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09-01-2017, 02:36 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
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MA bass
Advisory: Commercial Striped Bass Fishery Closed MA
I think 25% of quota came from that ditch thingy, last I looked a couple weeks ago it was 70... Dah
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09-01-2017, 07:18 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,119
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ditch thingy
you mean the Fish Funnel
I hope fisheries managers realize what is going on as the quota took longer and longer to reach each year as the population of bass continues to crash.
game fish would be nice but I'm afraid there is too much corruption for that to be feasible
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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09-01-2017, 07:43 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
Posts: 8,543
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
ditch thingy
you mean the Fish Funnel
I hope fisheries managers realize what is going on as the quota took longer and longer to reach each year as the population of bass continues to crash.
game fish would be nice but I'm afraid there is too much corruption for that to be feasible
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09-01-2017, 08:14 PM
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Chris Blouin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Warren, RI
Posts: 3,330
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And the fact it was worth more than Tuna wholesale this year doesn't help
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09-02-2017, 12:18 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: guilford CT
Posts: 858
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I wish I knew the answer.... part of me says there's room for a commercial fishery to exist for bass. the other part of me says the other species have been made gamefish only despite having commercial value (snook and redfish come to mind) so maybe that's the way to go.
I've had this same discussion with others (and in my own head) for 2 decades...... still not sure what I think is best.
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09-02-2017, 02:21 PM
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User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 5,377
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Endorsement
Make bass limited entry, the people who have been catching and reporting faithfully the longest gets the permit...
Probably cut the permits down by half... Raise it to, say, 20 fish.... Could cut the quota in half maybe, give the sure guys more also if they qualify...
Beer makes me think I'm smart... :-)
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09-02-2017, 08:59 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,119
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Sorry Ray
I'll never agree to exclusivity for commercial fishing for only certain individuals. That is unAmerican in my eye.
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09-03-2017, 05:47 AM
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User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
Sorry Ray
I'll never agree to exclusivity for commercial fishing for only certain individuals. That is unAmerican in my eye.
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Ya! I know, it's a tough one...
How about a lottery?
Tog is headed that way, enforcement, just too many people on the planet, hey? |
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09-03-2017, 07:13 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,389
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Gamefish, can you imagine what the fishery would be like in ten years. I might be too arthritic to enjoy it, but my son would have a ball.
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09-03-2017, 08:23 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,555
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Gamefish, can you imagine what the fishery would be like in ten years. I might be too arthritic to enjoy it, but my son would have a ball.
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It will never happen.
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09-03-2017, 10:35 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,119
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At least a lottery would be more fair.
Tying eligibility to percentage of earned income is bullcrap
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09-03-2017, 11:29 AM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
At least a lottery would be more fair.
Tying eligibility to percentage of earned income is bullcrap
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A lottery maybe more fair, But they do a lottery up at Plum Island every year for ORV Permits and give out 85 to about 150 entries if your the guy who doesn't get a permit 3 years in a row in there mind it's not fair
This year they gave out 25 permits, they said it was due to erosion
I have been on that beach for as long as I can remember and if there are more than 25 Beach Buggies on the beach at once it's the 1st weekend they open so I think it's BS |
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09-03-2017, 12:32 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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Taking 2 months to catch a million pounds is not a sign of the apocalypse Bruce.
That's only 20 open comm days at 15 fish per permit.
When it was 30 fish, it only took 9 fishing days to land.
Don't forget it went from 3 days a week to 2 days and beach permits went down to only two fish per person.
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09-03-2017, 01:39 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Curious Mike how was the comm fishing in the Boston harbor area this summah.
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09-03-2017, 04:17 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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I only fished Thursdays and did ok. 4-5 fish per trip, 9 once. Lots of charter fish 28-33" around.
Seems like it was just getting good lately. I know some did better but I don't know of many getting limits every time.
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09-03-2017, 04:19 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Was curious. Guys down here in boats in the Bay had some good days and a bunch of stinkers. Buzzards bay outside the canal was good to them this year.
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09-03-2017, 09:36 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
Posts: 3,740
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Tough sledding up our way...some nice fish around but few and far in between. .
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09-04-2017, 06:58 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 40
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Quota dropped
Don't forget in the math the quota went from a million pounds to 800k. Ma dmf should be able to provide the location distribution of the fish (although that info has from noise from people catching and selling up where they live). Northshore was terrible till about 10 days ago. Guys floating around for 10 hours to catch 2 fish? There was very little in the way of big fish in the Rocks. Pogy school in Salem to date has been unmolested. Even Ron Powers struggled some reports great fishing and to even throw a decent picture of a bass up. The kicker is that everyone has gotten so much better at fishing for the bass. That factor is the biggest reason I think there are dark clouds on the horizon (for the big fish).
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09-04-2017, 01:14 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: guilford CT
Posts: 858
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yeah.... I feel like we're headed for another crash. and I'm too old to wait for it to come back.....
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