So did any of you buy a new to you Contender from NY recently? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

JohnR · 03-30-2010, 09:28 PM

So did any of you buy a new to you Contender from NY recently? If so shout out or send me a PM. Nice ride. See it everyday now...

CowHunter · 03-30-2010, 11:01 PM

That will be Erich... Not sure he is on the boards here... We discussed the boat, he picked it up last week... Bought it to fish the Striper Cup on Team Reel Deal! Got a sweet sponsorship deal....
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Sea Dangles · 03-31-2010, 09:28 AM

I fished on last years "angler of the year" contender and thought it rode like a beach ball.Even on a flat day it was up and down at cruising speed.Nice boats to fish out of though.

striperman36 · 03-31-2010, 09:31 AM

It's made in Port Salerno FL, its made for flat ass calm, pin the needles run to the gulf stream action. Sittin still though she acts nicely, rocks a little to much for me though. What do you expect with all those ponies on the back.

I'll take an OceanMaster 27 with a diesel anyday I could afford it.

Crafty Angler · 03-31-2010, 09:53 AM

I dunno, I was pretty impressed last year with the ride on my buddy's new 38' Fountain CC with the triple supercharged Merc 300's

Of course, 2+ tons of fuel for ballast when it's topped off helps - and cruising at 50 MPH seriously cuts the commute time from the dock to the Block

I was always amazed at how quiet it was - and how much throttle was still left even at 50...

striperman36 · 03-31-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Crafty Angler

I dunno, I was pretty impressed last year with the ride on my buddy's new 38' Fountain CC with the triple supercharged Merc 300's

Of course, 2+ tons of fuel for ballast when it's topped off helps - and cruising at 50 MPH seriously cuts the commute time from the dock to the Block

I was always amazed at how quiet it was - and how much throttle was still left even at 50...

totally different boat. now if our wifes would only be quiet that long during an equivalent experience that would possibly last that long.

Crafty Angler · 03-31-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by striperman36

... now if our wifes would only be quiet that long during an equivalent experience that would possibly last that long.

I'll drink to that, Bill...

Come to think of it, I already do

striperman36 · 03-31-2010, 11:16 AM

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I'll drink to that, Bill...

Come to think of it, I already do

I'll watch you drive by while my little 21' 90hp cruises over at 20 knots

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I fished on last years "angler of the year" contender and thought it rode like a beach ball.Even on a flat day it was up and down at cruising speed.Nice boats to fish out of though.

If its riding like a beach ball He either put a 4stroke off the back, guys are standing by the leaning post, or he just really doesnt know how to run the boat. definately to much wieght in the stern area. If he hung a 4 stroke off a 21 she is going to be ass heavy.... That boats perfect power is a 200 HPDI. Boat is only 2300 lbs so it is going to be sensitive to wieght... Friends of Mine that hungs 4S off the back have to use alot of Tab, or even but wieght up front, anchor...
I loved my 21, Never Ever did I feel unsafe in it and I ran out in just about everything, never missed a commercial day, tourney cause of weather. Rarely did I ever cancel a charter. Its an awesome handling boat in rough weather. i looked forward to fishing 20 Knots Plus.... I did have two near sinkings, but that was my fault... Went bigger to save the back and joints some, and to make my charters a much more pleasure... My first motor on that 21 had 2000 hours, I had way, way more anchor / drift time on her... Definately miss that boat.... And I would not put a TTOP on that boat! I dont know of a better riding true 21 on the Market, that 24.5 degree dead rise is awesome.... No other boat has it in its class.

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Crafty Angler

I dunno, I was pretty impressed last year with the ride on my buddy's new 38' Fountain CC with the triple supercharged Merc 300's

Of course, 2+ tons of fuel for ballast when it's topped off helps - and cruising at 50 MPH seriously cuts the commute time from the dock to the Block

I was always amazed at how quiet it was - and how much throttle was still left even at 50...

I fished a 31 fountain for the first time this year, rough weather I couldnt believe the pounding for a 31, also was very wet. Those boats are made for Speed!!! Yellowfin Boats, definately a Fav of mine, but the $$$$

Crafty Angler · 03-31-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by striperman36

I'll watch you drive by while my little 21' 90hp cruises over at 20 knots

I dunno, Bill - if I had my druthers - and the space to keep it, which I don't right now - that's exactly what I'd be looking at...

And at some point in the future I may, when I get even more dilapidated than I am now and can't do the rock hopping anymore

With any luck, I've still got a ways to go yet

striperman36 · 03-31-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Crafty Angler

I dunno, Bill - if I had my druthers - and the space to keep it, which I don't right now - that's exactly what I'd be looking at...

And at some point in the future I may, when I get even more dilapidated than I am now and can't do the rock hopping anymore

With any luck, I've still got a ways to go yet

I dunno, those knees looked pretty raggedy when I saw ya.

Sea Dangles · 03-31-2010, 12:53 PM

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If its riding like a beach ball He either put a 4stroke off the back, guys are standing by the leaning post, or he just really doesnt know how to run the boat. definately to much wieght in the stern area. If he hung a 4 stroke off a 21 she is going to be ass heavy.... That boats perfect power is a 200 HPDI. Boat is only 2300 lbs so it is going to be sensitive to wieght... Friends of Mine that hungs 4S off the back have to use alot of Tab, or even but wieght up front, anchor...
I loved my 21, Never Ever did I feel unsafe in it and I ran out in just about everything, never missed a commercial day, tourney cause of weather. Rarely did I ever cancel a charter. Its an awesome handling boat in rough weather. i looked forward to fishing 20 Knots Plus.... I did have two near sinkings, but that was my fault... Went bigger to save the back and joints some, and to make my charters a much more pleasure... My first motor on that 21 had 2000 hours, I had way, way more anchor / drift time on her... Definately miss that boat.... And I would not put a TTOP on that boat! I dont know of a better riding true 21 on the Market, that 24.5 degree dead rise is awesome.... No other boat has it in its class.

The 21' contender is an awesome boat.Keith has a 23T and he knows how to run it as he fishes and charters quite a bit.Like I said,contender is a great boat to fish out of and a bargain too when you consider the features.Didn't your 21 have a 300 4 stroke?

JohnR · 03-31-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CowHunter

That will be Erich... Not sure he is on the boards here... We discussed the boat, he picked it up last week... Bought it to fish the Striper Cup on Team Reel Deal! Got a sweet sponsorship deal....
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Well, I love down the street from Erich. While most in the neighborhood are cleaning basements, he's cleaning his new ride right now.

l.i.fish.in.vt · 03-31-2010, 12:56 PM

i have been on quite a few 21ft center consoles and there aren't many that ride like the contender.i have a 21 ft steiger that was custom made xtra heavy. not the best riding boat but when you stop to fish or clam you have a stable plat form. that was one thing i didn't like about the contender tough standing up when fishing rough seas.

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

The 21' contender is an awesome boat.Keith has a 23T and he knows how to run it as he fishes and charters quite a bit.Like I said,contender is a great boat to fish out of and a bargain too when you consider the features.Didn't your 21 have a 300 4 stroke?

I didnt know you were talking about Kieth, I know he know what hes doing. Big difference in boats, every model runs different depending on the power options they were ORIGINALLY designed for... You sure it is the 23T?? Lori Marie is a 25 Open I thought for sure? What year is his boat and power? I know hes had the boat a while...I thought he had F250's on there. That boat was originally designed for 200 HPDIs... Reason I ask is they were hanging 4 strokes on the Pre 2006 models and it was to much wieght so they redesigned the 25 Open Hull in 06 to the New G2 Hull. 1300 lb motors is a lot of wieght back there. Throw another 385lbs of water in the livewell.. Or does he have the 23T with twin 200 HPDIs?? The Pre G2 hull was NOT designed for the additional wieght of the four strokes...I went with the 25 this year with the F250's. Still economical and easy to trailer. My 21 originally had a 200 HPDI, then I repowered with a 300HPDI, got a good price on it and the 200 was getting tired....

inTHERAPY · 03-31-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CowHunter

If its riding like a beach ball He either put a 4stroke off the back, guys are standing by the leaning post, or he just really doesnt know how to run the boat. definately to much wieght in the stern area. If he hung a 4 stroke off a 21 she is going to be ass heavy.... That boats perfect power is a 200 HPDI. Boat is only 2300 lbs so it is going to be sensitive to wieght... Friends of Mine that hungs 4S off the back have to use alot of Tab, or even but wieght up front, anchor...
I loved my 21, Never Ever did I feel unsafe in it and I ran out in just about everything, never missed a commercial day, tourney cause of weather. Rarely did I ever cancel a charter. Its an awesome handling boat in rough weather. i looked forward to fishing 20 Knots Plus.... I did have two near sinkings, but that was my fault... Went bigger to save the back and joints some, and to make my charters a much more pleasure... My first motor on that 21 had 2000 hours, I had way, way more anchor / drift time on her... Definately miss that boat.... And I would not put a TTOP on that boat! I dont know of a better riding true 21 on the Market, that 24.5 degree dead rise is awesome.... No other boat has it in its class.

There's nothing like a 21 'tender in buzzards bay with gale conditions. A little bumby, official tough guy tattoo required, a little wet, dry suit and tanks......ahhh, what a day.

Sea Dangles · 03-31-2010, 02:48 PM

maybe it is the 25,I don't know but it is fast and well equipped.I hope I get 2000 hours out of my 200 hpdi.

On a different note,try not to take my cup ramblings too seriously. I have been a member here a long time and like to bust on some guys for fun.We even fish together on occasion.I'd consider leaving Team Striper but Coletti won't let me out of my contract.

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

maybe it is the 25,I don't know but it is fast and well equipped.I hope I get 2000 hours out of my 200 hpdi.

On a different note,try not to take my cup ramblings too seriously. I have been a member here a long time and like to bust on some guys for fun.We even fish together on occasion.I'd consider leaving Team Striper but Coletti won't let me out of my contract.

I am pretty sure it is the 25... I know he has been running a 25 since at least 03. I dont know what he did after that "Fog" incident. I know he used to have 200's. Not sure what year his hull is now and power... Does he even charter any More??? 2000 hours should not be an issue, keep up with the VST, clean that filter Every year, and make sure You use a semi synthetic oil... Penzoil semi synthetic is what I used from TheOilStore.com... Kieth's web site has been down a long time.... 10 years a member here come October!as far as the striper Cup, Its all in Fun, we bust eachothers balls all the time... You do know we are not going to make it easy for you for a threepeat! I know you guys did some recruiting and all ;-) Even signed one of my buddies! Competition keeps us young and dont get me wrong, we dont want it easy either! I assure you We are gonna hit hard from the Start! Now if you did want sponsorship deals should of talked to me! Any help with the HPDI just PM me...

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by inTHERAPY

There's nothing like a 21 'tender in buzzards bay with gale conditions. A little bumby, official tough guy tattoo required, a little wet, dry suit and tanks......ahhh, what a day.

Thats good times, call it "backTHERAPY"!!!

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

maybe it is the 25,I don't know but it is fast and well equipped.I hope I get 2000 hours out of my 200 hpdi.

On a different note,try not to take my cup ramblings too seriously. I have been a member here a long time and like to bust on some guys for fun.We even fish together on occasion.I'd consider leaving Team Striper but Coletti won't let me out of my contract.

Yeah, hes got got sponsors from Jack Daniels and Colt45 beer!

Clammer · 03-31-2010, 03:35 PM

HPDI what does that stand for ....... what sereis motor do I have ??? maybe EFI ???
somebody knows ;;

keeperreaper · 03-31-2010, 03:40 PM

Tajons boat 25 World Cat will eat any 25 monohull around here in bad seas and tight chop.

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Clammer

HPDI what does that stand for ....... what sereis motor do I have ??? maybe EFI ???
somebody knows ;;

High pressure Direct Injection... Just like Merc DFI.. Nearly twice the efficiency as the older 2 strokes and less oil consumption...

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 03:55 PM

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Tajons boat 25 World Cat will eat any 25 monohull around here in bad seas and tight chop.

Different Animal, different apps... My little 21 was efficient, 3-4MPG, easy to trailer,(I trailerd 15K miles a year), get in skinny water, great to get bait, launched it by myself 2,3,4 times a day at ramps that a bigger boat would never get into. Badd ASS Boat for an individual fisherman! Look at all the 21 contenders and 23 seacrafts in the NE... Good choice for individual commercial diehards! My boat paid for itself many times over... If I had no limits to boat price, Gas limits, Dockage, and so On I could find a monster Mono hull that can eat the 25 World Cat... For me its whats practical though... The cats are a bit of an eye sore ;-)

JohnR · 03-31-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Clammer

HPDI what does that stand for ....... what sereis motor do I have ??? maybe EFI ???
somebody knows ;;

You have the Saltwater Series EFI. Remember you were thinking of upgradijng to the direct injection motor? That is the HPDI.

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 04:09 PM

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You have the Saltwater Series EFI. Remember you were thinking of upgradijng to the direct injection motor? That is the HPDI.

The big block HPDI's are fuel efficient... Only run on 4 cylinders under 1800 RPM... Great reliable motors. I think yamaha currently just makes a 200... Everything is going direction of 4S...

keeperreaper · 03-31-2010, 04:15 PM

Ken his boat draws less than the 21 contender, can be launched by one person, and last I checked fish don't care about looks of a boat. He also paid less than what a 21 contender goes for. Apples t oranges I guess.

Did you ever get the 200 hpdi back from Mike?

keeperreaper · 03-31-2010, 04:20 PM

As for HPDI yammies; the 200 is generally considered the best 200 hp engine ever built. Bulletproof.

redlite · 03-31-2010, 04:23 PM

Went to the Block last year on a guys brand new 21' contender. We went out of Point J in seas that I wouldn't even be caught out in, never mind heading out into. That boat ran like a 40 footer. Dry, and comfortable, even in the 5 footers. I would by one in a heartbeat. Sweeeeeeet rides.