sort of like a built it strike indicator. I got to get back up there, and grab my hand auger and gear from my dad.
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60 % of the time, it works every time.
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11-05-2011, 11:06 AM
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Lots of good info for old timers as well as newbeez.
Quick question: Have you had your Nils auger sharpened yet? And if so, where & how much $$?
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11-07-2011, 07:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thortum
Lots of good info for old timers as well as newbeez.
Quick question: Have you had your Nils auger sharpened yet? And if so, where & how much $$?
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no.... I havent had it shatrpened yet..
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11-07-2011, 09:27 PM
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Yes, lots of great info. I definitely will be tweaking a few things and packing things a little more efficiently.
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