Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

     

Left Nav S-B Home Register FAQ Members List S-B on Facebook Arcade WEAX Tides Buoys Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Right Nav

Left Container Right Container
 

Go Back   Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating Ľ Striper Chat - Discuss stuff other than fishing ~ The Scuppers and Political talk Ľ Political Threads

Political Threads This section is for Political Threads - Enter at your own risk. If you say you don't want to see what someone posts - don't read it :hihi:

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 02-19-2016, 06:56 AM   #1
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 6,252
Hilary tells CNN she has never lied to the public

Something about coming under sniper attack, despite video that makes that laughably false. If she claims that was not a lie, that necessarily means she still believes it to be true. Which necessarily means that she is deranged and delusional.

Spence?
Jim in CT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2016, 07:08 AM   #2
buckman
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
buckman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 4,834
Blog Entries: 1
Pathological liars just dig them selves deeper. They will never admit that they lied.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
buckman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2016, 09:04 AM   #3
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 6,252
I'm impressed that a reporter, other than one at Foxnews, would have the professionalism to ask her that. She musy have wanted to kill that guy.
Jim in CT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2016, 09:10 AM   #4
PaulS
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
PaulS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,667
Didnít she apologize for saying that?

What do you think about independent Polifact rating ALL of the Repub. Candidates as being less truthful than ALL of the Dem. candidates?
PaulS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2016, 09:12 AM   #5
PaulS
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
PaulS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,667
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT View Post
I'm impressed that a reporter, other than one at Foxnews, would have the professionalism to ask her that..
Good one - got my laugh for the day.
PaulS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2016, 11:22 AM   #6
Fishpart
Keep The Change
iTrader: (0)
 
Fishpart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Road to Serfdom
Posts: 3,232
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS View Post
Didnít she apologize for saying that?

What do you think about independent Polifact rating ALL of the Repub. Candidates as being less truthful than ALL of the Dem. candidates?
Independent and Politifact should not be used in the same sentence.

ďItís not up to the courts to invent new minorities that get special protections,Ē Antonin Scalia
Fishpart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2016, 11:33 AM   #7
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 6,252
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS View Post
Didnít she apologize for saying that?

What do you think about independent Polifact rating ALL of the Repub. Candidates as being less truthful than ALL of the Dem. candidates?
"Didnít she apologize for saying that?"

I don't know. What I do know, is that she just went on TV this week, looked a reporter in th eye, and claimed that she has never lied.

"What do you think about independent Polifact rating ALL of the Repub. Candidates as being less truthful than ALL of the Dem. candidates"

Based on what? How do you measure that, exactly? If Rubio lies (or is wrong) about the exact date that his parents fled Cuba for the US, is that as pertinent as Hilary claiming that the GOP framed Bill to make it looked like he cheated on her with Monica, or that she came under sniper attack? And what's with her barking like a dog?

For the record, I can say out loud that I am not all that thrilled or impressed with much of the GOP field. Trump is a vulgar jerk. Cruz gets caught in a lie every day now, attacking the other Republicans. Rubio is showing (as Obama has repeatedly done) what happens when you support an inexperienced neophyte just because you like what's on the surface (more important to be cool and hip than to have depth).

I can't answer your question any more directly, can I? Now, what do you think of Hilary going on TV this week, and claiming that she has never told a lie? Obviously, she isn't all that sorry about the whoppers she has told (I was broke when I left the White House, blah blah blah).
Jim in CT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2016, 11:36 AM   #8
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 6,252
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS View Post
Good one - got my laugh for the day.
Again, brush it off, what not one syllable as to why my premise (all TV stations minus one are in the bag for the Democrats) is wrong.

After one debate, a moderator (the tough and objective Rachael Maddow) HUGGED the Democratic candidates. She hugged them. Read that again, and tell me I'm wrong. How is that any different than letting Sean Hannity moderate a debate?

Meanwhile, the GOP frontrunner, is complaining about the way he gets treated by Fox, ask Trump if he thinks they are too easy on him, or if he felt like a hug was inevitable after the Fox debate. Are there right-leaning hists at Fox? Of course. Is the bias as glaring or consistent as it is at CNN or MSNBC? Not in primetime. O-Reilly and Kelly are routinely tough on conservatives, and routinely tell liberals that they have a good point. Hannity is the right-wing equivalent of Rachael Maddow. That's why he's on at 10:00.
Jim in CT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2016, 11:37 AM   #9
PaulS
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
PaulS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,667
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishpart View Post
Independent and Politifact should not be used in the same sentence.
Then what independent org. do you want to use?
PaulS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2016, 11:42 AM   #10
PaulS
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
PaulS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,667
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT View Post
Again, brush it off, what not one syllable as to why my premise (all TV stations minus one are in the bag for the Democrats) is wrong.

After one debate, a moderator (the tough and objective Rachael Maddow) HUGGED the Democratic candidates. She hugged them. Read that again, and tell me I'm wrong. How is that any different than letting Sean Hannity moderate a debate?
Most newspapers and tv stations are based in the large cities and the large cities are liberal. But to claim that only Fox news is professional is a freakin joke.

I don't care if you are thrilled or not with the Repub. candidates. Just search for Polifact and read up on the lies. Did Carson really get accepted to WP? Did Trump really see people jumping from the WTC?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/op...ml?src=me&_r=0
PaulS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2016, 11:53 AM   #11
PaulS
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
PaulS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,667
Wayne Simmons - how many times was he on Fox news? A regular paragon of excellence.
PaulS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2016, 12:09 PM   #12
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 6,252
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS View Post
Most newspapers and tv stations are based in the large cities and the large cities are liberal. But to claim that only Fox news is professional is a freakin joke.

I don't care if you are thrilled or not with the Repub. candidates. Just search for Polifact and read up on the lies. Did Carson really get accepted to WP? Did Trump really see people jumping from the WTC?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/op...ml?src=me&_r=0
"Most newspapers and tv stations are based in the large cities and the large cities are liberal"

Those things are true. That doesn't mean it's an excuse for crappy journalism.

"But to claim that only Fox news is professional is a freakin joke. "

I think i said that I was surprised that anyone not at Fox, would ask her such a tough question. And I can support my suspicion thusly...of all the interviews she has done, how many times has she been asked about that sniper attack? How many times has she been asked why anyone in their right mind would believe that Bill didn't cheat on her, but was framed by the GOP? How many times has she been asked about all the crap that her/Bill pillaged on their way out of the White House? How many times has she been challenged on her idiotic notion that being anti-abortion is waging "war on women"? How many times has she been asked, why is it remotely democratic that Bernie clobbered her in NH, yet fell further behind because of the superdelegates she controls?

Fox (at least some at Fox, certainly not all) are willing to challenge Republicans by asking those types of hard-hitting questions.

"Did Carson really get accepted to WP?"

oh good lord. People objected to his use of the word "scholarship", which it turns out was on posters at the time. We have seen the posters with the word "scholarship". Has politifact confirmed that he was not offered admission by anyone? How would they go about confirming that, have they checked with everyone Carson has ever spoken to?

"Did Trump really see people jumping from the WTC?"

Here's the difference between us. I can say that because of the things he says, and the way he says them, that Trump isn't nearly qualified for the job. If he wins the nomination, I won't vote for him. I can say that, even though he's a Republican. You and Spence would never be able to say that about Clinton. She barked like a dog for Christs's sake, what was that? Is that any less pathetic, than what Trump does? Barking like a dog, and getting hugs from debate moderators? That's serious campaigning for the job of POTUS?

What does your beloved Politifact say about Hilary's claim that my side is waging "war on women"? She says that every single day, and unless it counts all those as lies (and I bet it doesn't!), let's just say I question the results of their "math".

I have to go now, I have to go slap my wife around, pipe-bomb the local planned parenthood, make a large donation to the Klan, clean my assault rifle, cheat on my tax return, poison some water in Michigan, fondle some altar boys, and watch Hee-Haw re-runs. According to Obama and Hilary, that's all we do.

Meanwhile, all the young college grads in CT are fleeing to liberal utopias like Florida, North Carolina, Texas, and Georgia.
Jim in CT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2016, 11:36 AM   #13
justplugit
Registered Grandpa
iTrader: (0)
 
justplugit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
Posts: 8,589
Quote:
Originally Posted by buckman View Post
Pathological liars just dig them selves deeper. They will never admit that they lied.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
She not only lies but makes deceptive things up as she goes along.
Video, under sniper fire, etc. etc. etc.

" Choose Life "
justplugit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2016, 04:53 PM   #14
PaulS
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
PaulS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,667
Quote:
Originally Posted by justplugit View Post
She not only lies but makes deceptive things up as she goes along.
Video, under sniper fire, etc. etc. etc.
And yet the independent fact checkers all say all the Rep. Candidates are all more dishonest than all the Dem. candidates.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
PaulS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2016, 06:04 PM   #15
justplugit
Registered Grandpa
iTrader: (0)
 
justplugit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
Posts: 8,589
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS View Post
And yet the independent fact checkers all say all the Rep. Candidates are all more dishonest than all the Dem. candidates.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Paul, what were their sources, and what was the biggest Rep. whopper ?

" Choose Life "
justplugit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2016, 06:14 PM   #16
detbuch
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,646
Quote:
Originally Posted by justplugit View Post
Paul, what were their sources, and what was the biggest Rep. whopper ?
He keeps repeating "old news". Maybe he has some kind of tourettes.
detbuch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2016, 07:48 AM   #17
PaulS
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
PaulS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,667
Quote:
Originally Posted by justplugit View Post
Paul, what were their sources, and what was the biggest Rep. whopper ?
I am not sure. Do you know of any independent fact checker? Fishpart said they weren't independent so I'm hoping he lists someone he considers independent.

Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch View Post
He keeps repeating "old news". Maybe he has some kind of tourettes.
It might be a mild case of Tourettes. I would think constantly posting that Progressives hate the Constitution would be considered a severe case.
PaulS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2016, 09:43 AM   #18
Nebe
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Nebe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: newpawht
Posts: 19,431
When people say Hillary lies all the time they always site 3 examples. Sniper fire, Benghazi and that bill never cheated on her. Mum curious what all the time means and would like a list of more lies.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Nebe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2016, 10:08 AM   #19
The Dad Fisherman
Super Moderator
iTrader: (0)
 
The Dad Fisherman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 15,634
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe View Post
When people say Hillary lies all the time they always site 3 examples. Sniper fire, Benghazi and that bill never cheated on her. Mum curious what all the time means and would like a list of more lies.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
I never stored classified emails on an unsecure email server....

.....and I've always been a Yankees fan can be added to it
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
The Dad Fisherman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2016, 10:11 AM   #20
spence
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
spence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 16,703
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman View Post
I never stored classified emails on an unsecure email server....
That's not a lie.
spence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2016, 10:18 AM   #21
buckman
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
buckman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 4,834
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence View Post
That's not a lie.
1700 lies , so far . Probably another 50 or so with this Friday's coming dump
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
buckman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2016, 10:20 AM   #22
buckman
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
buckman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 4,834
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman View Post
I never stored classified emails on an unsecure email server....

.....and I've always been a Yankees fan can be added to it
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Don't forget she was named after sir Edmund Hillary Lmao . A sign of a pathological liar ... they lie about stuff that can be easily checked. They can't help themselves .
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
buckman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2016, 10:44 AM   #23
spence
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
spence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 16,703
Quote:
Originally Posted by buckman View Post
1700 lies , so far . Probably another 50 or so with this Friday's coming dump
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
I love it, so someone emails her a public newspaper article, it's classified years later and yet she's lying about having classified information.

That's a nice standard you're holding her to.
spence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2016, 11:11 AM   #24
buckman
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
buckman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 4,834
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence View Post
I love it, so someone emails her a public newspaper article, it's classified years later and yet she's lying about having classified information.

That's a nice standard you're holding her to.
You seem to know an awful lot about these classified emails . I wonder who else knows ?
You do realize this would not be a problem if she just followed the rules. Apparently she's too stupid
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
buckman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2016, 11:27 AM   #25
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 6,252
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe View Post
When people say Hillary lies all the time they always site 3 examples. Sniper fire, Benghazi and that bill never cheated on her. Mum curious what all the time means and would like a list of more lies.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
How about the lie that republicans are attacking women's health? She says that in every stump speech, I have heard her say that on 50 different occasions. Every single time, it's a lie.

She says that the GOP ony cares about the rich and the white. How is that? Oh, and they were broke when they left trhe White House

The ones you cited are the big ones, ones that ought to spell the end of any political career.

Her and Bill also stole everything out of the White Hous ethat wasn't nailed down, on their way out. They had to write a fat check to the National Park Service for the price of their loot. Neat trick for 2 people who were broke.

She's also undermining the entire concept of democracy, to take the nomination from your candidate via super-delegates..
Jim in CT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2016, 11:28 AM   #26
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 6,252
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence View Post
That's not a lie.
Still waiting patiently for your defense of the sniper attack claim.
Jim in CT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2016, 12:18 PM   #27
The Dad Fisherman
Super Moderator
iTrader: (0)
 
The Dad Fisherman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 15,634
Whitewater
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
The Dad Fisherman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2016, 01:02 PM   #28
spence
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
spence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 16,703
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT View Post
Still waiting patiently for your defense of the sniper attack claim.
Use the search button.
spence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2016, 01:13 PM   #29
spence
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
spence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 16,703
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman View Post
Whitewater
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Multiple investigations didn't indicate she wasn't honest. Didn't Ken Starr pretty much exonerate the Clintons on everything but the blue dress?
spence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2016, 01:30 PM   #30
justplugit
Registered Grandpa
iTrader: (0)
 
justplugit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
Posts: 8,589
One of the best whoppers was when she was running for NY Senate and wore a Yankee Cap saying she was always a Yankee fan as a little kid, even though she grew up in Illinois and claimed she was never a Chicago fan.

Video lie to parents of Benghazi heroes as they removed the slain heroes from the plane.

" Choose Life "
justplugit is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Please use all necessary and proper safety precautions. STAY SAFE Striper Talk Forums
Copyright 1998-20012 Striped-Bass.com