RECREATIONAL SALTWATER FISHING PERMIT

[tattoobob]

RECREATIONAL SALTWATER FISHING PERMIT

A couple of Hearings for the Rec. Lic.

[fishsmith]

$$$

I wonder what the cost per license (process, admin, mail fees ect...) actually cost the state ... I envision the state getting $10 and spending $20 on this card.

hefty fee's below for the out of state charter guys.


# Establishes annual permit fees and other service charges:

1. $10 resident and non-resident permit fee;
2. $125 resident chart vessel permit and $625 non-resident charter permit fees; and
3. $175 resident head boat permit fees and $855 non-resident head boat permit fees.

[Typhoon]

Originally Posted by fishsmith

$$$

I wonder what the cost per license (process, admin, mail fees ect...) actually cost the state ... I envision the state getting $10 and spending $20 on this card.

hefty fee's below for the out of state charter guys.


# Establishes annual permit fees and other service charges:

1. $10 resident and non-resident permit fee;
2. $125 resident chart vessel permit and $625 non-resident charter permit fees; and
3. $175 resident head boat permit fees and $855 non-resident head boat permit fees.

Great...add it to the commercial fees and large pelagic fees. Ridiculous.

Guys like Dom at Coastal Charters are going to get raped in this. That sucks.

[macojoe]

$10 to start, Bet that it will go up fast to match the fresh water lic!

[Pete F.]

I am impressed that at least they don't have a larger fee for nonresident sportfisherman. Never made sense to me for any state to do that, just cuz they can, I guess.

[Mr. Sandman]

RI is penalizing the out of stater charter guy...maybe MA should not allow RI'er's to get MA comm bass lic... It would be about time.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by fishsmith

# Establishes annual permit fees and other service charges:

1. $10 resident and non-resident permit fee;
2. $125 resident chart vessel permit and $625 non-resident charter permit fees; and
3. $175 resident head boat permit fees and $855 non-resident head boat permit fees.

Good. It's about time this state started taking actions to help local businesses.

[Piscator]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Good. It's about time this state started taking actions to help local businesses.

I can see your point that it helps local business by charging out of state guys more but......................these local business now have another fee to pay so it doesn't help them from that perspective at all.

I hope all this money actually goes to a good cause that will help in the long run instead of more waste.

[Mr. Sandman]

LOL...RI is the most corrupt state in the nation. The money will be stolen, laundered, abused, and probably used for a bribe. I never understood the logic where they punish those that create jobs.

I have lived in 7 states and RI probably has the best geographic potential out of any of them yet the officials are a laughing stock outside the state. It is pathetic.

The reality is few will even buy the lic. They have no enforcement. How many times were you stopped and asked to show your lic this year?

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I am impressed that at least they don't have a larger fee for nonresident sportfisherman. Never made sense to me for any state to do that, just cuz they can, I guess.

Since there will be reciprocity with NH, RI and CT, and possibly NJ if they ever get a license in place, how many non-resident licenses would they sell anyway?

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Typhoon

Great...add it to the commercial fees and large pelagic fees. Ridiculous.

Guys like Dom at Coastal Charters are going to get raped in this. That sucks.

You don't wanna know what it cost to shoot an Elk in Idaho as an out of state'r.

[a4scoot]

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

The reality is few will even buy the lic. They have no enforcement. How many times were you stopped and asked to show your lic this year?

Twice!! Saw the "Green Police" a lot more than that. Last time I went it was just me and them watching.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Never made sense to me for any state to do that, just cuz they can, I guess.

Its all how you look at it.....you could say they charge the Resident a reduced rate instead of saying they are charging the out-of-stater a higher rate.

The resident is paying taxes to the state already so they should see some kind of benefit from it.

of course I live in MA and pay Maine state taxes......but can't get a residents license up here....DOH!

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by a4scoot

Twice!! Saw the "Green Police" a lot more than that. Last time I went it was just me and them watching.

The Green Police aren't asking for the Registry card because it's a Federal regulation, and there's no penalty in the law for not having one, it seems. I was told by an EPO in April that any enforcement would be "informational-only". There's also no revenue in enforcing it this year, since there was no fee to get one, and there's no fine for not having one.

Next year, I'm betting that there will be enforcement

[Rob Rockcrawler]

Im happy at the cost. We knew it was coming and it could have been a hell of a lot worse. In regards to the same rate for resident and non resident i wonder if there was any influence put on the legislature by some folks in the fishing industry. I know that the scenario of them actually using some common sense and figuring that people from out of state will support the local economy more if they didn't get raped on the cost of a license, is kind of far fetched.

[BobT]

And where will we be able to obtain these taxes......I mean licenses? ?

[Redsoxticket]

This may be a good oportunity to submit a letter along with a check for the license to address your concerns with striped bass.

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by likwid

You don't wanna know what it cost to shoot an Elk in Idaho as an out of state'r.

Including the permit, airfare, hotel and food about five large. Last I knew.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Swimmer

Including the permit, airfare, hotel and food about five large. Last I knew.

More if you need a guide, less if you have a place to stay, but yeah, thats about right.

[Roger]

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

RI is penalizing the out of stater charter guy...maybe MA should not allow RI'er's to get MA comm bass lic... It would be about time.

I think you got that backwards. MA is raping the out of state charters at $625 of an out of state fee.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Roger

I think you got that backwards. MA is raping the out of state charters at $625 of an out of state fee.

Its enough of a goddamn zoo out there without the RI charter guys.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Roger

I think you got that backwards. MA is raping the out of state charters at $625 of an out of state fee.

Nothing wrong in my book with trying to protect local small businessmen. Guys who live in RI and trailer their boats here don't pay Mass excise taxes, and if they hit a RI gas station to fill their tanks, they don't pay a Mass fuel tax.

Chartering is a tough way to earn a living, and there's enough local competition to start with.

[Roger]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Nothing wrong in my book with trying to protect local small businessmen. Guys who live in RI and trailer their boats here don't pay Mass excise taxes, and if they hit a RI gas station to fill their tanks, they don't pay a Mass fuel tax.

Chartering is a tough way to earn a living, and there's enough local competition to start with.

Aside from the ignorance of that statement, it was not what I was writing about. Sandman was complaining that RI raised fees when the thread and article is about MA.

Small minded parochialism and protectionism does not benefit anyone in the long run.

[robc22]

I was never in favour of this permit. It will open a pandora's box........next up you will have to get that permit endorsed for various species you want to fish for.....at xtra $$$$$...trust me once you let them put there hands in your pockets, your screwed........

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by robc22

I was never in favour of this permit. It will open a pandora's box........next up you will have to get that permit endorsed for various species you want to fish for.....at xtra $$$$$...trust me once you let them put there hands in your pockets, your screwed........

Yeah, they've really gotten out of hand with those freshwater licenses.

[TheSpecialist]

Originally Posted by likwid

More if you need a guide, less if you have a place to stay, but yeah, thats about right.

I have a place to stay, and a guide for free, just moula for the permit, and airfare Someday.......


It's funny though guys have no problem spending 20 a piece for a plug and think nothing of buying 2-5 at a wack, or spending 600- 1000 on a reel but they cry about a 10 license

I say that all recreational sports that use a public resource in one way or another should have a fee, that includes muffy and biff want to ride the public trails in the blue hills or elsewhere on the 5000 dollar horses...