No new regs until 2015 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

MakoMike · 10-29-2013, 03:59 PM

FWIW, the ASMFC voted today to adopt new regs effective 1/1/15. No idea yet what they will be, but until then the regs will stay the same.

Liv2Fish · 10-29-2013, 04:41 PM

Seems backwards. The vote to adopt them before they are proposed?

numbskull · 10-29-2013, 04:49 PM

Still plenty of mature bass that need to be killed to get that all important, legally mandated, commercially sacred, maximum yield. After that there is plenty of time to figure out how to adjust the regs so the 2011 good year class can breed once then get killed up thoroughly as well.

afterhours · 10-29-2013, 06:04 PM

^^^^
got that right ...

MAKAI · 10-29-2013, 06:39 PM

Pretty sure it's tied in with Obamacare.
Should be a seamless transition to another flawless government interaction in our lives.
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MakoMike · 10-30-2013, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Liv2Fish

Seems backwards. The vote to adopt them before they are proposed?

Yeah, but it was a procedural vote on whether to proceed at this meeting, which they didn't have the data or time to do, or to postpone action until their next meeting. With the procedures they have to follow taking it up at the next meeting means that any new regs won't go into effect until 1/1/15.

MakoMike · 10-30-2013, 07:35 AM

Looks like, at a minimum, regs will go to one fish per day >28 inches.

bobber · 10-30-2013, 09:37 PM

I listened to the meeting yesterday via webcast. was surprised at the different positions taken by NY and NJ that seem out of touch with what is clearly the majority opinion voiced on here and SOL. the guy from NJ (tom Fote) was the most oppostional to any kinda change; just seemed strange since Jersey has stripers as a "gamefish"(?)_
Pat Augustine from NY was right behind. He repeatedly said that the stcoks are not being overfished- despite multiple instnces and figures indicating that they are....

the MOST IMPORTANT item that came out of this meeting was the acceptance of the new stock assessment figures that show the downward trend in bass numbers/recruitment. This is the data set to be used for future decison-making in the upcoming year- it would seem that more conservative catch limits are coming in 2015.

its important that all of us stay informed and keep our states' ASMFC delegates infromed of what we want this fishery to be.... we've got little momentum here- lets not lose it. could be the first time in 15 years some meaningful change could come about

MakoMike · 10-31-2013, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bobber

I listened to the meeting yesterday via webcast. was surprised at the different positions taken by NY and NJ that seem out of touch with what is clearly the majority opinion voiced on here and SOL. the guy from NJ (tom Fote) was the most oppostional to any kinda change; just seemed strange since Jersey has stripers as a "gamefish"(?)_
Pat Augustine from NY was right behind. He repeatedly said that the stcoks are not being overfished- despite multiple instnces and figures indicating that they are....

the MOST IMPORTANT item that came out of this meeting was the acceptance of the new stock assessment figures that show the downward trend in bass numbers/recruitment. This is the data set to be used for future decison-making in the upcoming year- it would seem that more conservative catch limits are coming in 2015.

its important that all of us stay informed and keep our states' ASMFC delegates infromed of what we want this fishery to be.... we've got little momentum here- lets not lose it. could be the first time in 15 years some meaningful change could come about

The stock assessment said that they are not overfished and that overfishing is not occurring, so what would you expect them to do? If you want the fish managed for anything other than MSY then you need to write to your congressman, because under the current version of the MSA they are legally required to manage the stock for MSY.

zimmy · 10-31-2013, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MakoMike

The stock assessment said that they are not overfished and that overfishing is not occurring, so what would you expect them to do? If you want the fish managed for anything other than MSY then you need to write to your congressman, because under the current version of the MSA they are legally required to manage the stock for MSY.

When they predict that overfishing is going to occur, they should act to prevent overfishing from occurring. But the spirit of your post is pretty much spot on: the law needs to be changed.

joebaggs99 · 10-31-2013, 08:59 AM

I would love to see 1 bass greater than 28 inches.

MakoMike · 10-31-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by zimmy

When they predict that overfishing is going to occur, they should act to prevent overfishing from occurring. But the spirit of your post is pretty much spot on: the law needs to be changed.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is exactly what they are doing. The board is going to put together an addendum to prevent overfishing from occurring in 2015.

tlapinski · 10-31-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MakoMike

Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is exactly what they are doing. The board is going to put together an addendum to prevent overfishing from occurring in 2015.

Which can also be read as, "Get your overfishing of SB in during the 2014 season as there is a chance they might do something to try and prevent it in 2015. Or not."

MAKAI · 10-31-2013, 05:34 PM

Pretty sad that when an issue has varied interest. Instead of being proactive, we always wait until it manifests itself into a much bigger issue. Then we become reactionary, we'll never learn. So we create " boards ", when was the last time a board for anything had an Fn clue about the real world.
We can all distort data to support our interest. But I'll stick with what people out there all the time observe.
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