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Old 03-16-2015, 12:31 PM   #1
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Close SW Ledge

I think we should make a run at gaining support for closing the ledge for a few seasons. Say June 1 thru august 30? If the for hire segment gets their 2 fish lets at least keep them from taking them off a spot that should have some protection?

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Old 03-16-2015, 01:04 PM   #2
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You realize posts like this only inspire more people to fish there, right?
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Old 03-16-2015, 01:13 PM   #3
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Point well taken. Just very aggrivated over the inequality of the pending for hire fleet. Should be 1 @ 28 for everyone and if you done have a line in the water and stick and land the fish you don't get to keep it. Better still it should be 1 @ 28 to 31 and leave all the breeders alone for a couple of seasons.
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Old 03-16-2015, 01:14 PM   #4
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If John wants to take this post down I won't be offended.
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Old 03-16-2015, 07:02 PM   #5
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Old 03-16-2015, 01:28 PM   #6
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So you're suggesting excluding charter boats from a certain area but not anyone else?
Good luck with that.

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Old 03-16-2015, 01:31 PM   #7
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No I am not suggesting that. Closed to everyone equally as things should be, equal!!
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Old 03-16-2015, 01:33 PM   #8
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Like am mpa, horrible idea.
Once an area is closed it will never be opened again, ever.to anything
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Old 03-16-2015, 01:44 PM   #9
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Good. let the stock buid up there so its is so over populated we fish off the over flow. How much better could it get that that. Every year the fishing just gets better and better all around the island. Perhaps we should look at all the big holding grounds and do the same thing in every state. Lets make it better for our children nor worse or even status quoe.
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Old 03-16-2015, 02:18 PM   #10
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Good. let the stock buid up there so its is so over populated we fish off the over flow. How much better could it get that that. Every year the fishing just gets better and better all around the island. Perhaps we should look at all the big holding grounds and do the same thing in every state. Lets make it better for our children nor worse or even status quoe.
I'm sure I'm stating the obvious here and I apologize if this sounds condescending , but you do realize fish have fins right? They just come to this particular spot to feed at a particular time if conditions are a particular way.
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Old 03-16-2015, 01:46 PM   #11
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Do whats best for the groupe in turn we do whats best for the individual.........simple logic
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Old 03-16-2015, 02:13 PM   #12
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let's just Ban fishing.

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Old 03-16-2015, 03:00 PM   #13
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Buckman I don't want to sound condescending or start an argument. You need to do some research on the migratory patterns of stripe bass and then we can continue this discussion.
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Old 03-16-2015, 05:19 PM   #14
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Buckman I don't want to sound condescending or start an argument. You need to do some research on the migratory patterns of stripe bass and then we can continue this discussion.
i would suggest that you do the same.

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Old 03-16-2015, 07:08 PM   #15
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No surprise that the 3 charter captians chime in to say you have your head up your arse.

Hmm. Let's see. Bass leaving the Chesapeake head up south side of Long Island... Bass leave Hudson and ct rivers heading along the north side of Long Island.... They both meet at......... SW LEDGE.
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Old 03-16-2015, 07:38 PM   #16
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No surprise that the 3 charter captians chime in to say you have your head up your arse.

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Well, this is yet another direct post aimed at the Charter boats

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. Just very aggrivated over the inequality of the pending for hire fleet. .

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Old 03-16-2015, 07:44 PM   #17
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With little to no enforcement of the fishing ban in the EEZ off Block what makes you think there would be better enforcement of a ban on fishing at SW Ledge? If you want to make a difference why not start by garnering better enforcement of all existing rules, regulations and prohibited areas before arbitrarily adding in new off limit zones?

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No surprise that the 3 charter captians chime in to say you have your head up your arse.

Hmm. Let's see. Bass leaving the Chesapeake head up south side of Long Island... Bass leave Hudson and ct rivers heading along the north side of Long Island.... They both meet at......... SW LEDGE.
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Old 03-17-2015, 10:48 AM   #19
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No surprise that the 3 charter captians chime in to say you have your head up your arse.

Hmm. Let's see. Bass leaving the Chesapeake head up south side of Long Island... Bass leave Hudson and ct rivers heading along the north side of Long Island.... They both meet at......... SW LEDGE.
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Bass from the Hudson rarely migrate more than 50 miles from the mouth of the river. Don't believe me, look it up.

There goes another theory shot to hell.

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Old 03-17-2015, 01:42 PM   #20
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Bass from the Hudson rarely migrate more than 50 miles from the mouth of the river. Don't believe me, look it up.

There goes another theory shot to hell.
Link please.

I have heard that about yearlings, but not about breeding age fish. I could not verify/replicate your statement.
An example of what I found.:
"Angler returns of tags have shown that Hudson River striped bass travel as far north as Nova Scotia, and as far south as North Carolina." http://www.hudsonriver.org/?x=sb/index

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Link please.

I have heard that about yearlings, but not about breeding age fish. I could not verify/replicate your statement.
An example of what I found.:
"Angler returns of tags have shown that Hudson River striped bass travel as far north as Nova Scotia, and as far south as North Carolina." http://www.hudsonriver.org/?x=sb/index
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Old 03-17-2015, 04:31 PM   #22
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See document attached from the U.S.F&WS
Is that study not from 1983? Much more up to date data available than that.
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Bass from the Hudson rarely migrate more than 50 miles from the mouth of the river. Don't believe me, look it up.

There goes another theory shot to hell.
Ask Al Anderson how many Hudson River fish he has tagged.
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http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...2#.VQh5NkKoukg

This clearly states that Hudson river fish go all over the place.
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Bass from the Hudson rarely migrate more than 50 miles from the mouth of the river. Don't believe me, look it up.

There goes another theory shot to hell.
I don't beleive most of what you say
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I don't beleive most of what you say
Your loss, not mine.

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Wouldn't it be unconstitutional to ban fishing on SW ledge?
The offshore anglers are trying to ban fishing at fishtails!!!
15 years ago there was a movement to ban fishing at Race Point
No scupping at the Old Man
No fluking at Sakonnet
How about we allow them to fish there,just no bait...
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Old 03-16-2015, 08:01 PM   #28
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Wouldn't it be unconstitutional to ban fishing on SW ledge?
The offshore anglers are trying to ban fishing at fishtails!!!
15 years ago there was a movement to ban fishing at Race Point
No scupping at the Old Man
No fluking at Sakonnet
How about we allow them to fish there,just no bait...
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Are u out of ur f%$# mind no scupping at the old man. U just hit a touchy subject.
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this is obviously a post made out of frustration regarding the (likely) inequities between the rec and comm sectors' impending striped-bass regulations.......

I don't think anyone really expects to close Southwest to fishing. but I get the sentiment
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this is obviously a post made out of frustration regarding the (likely) inequities between the rec and comm sectors' impending striped-bass regulations.......

I don't think anyone really expects to close Southwest to fishing. but I get the sentiment
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