Do you want 4 more years of this?

[Pete F.]

Repeating Russian produced conspiracy theories

[Sea Dangles]

Clearly the greatest president of our lifetime
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[Pete F.]

“Conservatism is respect for the rule of law... The Trumplicans who claim they’re conservatives today are demanding loyalty to this completely lawless, ignorant, foul-mouthed president”
🍑🤡
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[Sea Dangles]

I am not demanding anything PeteF. I just like the direction we are moving as a country. But keep posting nonsense that makes you feel as though you are solving something.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

“Conservatism is respect for the rule of law... The Trumplicans who claim they’re conservatives today are demanding loyalty to this completely lawless, ignorant, foul-mouthed president”
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Who is demanding anything?

It's your side that demands ideological purity. Ask Tulsi Gabbard, who is being called a traitor because she doesn't like regime change wars.

[Pete F.]

Trumplicans obviously demand nothing from Floridaman
This administration is all tied into the drug deal with Colludy
It’s all coming out
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[Pete F.]

Someone in the government has a spine
The secretary of the Navy and the admiral who leads the SEALs have threatened to resign or be fired if plans to expel a commando from the elite unit in a war crimes case are halted by Trump, administration officials said.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Someone in the government has a spine
The secretary of the Navy and the admiral who leads the SEALs have threatened to resign or be fired if plans to expel a commando from the elite unit in a war crimes case are halted by Trump, administration officials said.
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Era of Trump, no rules, perfect for our military.
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[wdmso]

Look at what the did to the women who worked for Pence and other Republicans before him.. if the had z cross she would have been nailed to it.. they dont care what trump says or does Tribe comes 1st over all other issues.. they create their own reality and Fox reinforces that made up reality .. you see in climate change immigration the budget deficit ,china, Turkey , Syria, bengiza, Ukraine, its constant
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[Sea Dangles]

Clearly the greatest president of our lifetime.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

they dont care what trump says or does Tribe comes 1st over all other issues.. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

This, from a guy who said it's no big deal if Obama's FBI knowingly falsified documents to spy on American citizens.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

This, from a guy who said it's no big deal if Obama's FBI knowingly falsified documents to spy on American citizens.

You should wait till the report comes out .. heard it clearly states no Bias , funny your outraged about the FBI surveillance on American citizens (legal) but no such outrage with Trump.asking a foreign goverment for dirt on an Americans.. pathetic
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You should wait till the report comes out .. heard it clearly states no Bias , funny your outraged about the FBI surveillance on American citizens (legal) but no such outrage with Trump.asking a foreign goverment for dirt on an Americans.. pathetic
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YOu're twisting all in knots.

Legal surveillance, no problemo.

Surveillance based on doctored warrants? Big problem. I have no idea if that happened, but you said even if it did, no big deal.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

but no such outrage with Trump.asking a foreign goverment for dirt truth on an Americans.. pathetic
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I've said 100 times, i have no problem with investigating Trump, and if he committed an impeachable offense, I want him gone.

You're all terrified of investigating Bidens. The fact that Hunter's company got a fededal loan for $130 million? No nepotism there? No evidence of corruption?

[Got Stripers]

I know these guys want four more years, although if their noses get any deeper up Trumps arse, they may experience more than a little discoloration.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I've said 100 times, i have no problem with investigating Trump, and if he committed an impeachable offense, I want him gone.

You're all terrified of investigating Bidens. The fact that Hunter's company got a fededal loan for $130 million? No nepotism there? No evidence of corruption?

Where was this concern prior to the election.. this is the key point you avoid.. unlike the Trumps wrong doing which we all read in the Transcripts.. bidens only crime is hes made money like a Republican and you who always demands Evidence.... (Jim jordan carter page ) are examples

But this standard you fail to apply to the Bidens.. why?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

YOu're twisting all in knots.

Legal surveillance, no problemo.

Surveillance based on doctored warrants? Big problem. I have no idea if that happened, but you said even if it did, no big deal.

Again no evidence of doctored information..
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[Sea Dangles]

Tin foil hat much?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

YOu're twisting all in knots.

Legal surveillance, no problemo.

Surveillance based on doctored warrants? Big problem. I have no idea if that happened, but you said even if it did, no big deal.

If you have no idea why are you getting so wound up. Sounds like a low level employee made a change to cover a personal mistake that didn’t fundamentally change the legality of the application. Big whoop.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by spence

If you have no idea why are you getting so wound up. Sounds like a low level employee made a change to cover a personal mistake that didn’t fundamentally change the legality of the application. Big whoop.
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Dont inject what actually happened .. 1st hand knowledge is only required against Trump
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Again no evidence of doctored information..
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Except that CNN reported that's what was uncovered.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Except that CNN reported that's what was uncovered.

Fox's
Dana Perino Dampens Expectations on DOJ IG’s FISA Abuse Report: ‘Very Underwhelming’ for Trump Supporters
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

If you have no idea why are you getting so wound up. Sounds like a low level employee made a change to cover a personal mistake that didn’t fundamentally change the legality of the application. Big whoop.
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I'm not all wound up. I'm enjoying watching you guys twist like contortionists to keep up with the spin.

It was a low level employee, who made a change or two, supposedly, to make the application seem more justified. CNN reported that, by the way. One only does that, when one is worried that the actual supporting evidence, is insufficient to get the warrant you seek.

As you and WDMSO said, no big deal.

[Got Stripers]

In another four years just think of the true patriots, especially in our armed forces, who will be fired because they spoke out or disagreed with Trump. Trump undermining the chain of command in the Navy a perfect example, just imagine in a major military conflict breaks out and Cheeto is calling the shots.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Dont inject what actually happened .. 1st hand knowledge is only required against Trump
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Thing is, we don't know what actually happened yet. The only one who passed judgement without knowing anything was you. You said it's no big deal to be spied on, as long as you don't get arrested.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I'm not all wound up. I'm enjoying watching you guys twist like contortionists to keep up with the spin.

Don't need to spin when you're feasting on facts.

It was a low level employee, who made a change or two, supposedly, to make the application seem more justified. CNN reported that, by the way. One only does that, when one is worried that the actual supporting evidence, is insufficient to get the warrant you seek.

You really don't know why the edit was made, could have just as simply been they got wires crossed were covering their backside so there wasn't an inconsistency. The reporting seems to indicate the IG found no issues with the justification of the application.

[wdmso]

In. Other news. jim could care less that trumps still spreading lies

They have the server, right? From the DNC ... they gave the server to CrowdStrike — or whatever it’s called — which is a company owned by a very wealthy Ukrainian. (Latest fox and friends)

Complete fabrication the companys based in California... but hea conspiracy Jim and Trump can imagine what they want its a free country
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Don't need to spin when you're feasting on facts.


You really don't know why the edit was made, could have just as simply been they got wires crossed were covering their backside so there wasn't an inconsistency. The reporting seems to indicate the IG found no issues with the justification of the application.

No I don't know why it was made, I repeated what was reported on CNN.

As always, I'm content to wait for the facts, and I'll happily go wherever the facts take me. Because unlike you who went into self-imposed exile after the 2016 election, my ability to deal with reality doesn't depend on one side winning every single time. . And in this case, anyone who knows me, believes me when I say that I hope there was no meaningful dishonesty or fudging that happened here. Because even though it would help my side if it turns out that Obama's FBI forged documents to violate the constitutional rights of an American citizen for political gain, even though that would help my side, it's too awful for me to consider. So I hope there's nothing there.