lures vs. bait

[canalfisher]

the last few years i have focused more on casting lures then bait. i;m really hooked .this year i have gotten back to bait also. i have noticed larger fish. how does everyone feel about this. thanx.

[BigFish]

100% wooden lures for me! Its just how I like to fish!

[fishbones]

There's a time and a place for both, depending on conditions.
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[the point]

Originally Posted by fishbones

There's a time and a place for both, depending on conditions.
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Agreed
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[iamskippy]

Originally Posted by the point

Agreed
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Agreed on the agreed
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[chefchris401]

Originally Posted by iamskippy

Agreed on the agreed
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Triple agreed.

I'm not a big bait guy, whether it's chunking or throwing eels.

But certain times of year when throwing bait will produce bigger and mOre fish.

I like throwing clam bellies after a big blow on the sand beaches.

But I love plugging and throwing rigged eels.

Bait for me is time and location game only.

Whatever works for you, is the best option.
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[Green Light]

Originally Posted by fishbones

There's a time and a place for both, depending on conditions.
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Amen!

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by fishbones

There's a time and a place for both, depending on conditions.
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Yup.
Bait is for when you are learning to catch large fish and plugs for when you know how to catch large fish.
A time and place for everything.

Eels, of course, are for those who are really bad learners.
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[spinncognito]

I went from all bait to all lures and have now settled into a pattern of mostly lures with occasional bait. My thing is when I do indeed use bait I use it "like a lure"- meaning whole baits ripped or twitched to induce a strike. It is the best of both worlds in a real challenge from shore. My two biggest fish this season were caught using this method, one with a whole mac and the other a whole squid (my PB)

[iamskippy]

Originally Posted by numbskull

A time and place for everything.

Eels, of course, are for those who are really bad learners.
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Hahhahahahahaha Numby this just maybe my new sig
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[DZ]

People ask me, "What's the difference between using plugs and eels?"

Answer, "About 10 pounds on average."

DZ

[Clogston29]

Originally Posted by numbskull

Yup.
Bait is for when you are learning to catch large fish and plugs for when you know how to catch large fish (but prefer to catch smaller ones ).
A time and place for everything.

Eels, of course, are for those who are really bad learners.
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plugs are more fun. eels are more productive, on larger fish anyway.

i usually only fish eels when I think I have a shot at some big fish, otherwise its just too boring (i like catching on eels, not fishing them).

riggies are a nice compromise, as much fun to fish as a plug and give you a good chance at big fish, but its alittle more mindless than plugging as there aren't as many decisions to be made. drawback is that, like most plugs, they can't match eels in deeper water. Also, the time spent making a bunch of well-made riggies is not exactly enjoyable.

[JohnnySaxatilis]

Its funny there's one beach around here where everyone fishes their own fresh caught sand eels on a hi-lo rig no matter what and drink miller lite. if you bust out a plug, ppl look at you like you're a leper. Not a mile down the shore line, everyone plugs ronz's with a 1oz jig head, if you do anything else, ppl look at you like you're a leper

I find plugging a beach and getting one or two fish, watching the strike happen and learning how to present a variety of plugs correctly is a whole lot more enjoyable than rigging a hi-lo with a piece of skinking bait, putting it in a sand spike, and waiting till it does something. probly get more fish on average, but its not as fun to me

[Albie1guy]

Fished a lot of bait and caught a lot of large. Nauset beach was a sea worm beach.

[Poncho]

Originally Posted by numbskull

Yup.
Bait is for when you are learning to catch large fish and plugs for when you know how to catch large fish.
A time and place for everything.

Eels, of course, are for those who are really bad learners.
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A very dumb statment from a very smart man. numbskull we have a mutal friend from this site who tells me you are a smart man and a good fisherman but I highly disagree with your statment

[ProfessorM]

Originally Posted by Poncho

A very dumb statment from a very smart man. numbskull we have a mutal friend from this site who tells me you are a smart man and a good fisherman but I highly disagree with your statment

I disagree too but don't listen to Alan he is jealous of Numby's plug prowess.

Now that I have defended your honor take me plugging so I can remember what it is like to catch a fish on something other than bait.
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[numbskull]

Originally Posted by Poncho

A very dumb statment from a very smart man. numbskull we have a mutal friend from this site who tells me you are a smart man and a good fisherman but I highly disagree with your statment

Sadly, I'm not as smart as I was yesterday, nor as dumb as I'll be tomorrow, so when it comes to eels it is best not to take me too seriously.
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[Van]

What is this plug thing of which you speak?


Same answear I give year after year on similar posts.

[DZ]

Originally Posted by numbskull

Yup.
Bait is for when you are learning to catch large fish and plugs for when you know how to catch large fish.
A time and place for everything.

Eels, of course, are for those who are really bad learners.
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Poor Alan. He can't catch a break fishing with Numby. I love their banter at each other. They both stopped at the Salt Water Edge shop last Saturday while I was there working. George, as always, riding Alan about cheating with eels. But Alan and I got the last rib at George when we noticed he was taking steps toward the dark side of eel fishing when he purchased "Smelly Jelly" to smear on his plugs. Probably eel scented. Was great to see you guys!

DZ

[piemma]

Originally Posted by fishbones

There's a time and a place for both, depending on conditions.
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Bingo!!!!

[The Dad Fisherman]

Whatever the fish wants is what I want to give them....I just wish they'd tell me in advance

[afterhours]

i like fishing plugs at this stage of my life. back in the day i caught many large fish on bait (including my biggest which bottomed out a chattilon 50) that did'nt count - on my boat .

[doc]

wooden plugs on top...hard for me to fish other things...

[Jackbass]

I have never really fished bait. I know I am missing out. But the idea of sitting in a chair with a sand spike in front of me makes me want to up my Dosage of Ritalin. I can barely keep one plug on the line for more than 10 casts. Never mind waiting for
A fish to
Find my bait.
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[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Jackbass

I have never really fished bait. I know I am missing out. But the idea of sitting in a chair with a sand spike in front of me makes me want to up my Dosage of Ritalin. I can barely keep one plug on the line for more than 10 casts. Never mind waiting for
A fish to
Find my bait.
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Why not do both? Any time I fish bait off the bottom, I also cast plugs to fish up in the water column.

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Why not do both? Any time I fish bait off the bottom, I also cast plugs to fish up in the water column.

Not a bad idea I suppose. I generally only fish nights and hang with the family on the beach during the day so bait would probably be a good idea if I were to fish during the day.
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[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Jackbass

Not a bad idea I suppose. I generally only fish nights and hang with the family on the beach during the day so bait would probably be a good idea if I were to fish during the day.
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Tossing bait is great on the family beach trips. Not so much this year, but in the past we would regularly drive out on the Race for some family fun time - cookout, campfire, beach sports. A few of us would bring a rod each, toss some sand eels and go socialize. If a rod went off, great.

Also if there was somewhat steady action, it was a chance for people to reel in a fish that may not have a chance otherwise. My fiancee blames her dad and his family beach and boat trips for sowing the seeds of what is now my addiction.

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Tossing bait is great on the family beach trips. Not so much this year, but in the past we would regularly drive out on the Race for some family fun time - cookout, campfire, beach sports. A few of us would bring a rod each, toss some sand eels and go socialize. If a rod went off, great.

Also if there was somewhat steady action, it was a chance for people to reel in a fish that may not have a chance otherwise. My fiancee blames her dad and his family beach and boat trips for sowing the seeds of what is now my addiction.

If you are ever out there and see a black F 150 with an SB sticker on it say hi. I am out there most weekends.
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[JohnnyD]

I'd guess fresh bait (live or freshly killed) when used correctly beats artificial lures greater than 2-to-1 for getting big fish. Go out to the race or the backside and it's probably a 10-fold difference (on the rare occasion there are any fish around).

[MAKAI]

Pre-pinnipeds I liked dragging fresh sand eels at night on single dropper. Especially when it was gnarly. Stupid effective on big fish when you couldn't plug or eel. Fresh raked was key. Not 3 day old crap.
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