Sec.Defense Hagel warns ISIS is-

[justplugit]

" Beyond anything we've ever seen."

"JV" and another round of golf, or back to Washington for a National Securities
meeting? What say you?

[CTSurfrat]

It amazes me how he can disregard the extreme criticizing he has been receiving from both sides of the aisle!

[iamskippy]

Originally Posted by CTSurfrat

It amazes me how he can disregard the extreme criticizing he has been receiving from both sides of the aisle!

It amazes me how hes still in office and or still alive.
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[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by iamskippy

It amazes me how hes still in office .
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U can not impeach him...he has the senate on his side.

why would the enemy want him out of the way?....he is doing a great job of weakening and destroying the country....he wants the military to pre world war 2 levels

the marjority of the country got what they wanted, "Change" and change he did....he held true to his promise...what a great guy....

[iamskippy]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

U can not impeach him...he has the senate on his side.

why would the enemy want him out of the way?....he is doing a great job of weakening and destroying the country....he wants the military to pre world war 2 levels

the marjority of the country got what they wanted, "Change" and change he did....he held true to his promise...what a great guy....

I am assuming that was riddled with sarcasm?
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[jonserfish]

nostradamus predicted we would be taken down by an insider

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by iamskippy

I am assuming that was riddled with sarcasm?
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YESSIR....

[JohnR]

He was voted for and succeeded twice. And like the previous administration (Bush), many comment that had things waited a little he would not have won reelection.

On a side note, I am somewhat glad Bush won his second go around rather than Kerry. Look how he is doing as SecState.

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by iamskippy

It amazes me how hes still in office and or still alive.
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One huge reason is the insurance policy he selected as Vice President. Father Time has not been kind to Joe Biden's brain. Not sure he would do much worse, but he would give it a good try for sure.

*Joe Biden -n- Father Time*

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by jonserfish

nostradamus predicted we would be taken down by an insider

If we go down he would not be far from the truth. We have these sleeper cells well entrenched in our country that can peck away at us whenever they want.
Some members of the cells in Europe have US passports and can move around pretty much the way they want.
Our Southern border is basically open to anyone. This is a well heeled determined group wanting to take over any country that doesn't believe the way they do. This is no joke.

I'm sure they were shaking in there boots after O gave his speech and went back on the links.

[jonserfish]

isis and the mexican border is a scary scenario

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by jonserfish

isis and the mexican border is a scary scenario

NAH!....when they come over the border and realise the welfare benefits they will throw down their weapons and forget about the 72 virgins.....

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by justplugit

" Beyond anything we've ever seen."

"JV" and another round of golf, or back to Washington for a National Securities
meeting? What say you?

Giving them a warning, is baiting the hook if I have ever seen it done before its been done now.

[Raven]

might gain access to whats stored in Syria

basically Sadami 's treasure trove of chemical weaponry

thats the problem that boots on the ground nor explosions can cure

[afterhours]

we have to whack hard them at every opportunity before it's gets any later in the game. these sobs' are the beigest threat to humanity and it's snowballing. fork politics and bring out the big sticks. oh I wish we had competent leadership in place.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by afterhours

we have to whack hard them at every opportunity before it's gets any later in the game. these sobs' are the beigest threat to humanity and it's snowballing.

If they were bombed at the time they were crossing the border from Syria,
it would have weakened them and given us time to destroy the armament they captured that was left behind.
This has become the problem it is because there was no strategy planned to handle the inevitable. Someone was asleep at the switch or the same old same old wait and see and hope it goes away, or both.
No Leadership here, and now we are in a bind.
Where are all the Libs on this now?

[nightfighter]

Islamic State is an Al Qaeda splinter group. The Nusra Front and ISIS were once a single organization, but the groups split over ideological and tactical differences, with ISIS going its own way and Nusra remaining loyal to Al Qaeda’s central command. One of the issues that divided them was the acceptable level of brutality. Since the split, Al Qaeda has criticized the unrestrained attacks by the Sunni militants of ISIS against Shiite Muslims, as well as their attacks on Christian villages.
In sum, the worst of the worst.......

[afterhours]

wtf? what's he smoking?...some of barrys good stuff?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...commend-syria/

[Fly Rod]

typical American strategy...wait till Americans R killed on the homeland before reaction

kill them now.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by afterhours

wtf? what's he smoking?...some of barrys good stuff?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...commend-syria/

Yes, let's wait until they take over more territory and cities where they can use more human shields and we need ground house to house fighting. Or maybe wait till they get their hands on existing chemical weapons, kill the 20 American hostages and shoot up our malls, shoot up our military bases, and cause havoc
in our cities or just wait for an apoptaliptic ending.

At the very least we need to bring in NATO, with Turkey, Jordan and the Kurds doing the major fighting to cut off the head of the snake now, supported with heavy air strikes, special ops and another carrier group in the area.
We have had 2 years to make a strategic plan. Last week Dempsey said we would need to bomb Syria to defeat them. Now he has down played it.
What is the plan?

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by afterhours

wtf? what's he smoking?...some of barrys good stuff?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...commend-syria/

Translation. THE MOMENT they take over oil fields.... KABLAM!!!!!! :fin:

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Translation. THE MOMENT they take over oil fields.... KABLAM!!!!!! :fin:

I've read where black market oil is a major contributor to their cause bringing in anywhere from $2-5 million dollars a day. If we had started drilling and fracking in the prohibited areas 5 years ago we would be close to energy independence and it wouldn't be an issue.
Their issue here is no different then it always was, kill people who have a different believe than they do.

[Nebe]

I'm all for wiping them off the planet..
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[nightfighter]

CBS news tonight reported that they have dozens of American sympathizers who have joined their ranks.... Only a matter of time before they come back with their missions....... One could only hope that we (Congress) change the rules of engagement and allow US forces to target any combatant who has effectively renounced their American loyalties by fighting under the flag of Islam State.

[afterhours]

[QUOTE=justplugit;1050101]I've read where black market oil is a major contributor to their cause bringing in anywhere from $2-5 million dollars a day.


ummmh...maybe we should disable that capability????? duh..

[justplugit]

Yes ,and while we're at it, go back to calling it what it really is, a War on Global Terror rather than an Overseas Contingency Operation and bringing back the culprits to the US for trial.

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

CBS news tonight reported that they have dozens of American sympathizers who have joined their ranks.... Only a matter of time before they come back with their missions....... One could only hope that we (Congress) change the rules of engagement and allow US forces to target any combatant who has effectively renounced their American loyalties by fighting under the flag of Islam State.

AGREED!!!.....

[nightfighter]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/world/...led/index.html

Second American jihadi kia.... Are there dozens, hundreds? Interesting how the State Department notified the family....who had no idea????

[jonserfish]

WWIII

[Raven]

Originally Posted by justplugit

I've read where black market oil is a major contributor to their cause bringing in anywhere from $2-5 million dollars a day..

i would think it was CHINA or North Korea buying that oil