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Old 03-17-2015, 10:48 AM   #1
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No surprise that the 3 charter captians chime in to say you have your head up your arse.

Hmm. Let's see. Bass leaving the Chesapeake head up south side of Long Island... Bass leave Hudson and ct rivers heading along the north side of Long Island.... They both meet at......... SW LEDGE.
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Bass from the Hudson rarely migrate more than 50 miles from the mouth of the river. Don't believe me, look it up.

There goes another theory shot to hell.

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Old 03-17-2015, 01:42 PM   #2
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Bass from the Hudson rarely migrate more than 50 miles from the mouth of the river. Don't believe me, look it up.

There goes another theory shot to hell.
Link please.

I have heard that about yearlings, but not about breeding age fish. I could not verify/replicate your statement.
An example of what I found.:
"Angler returns of tags have shown that Hudson River striped bass travel as far north as Nova Scotia, and as far south as North Carolina." http://www.hudsonriver.org/?x=sb/index

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Link please.

I have heard that about yearlings, but not about breeding age fish. I could not verify/replicate your statement.
An example of what I found.:
"Angler returns of tags have shown that Hudson River striped bass travel as far north as Nova Scotia, and as far south as North Carolina." http://www.hudsonriver.org/?x=sb/index
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See document attached from the U.S.F&WS
Is that study not from 1983? Much more up to date data available than that.
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Is that study not from 1983? Much more up to date data available than that.
FWS quotes a 1981 study by Mclaren, which I saw earlier today. The full paper wasn't available online, but what I could read of the original paper raised some questions to me about their conclusions so I dug around literature a bit. The 1981 paper seems to have been mostly dismissed since then. So yes, it is old and outdated info.

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"Tagging studies performed between 1948 and 1952 concluded that theHudson River stock limited its movements outside the river to western Long Island (Raney et al. 1954). McLaren et
al. (1981), based on tagging done in 1976 and 1977 reported somewhat broader coastal movements, but only as far
northward as Newburyport, Massachusetts, and an absence of a relationship between fish length and distance from
the river. But tagging of striped bass conducted in the Hudson River between 1984 and 1988 showed an expansion
of range, with recoveries made northward as far as Maine and the Annapolis River, Nova Scotia (Waldman et al.
1990a). They also found a strong relationship between fish length and distance from the river, and interpreted the
absence of such a relationship in the results of McLaren et al. (1981) as an artifact of size-dependent tag retention

(Waldman et al. 1990b). "
http://www.esf.edu/efb/limburg/Hudso...ookchapter.pdf

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Bass from the Hudson rarely migrate more than 50 miles from the mouth of the river. Don't believe me, look it up.

There goes another theory shot to hell.
Ask Al Anderson how many Hudson River fish he has tagged.
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http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...2#.VQh5NkKoukg

This clearly states that Hudson river fish go all over the place.
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Bass from the Hudson rarely migrate more than 50 miles from the mouth of the river. Don't believe me, look it up.

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I don't beleive most of what you say
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I don't beleive most of what you say
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