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10-12-2013, 08:41 AM
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Formerly the_shocker
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super strike darters
what size hooks do you put on them?
last year i put on 3/0 4x strong VMC trebles. this year i put 4/0 4x strong VMC's on. didn't notice a huge difference... maybe they got down a little deeper. i was thinking of switching to 4/0 6x strong VMC's after a fish straightened out the 4x strong one's.
i guess my question is does it matter when you fish darters? like how putting heavy hooks on some swimmers will kill the action of the plug.
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10-12-2013, 08:47 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
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My brother changed to 6x on his north bars and the action remained the same. NBs have a bit more action than the SS bottle though. I don't think the SS darter would swim at all with 6x. I can't seem to make them swim right of the package.
Seems like VMC hooks have gone to chit. Almost everyone I know has lost nice fish to straightened hooks this year.
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10-12-2013, 09:29 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
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VMC 3/0 6X front and back with split rings. I have messed around with many different arrangements over the years and have finally settled on this set-up. Landed fish to the high 40-pound class on this configuration without any problems this year.
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10-12-2013, 09:41 AM
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i have a good friend who swears by 5/0 with splits front and back and has multiple 40's, 5 50's and a 60...just a thought
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10-12-2013, 09:56 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jon2465
i have a good friend who swears by 5/0 with splits front and back and has multiple 40's, 5 50's and a 60...just a thought
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He has that score on the darter, or just in general? |
Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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10-12-2013, 10:06 AM
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Pete K.
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He would be the super strike poster boy...
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10-12-2013, 10:18 AM
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Chris Blouin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Warren, RI
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6x 3/0 on front with a split ring and 4x 3/0 on the rear with a split ring and crushed barbs
Is how mine are rigged
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10-12-2013, 11:21 AM
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Formerly the_shocker
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thanks. i may get some of the 3/0 6x VMC's and give it a go.
anyone use that set up on the northbar bottle darters too?
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10-12-2013, 11:46 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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4x VMCs are nowhere near as good as they used to be. Use 6x.
As far as 4/0 or 5/0, my opinion is that it won't make a difference with darters. Darters don't have a lot of swimming action. What you want a darter to do is dig and sweep side to side, and not ride up in the current. Heavier hooks might actually help. That being said, my darters have 4/0 6x trebles on the belly, and a tinned (not stainless) single on the back. Mustad stainless hooks have become extremely brittle. I hardly ever hook a bass on the tail hook anyway with darters.
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10-12-2013, 01:09 PM
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Great White Scup Hunter
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by american spirit
thanks. i may get some of the 3/0 6x VMC's and give it a go.
anyone use that set up on the northbar bottle darters too?
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SS. Same as T~
NB.
4/0 6x front and 3/0 6x rear. Never an issue. Load those NB's too. Once I fished my factory loaded NB I loaded them all.
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10-13-2013, 02:40 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tlapinski
He has that score on the darter, or just in general?
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all but 2 of the 50,60's i believe point is it's the darter hook set up works with many different configurations |
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10-13-2013, 02:40 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Originally Posted by ivanputski
He would be the super strike poster boy...
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as a matter of fact he is lol |
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10-13-2013, 06:20 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Loading your NB's?? Same idea as loading redfins??
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10-13-2013, 06:56 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgie
Loading your NB's?? Same idea as loading redfins??
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Yes. Bump them up to 3 ounces and drop a set of 4/0 hooks on her. Much better plug in my opinion. |
Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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10-13-2013, 07:52 AM
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Registered User
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Thanks Toby. Do you go with water or lead??
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10-13-2013, 08:18 AM
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Great White Scup Hunter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgie
Thanks Toby. Do you go with water or lead??
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Water is fine. The very limited few factory loaded ones were loaded with mineral oil.
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10-13-2013, 08:25 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
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I load all my plugs with mineral oil. I find it doesn't evaporate and when fishing late into the fall there is no chance of it freezing and breaking the plug from the inside out. I have had that happen when I used to use water.  |
Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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10-15-2013, 07:50 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tlapinski
VMC 3/0 6X front and back with split rings. I have messed around with many different arrangements over the years and have finally settled on this set-up. Landed fish to the high 40-pound class on this configuration without any problems this year.
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Toby - which size splits are you using? triple rings?
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