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Old 05-06-2015, 12:35 AM   #1
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Pink leader?

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Is somebody knows what a reason to use pink fluorocarbon leader?
I read that nicks on the pink FC not so visible like on clear. But leader should be checked for absence of nicks before casting otherwise you are have a risk to loose fish. And it is not sure that "shiny" nick could spook the fish.
Yes, red color is first that "disappear" under water and pink "disappearing" even early.
But at first, red not disappear - it became black (loosing color), so pink should became grey that visible.
In any case clear is clear.
What are the real advantages of pink?
May be tinted lines has been appeared because there are some difficulties to get really clear line and color using for masking?
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Old 05-06-2015, 05:24 AM   #2
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I think that whole Floru/color is a bunch of BS. I have used Stern and Ande leaders all my life and never had a problem catching fish.

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Old 05-06-2015, 06:19 AM   #3
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I think that whole Floru/color is a bunch of BS. I have used Stern and Ande leaders all my life and never had a problem catching fish.
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Old 05-06-2015, 09:46 AM   #4
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The only time I've heard it (Fluoro) can make a difference was for the guys fishing the Monomoy Sand Flats during daylight. It does make a huge difference in certain freshwater applications such as steelhead in cold clear water. Whether pink fluoro makes a difference from clear fluoro is beyond my experience.

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Old 05-06-2015, 11:24 AM   #5
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I think that whole Floru/color is a bunch of BS. I have used Stern and Ande leaders all my life and never had a problem catching fish.
X2 60# plugging , 80# jigging and down to 20# while eeling on those full moon nights.

Does your incessant whining make you feel better? How about you just shut the hell up and suck it up? It's a fishing forum , so please just stop.
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:55 AM   #6
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I have never, and will never use fluoro while surfcasting at night.

I'm not convinced it matters.

Also, due to its high cost, I would likely use leaders longer than I should and lose a fish. I use 50 and 60# ande mono and I change my leaders out OFTEN. I never use a leader from the night before either. always fresh leader, fresh knot.
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:50 PM   #7
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In clear water during the day if you are using mono instead of fluro your hook up ratio will go WAY down. I have tested it side by side when fish were plentiful and biting. Plain and simple, fish can see mono in the daylight better than fluro. Not a question in my mind.

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the difference is day and night..






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Old 05-06-2015, 03:29 PM   #9
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If flouro means putting 1 more fish up on the rocks or deck over the course of a season Im going with it.

Have used the yozuri pink with no ill effects. #80

$1200-800 reels
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Im not going to save anything by not spending the $24-30 on flouro.

If you believe that youre saving money by not using flouro ive got a bridge for sale ln jamestown, its fairly new and has ony had 1 owner.


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Old 05-06-2015, 04:45 PM   #10
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I've tested a lot of fluorocarbon lines last time from#20 to #40. Mainly Seaguar but also Ande, P-line, pink Yo-Zury and before Vanish.
All of them have shown stencil strength 20-40% less vs. stated on label. Especially on the knots. (I've used Trilene, Palomar or Uni knots very carefully tied). Only Trick Fish (Former Triple Fish) #25 has shown 22lb strength.
May be FC has some advantages like heavy weight and (sometimes) invisibility but for me strength more important.
I've switch to Maxima an have no problem.
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Old 05-07-2015, 12:33 PM   #11
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If flouro means putting 1 more fish up on the rocks or deck over the course of a season Im going with it.

Have used the yozuri pink with no ill effects. #80

$1200-800 reels
$400 rods
$289 waders

Im not going to save anything by not spending the $24-30 on flouro.

If you believe that youre saving money by not using flouro ive got a bridge for sale ln jamestown, its fairly new and has ony had 1 owner.


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Vic, with me it has nothing at all to do with cost. I have tried a number of Flouros on the market over the years. maybe it makes a difference when fishing in daylight. I wouldn't know. When Oakley and I fished the surf together we never wet a line in daylight. Vampires we were.
Now, in the boat and at the Canal I fish strictly at night. I have not seen nor experience any empirical evidence that says Flouro is better at night.

No boat, back in the suds.
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Old 05-07-2015, 05:53 AM   #12
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there's a reason the tuna guys use flouro.

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Old 05-07-2015, 07:17 AM   #13
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Ing4 - Your breaking strength is being lowered because you arent lubricating your knots. Cinch them wet and re-run you "last time tests." Hot knots are going to fail easier, sometimes you want them to fail bottom fishing for example i dont lubricate my loop knot for my sinker, i want that to fail. Dropper loops off that same rig, hell yeah i wet em, i dont want those to fail. The sinker knot breaking easily saves trouble 😉
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Old 05-07-2015, 11:53 PM   #14
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Ing4 - Your breaking strength is being lowered because you arent lubricating your knots. Cinch them wet and re-run you "last time tests." Hot knots are going to fail easier, sometimes you want them to fail bottom fishing for example i dont lubricate my loop knot for my sinker, i want that to fail. Dropper loops off that same rig, hell yeah i wet em, i dont want those to fail. The sinker knot breaking easily saves trouble ��
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I am tying knots religiously accurately. I am moisturizing them plenty pull slow and watching how knot tying accurately. No overlaps or kinks. Test where repeated multiple times and results averaged. Spring scale is calibrated. I think that FC really weaker then stated. Especially numbers over #20. Just not too much people making tests. For them it is enough that big fish was landed. So, the line is OK. If not - there are a lot of excuses: knots, brakes etc...
I would like to remind kindly: initial question was about pink FC.
Very interesting discussion about that matter:
http://charkbait.evecommunity.com/ev...2/m/3861032083

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Old 05-07-2015, 09:13 AM   #15
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There are plenty of scenarios where i think fluoro gives a huge advantage.

but i'm just not sold that it matters at all at night in the surf (which is pretty much all i care about).

To each his own.
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