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Old 12-06-2017, 10:37 AM   #1
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Little by little, another liberal emerges from the bubble

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Old 12-06-2017, 10:57 AM   #2
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Ha, guys like Spence and Wayne seem to have glazed over some of the misdeeds also. It's funny to watch them ignore the real news and go crazy over what might happen.
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Old 12-09-2017, 05:37 PM   #3
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Detbuch does love to present his needle in a hay stack stories as evidence of his world view: btu:
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Old 12-09-2017, 09:29 PM   #4
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Detbuch does love to present his needle in a hay stack stories as evidence of his world view: btu:
I do love it. Like searching for the Higgs Boson, and finding it.
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Old 12-10-2017, 10:13 AM   #5
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folks at the Large Hadron Collider have now confirmed that the newly discovered particle is definitely the Higgs boson as predicted by the Standard Model of particle physics. On the one hand, this is obviously a huge win for science — but on the other, there will be many scientists who are disappointed that, yet again, the Standard Model has held up to another round of immense scrutiny. If you were hoping for the Higgs boson to be the weird particle that led us towards the weird and wonderful nether regions of science beyond the Standard Model — supersymmetry, dark matter, dark energy — then sadly this is not the particle you were looking for.

Higgs Boson analogy re affirmed my observation it was found but not a game changer they or you presented to be
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Old 12-10-2017, 10:50 AM   #6
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folks at the Large Hadron Collider have now confirmed that the newly discovered particle is definitely the Higgs boson as predicted by the Standard Model of particle physics. On the one hand, this is obviously a huge win for science but on the other, there will be many scientists who are disappointed that, yet again, the Standard Model has held up to another round of immense scrutiny. If you were hoping for the Higgs boson to be the weird particle that led us towards the weird and wonderful nether regions of science beyond the Standard Model supersymmetry, dark matter, dark energy then sadly this is not the particle you were looking for.

Higgs Boson analogy re affirmed my observation it was found but not a game changer they or you presented to be
As usual, you cherry pick. Yes, it fits within the Standard Model. It was the calculating through that model that birthed the notion that such a particle could exist. Whatever anyone expected it to be is not the relevant point. Until it was found, there was much discrediting of the notion that it existed. And having been found, it greatly adds to scientific knowledge. The "looking for the needle in a haystack" (as what science is often about) was important and was a profitable scientific advancement.

Your notion that looking for and finding a needle in a haystack proves nothing is total bunk.
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As usual, you cherry pick. Yes, it fits within the Standard Model. It was the calculating through that model that birthed the notion that such a particle could exist. Whatever anyone expected it to be is not the relevant point. Until it was found, there was much discrediting of the notion that it existed. And having been found, it greatly adds to scientific knowledge. The "looking for the needle in a haystack" (as what science is often about) was important and was a profitable scientific advancement.

Your notion that looking for and finding a needle in a haystack proves nothing is total bunk.
funny now you defend scientific advancement.

Just stop trying to sell the needles you "find" as watershed moments or gotcha pieces to support you narrative..and narrow world view ...
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:10 PM   #8
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funny now you defend scientific advancement.

I did not defend scientific advancement here. Nor did I attack it. Are you referring to things I've said about Anthropogenic Global Warming, or now referred to as Climate Change? I have ultimately said that I am neutral on that subject. I don't know, and have not been convinced one way or the other about it. I have shown arguments against it in rebuttal to arguments for it. That does not show that I am either for or against it.

Actual scientific advancement, I am for. It doesn't need to be defended. It just is. Does it have negative consequences as well as good. Sure, as does every advancement. And, in my opinion, individual freedom is one of the greatest generators of scientific advancement.


Just stop trying to sell the needles you "find" as watershed moments or gotcha pieces to support you narrative..and narrow world view ...
They're not needles. They are gems. And they show the variety of gems that actually exist outside of your limited perspective. I inevitably expect that you will not actually look at the gems or actually comment on them. But somehow make it a poke at my supposed world view or my "agenda." You really don't know what my world view is. I don't expect you to know. I have not given it. What I post in this forum and on these threads is a bare snippet of who I am or what I think. But I don't want to make it about me. That you try to do that is your choice. You are invariably wrong about me, and in that you ignore the gems (which I don't "sell" as you put it) that I offer gratis, and with some time and effort, so much the more you remain in the bubble that the author of the article I posted wrote about.

You did not refute anything she said. You just tried, as usual, to make it about me. Which, of course, allows you to avoid and therefor miss both points--the articles, and who I actually am.
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