Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

     

Left Nav S-B Home Register FAQ Members List S-B on Facebook Arcade WEAX Tides Buoys Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Right Nav

Left Container Right Container
 

Go Back   Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating Main Forum TUNA & Big Game

TUNA & Big Game TUNA - Offshore Fishing for Tuna and Other Big Game

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-09-2016, 09:37 AM   #1
MakoMike
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
MakoMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 5,233
How In Trouble Are Bluefin Tuna, Really? Controversial Study Makes Waves

Bluefin tuna have been severely depleted by fishermen, and the fish have become a globally recognized poster child for the impacts of overfishing. Many chefs refuse to serve its rich, buttery flesh; many retailers no longer carry it; and consumers have become increasingly aware of the environmental costs associated with the bluefin fishery.

But a group of scientists is now making the case that Atlantic bluefin may be more resilient to fishing than commonly thought and perhaps better able to rebound from the species' depleted state. In a paper published Monday in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the researchers suggest that fishery managers reassess the western Atlantic bluefin's population, which could ultimately allow more of the fish to be caught.
Pacific bluefin tuna for sale for $2.99 per pound at the fish market in San Diego. That shockingly low price does not reflect the deeply threatened state of the bluefin population.
The Salt
Why Is This Fisherman Selling Threatened Bluefin Tuna For $2.99 A Pound?

The 10 co-authors, most of whom are scientists with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, say they've all but confirmed that bluefin tuna spawn in an area of the Atlantic Ocean previously suspected but not known to be a breeding ground. Not only that; the tuna spawning in this area off the Atlantic Coast are much younger and smaller than the age and size at which it was previously believed the fish become sexually mature, according to the scientists.

This, their paper claims, would make the western Atlantic bluefin tuna "less vulnerable to overexploitation and extinction than is currently estimated."

But the study is controversial. Several tuna researchers we spoke with warned that the results are preliminary, and it's much too soon to use them to guide how fisheries are managed.

"New science and new information is good. What one has to be careful of is attempting to manage the Atlantic bluefin population from a single study. The situation is always complex," says Amanda Nickson, director of global tuna conservation at the Pew Charitable Trusts.
The IUCN says the Atlantic bluefin tuna is endangered. Its stocks have declined globally between 29 percent and 51 percent over the past 21 to 39 years, according to the conservation group.
The Salt
Why Some Chefs Just Can't Quit Serving Bluefin Tuna

Ecologist, author and former tuna fisherman Carl Safina cautions that the research doesn't change how fishing has already impacted the Atlantic bluefin, which is listed as endangered by the International Union for Conservation of Nature Red List. The U.S. federal government considers the species overfished.

"If this is in fact true, that they're spawning in this area [in addition to the Gulf of Mexico] and it wasn't just a one-year occurrence, it's good to know that the potential for recovery is brighter than we would have thought. But it certainly doesn't mean they were less depleted than they've been," Safina tells The Salt.

And Duke University research scientist Andre Boustany, a bluefin expert who was not involved in the study, says the findings should be used cautiously.

If the current population of Atlantic bluefin of reproductive age is indeed larger than once believed, that would mean that, historically, there were a lot more spawning bluefin than once thought, Boustany says. And that means that goals for recovery of the Atlantic bluefin would have to be set at a higher level, he says.

"If we're trying to rebuild the population within a certain time frame, then we might need to actually reduce the amount of fish we're catching now," Boustany explains.

To produce their results, the researchers behind the PNAS paper dragged a fine-meshed plankton net through a portion of the coastal North Atlantic known as the Slope Sea in 2013. They captured dozens of bluefin tuna larvae no more than 5 or 6 days old. The site is far from known spawning areas in the Gulf of Mexico. That great distance, coupled with the slow speed of the ocean currents, meant only one thing, explains David Richardson, the study's lead author: These young tuna had been born in the immediate vicinity.

"It was very clear these fish had not come from the Gulf of Mexico," Richardson, a larval fish biologist with the NOAA's Northeast Fisheries Science Center, tells us. "It's just too far a distance."

Richardson and his colleagues have also analyzed the movements of adult bluefin tuna tagged with electronic transmitters by the Large Pelagics Research Center at the University of Massachusetts, Boston. The tracking data provided evidence that western Atlantic bluefin appear to begin spawning at a much younger age than previously believed, when they're about 5 years old, instead of 14 or 15.

"What we found in our tagging data is that really big bluefin swim through the Slope Sea really fast, in three or four days, whereas the smaller bluefin around 100 pounds to 400 or 500 pounds are staying in the Slope Sea for about a 20-day duration," he says. The suspicion, he elaborates, is that younger, smaller tuna are spawning in the Slope Sea. Then, when they become older and bigger, they begin spawning in the Gulf of Mexico.

This is significant, because species that don't reach sexual maturity until they're older are considered especially vulnerable to overfishing. That's because such fish may easily be caught years before they've spawned even once.

But if the western Atlantic bluefin are actually spawning much younger than once believed, that should be factored into population assessments, the study authors argue.

"Lowering the age at maturity will increase estimates of spawning stock biomass and will likely lead to higher estimates" of how much bluefin can be fished sustainably, their paper says.

Barbara Block, a marine biologist with the Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment, says the study is "interesting." But she says much more evidence is needed like actually seeing these sexually mature tuna in the Slope Sea before it can be concluded that Atlantic bluefin are spawning at a younger age and in a new region than believed before.

The researchers' conclusions that perhaps more bluefin can be caught also have Safina highly skeptical of their study, which he says looks like a ploy by fishery-friendly scientists to create a higher catch allowance for the Atlantic tuna fleet.

In an email exchange with The Salt, Safina writes, "[T]heir main concern is not recovery, not conservation, but how their findings can allow additional exploitation and more stress to be inflicted on a very beleaguered creature."

But Molly Lutcavage, a researcher at the University of Massachusetts, Boston and a co-author of the PNAS study, dismissed Safina as an "enviro bully" and an ideologue who ignores the science.

"You can't do good conservation without good science," she told us, responding to Safina's comments. In a post published Tuesday on Medium, she offers a vehement defense of her research.

****MakoMike****

Http://www.Makomania.net

Official S-B Sponsor
MakoMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2016, 09:49 AM   #2
Nebe
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Nebe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: newpawht
Posts: 19,544
Paid for by the North Atlantic tuna fishermans association.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Nebe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2016, 10:11 AM   #3
wdmso
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Somerset MA
Posts: 1,576
I read its bad in the mediterranean.. not very regulated
http://www.bbc.co.uk/oceans/location...ean/tuna.shtml
wdmso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2016, 02:48 PM   #4
big jay
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
big jay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: 14000 / 44031.5
Posts: 931
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe View Post
Paid for by the North Atlantic tuna fishermans association.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Worth a read for you:

https://medium.com/@Tuna/environment...5bd#.du7s2mrnj
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
big jay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2016, 04:22 PM   #5
Nebe
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Nebe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: newpawht
Posts: 19,544
Quote:
Originally Posted by big jay View Post
Worth a read for you:

https://medium.com/@Tuna/environment...5bd#.du7s2mrnj
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
That was a very good read! Thanks Jay
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Nebe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2016, 07:58 PM   #6
teezer
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
teezer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Portsmouth RI
Posts: 227
Good one Jay
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
teezer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2016, 02:07 PM   #7
wdmso
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Somerset MA
Posts: 1,576
from her own web site
Population Size
Atlantic Bluefin Tuna Population While it is likely that Atlantic bluefin tuna have been overfished for many years, the actual population size is unknown and has become a controversial issue. In 2010, the Center for Biological Diversity requested that Altantic bluefin tuna be listed as an endangered species.


Since 1993, Dr. Molly Lutcavage has been working with other scientists and tuna industry members to develop fishery-independent approaches for determining abundance of bluefin

I lean towards science but not science Paid for by any Industry trying to maintain their profit over sustainability
wdmso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2016, 09:25 AM   #8
MakoMike
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
MakoMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 5,233
Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso View Post
from her own web site
Population Size
Atlantic Bluefin Tuna Population While it is likely that Atlantic bluefin tuna have been overfished for many years, the actual population size is unknown and has become a controversial issue. In 2010, the Center for Biological Diversity requested that Altantic bluefin tuna be listed as an endangered species.


Since 1993, Dr. Molly Lutcavage has been working with other scientists and tuna industry members to develop fishery-independent approaches for determining abundance of bluefin

I lean towards science but not science Paid for by any Industry trying to maintain their profit over sustainability
She works for, is paid by and her projects are funded by NOAA. The other scientists she co-authored that paper with all work for NOAA.

****MakoMike****

Http://www.Makomania.net

Official S-B Sponsor
MakoMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2016, 09:49 AM   #9
RIROCKHOUND
Also known as OAK
iTrader: (0)
 
RIROCKHOUND's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 9,480
Quote:
Originally Posted by MakoMike View Post
She works for, is paid by and her projects are funded by NOAA. The other scientists she co-authored that paper with all work for NOAA.
The recent paper she published as co-author was in PNAS (Proceedings in Nat'l Academy of Sciences); kind of a big deal for nerds like us. Basically the highest standards of peer-review you probably find short of and equal to Science and Nature. This wasn't some op-ed in USA Today.....

Bryan

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
RIROCKHOUND is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2016, 10:05 AM   #10
ThrowingTimber
It's about respect baby!
iTrader: (0)
 
ThrowingTimber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,297
Blog Entries: 1
good reads
ThrowingTimber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2016, 07:41 PM   #11
clambo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Attleboro, Ma
Posts: 64
tuna trouble

I have met Molly Lutcavage and at a seminar had lunch with her and her guy Mike. I believe her to be totally committed to the study of Blue Fin tuna. she is dedicated and passionate and I don't believe for one minute she is in anybody's pocket. Maybe one should meet her and then make your opinion from personal experience.
clambo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin. Copyright 2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Please use all necessary and proper safety precautions. STAY SAFE Striper Talk Forums
Copyright 1998-20012 Striped-Bass.com