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[Rmarsh]

Celebrating the swearing in of
president Trump for his second term.

[Rmarsh]

Long weekend for some....ill be working today and happy knowing America is back. The indictments never amounted to anything...the American people saw through the lies and deception and voted accordingly.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

Long weekend for some....ill be working today and happy knowing America is back. The indictments never amounted to anything...the American people saw through the lies and deception and voted accordingly.

Actually, the legal system is so corrupt, inept and fearful of retribution it sat on its hands and did nothing.
If you cant see that, you are in a cult.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Actually, the legal system is so corrupt, inept and fearful of retribution it sat on its hands and did nothing.
If you cant see that, you are in a cult.
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Well, that same legal system did find Trump guilty on 34 felony convictions, found him liable for sexual assault (i.e. rape) with a 90m fine, found his business guilty of habitually manipulating property valuations to the tune of a 450m fine, his foundation guilty of fraud with a 30m fine, his non-university guilty of fraud, I’m forgetting probably a dozen more not to mention the rampant obstruction of justice, racketeering and election interference cases that 20+ of his insiders have gone to jail for.

If this is what the working class really voted for we’re doomed.

[Nebe]

Oh! Dont forget about stealing donations for wounded veterans!
Boy, isnt he classy?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Oh! Dont forget about stealing donations for wounded veterans!
Boy, isnt he classy?
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You don’t get it Nebe, Trump is out for the working man. That’s why his cabinet is packed with billionaires, I mean they know how to make money right? Won’t be long before all those sparrows are full of seeds from the piles of horse shyte.

[Rmarsh]

The will of the people endures. We saw through the bullshyte lies and have come together to reject all of it. God bless.

[JohnR]

Don't start guys

[Pete F.]

I spent some time this morning screenshotting
Egg prices
Gas prices
Mortgage rates
Unemployment Rate
2x4 prices
1/2 cdx price
Stock market
A friend of mine very loudly told me how all those will be better, I told him I have some doubts but I hoped he was right.
We’ll see
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[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I spent some time this morning screenshotting
Egg prices
Gas prices
Mortgage rates
Unemployment Rate
2x4 prices
1/2 cdx price
Stock market
A friend of mine very loudly told me how all those will be better, I told him I have some doubts but I hoped he was right.
We’ll see
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I would like to get a print of that list, or a thread to compare the economics in the coming months as an exercise without political content being added

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

I would like to get a print of that list, or a thread to compare the economics in the coming months as an exercise without political content being added

You can make a list, ten minutes with your phone
GasBuddy
Hannaford
Home Depot
Lending Tree
Google

As far as a nonpolitical discussion of a politician’s promises, I doubt that will happen.
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[Got Stripers]

Some of THE hardest workers I’ve seen in the last decade are immigrants and I’m sure a large percentage of them are very concerned tonight. I’m sure (haha) there are an equal million of hard working white young US born people just ready to get right in there and pick your produce, roof your home, landscape your property, deliver your packages and take care of you on your night out or vacation.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Some of THE hardest workers I’ve seen in the last decade are immigrants and I’m sure a large percentage of them are very concerned tonight. I’m sure (haha) there are an equal million of hard working white young US born people just ready to get right in there and pick your produce, roof your home, landscape your property, deliver your packages and take care of you on your night out or vacation.

And the proper process has always been to increase legal immigration but here we are 35 years later with that being ignored.

[Got Stripers]

First time this country has put a convicted felon in the white house, what could possibly go wrong. Biggest con and largest grift has been pulled off, I have to give Trump credit, when it comes to white collar crime he is the master.

[Mike P]

The Scuppers hasn't had any posts since November. Could you guys take your political crap there?

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Mike P

The Scuppers hasn't had any posts since November. Could you guys take your political crap there?

Long weekend and its fing cold, some heated debate to warm us up?

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by Mike P

The Scuppers hasn't had any posts since November. Could you guys take your political crap there?

Sure...wouldnt want to interupt all the fishing talk.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

Sure...wouldnt want to interupt all the fishing talk.

Your post was fishing and you caught the responses you likely expected.

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Your post was fishing and you caught the responses you likely expected.

Right GS .....I was fishing for some TDS afflicted suckers and limited out really quick.. I will return at another time....my arms are tired.

[Rmarsh]

People paying a million dollars for homes built like this. Their work sucks totally inferior workmanship. It costs more to do things right using skilled workers and not hackers.

[spence]

Ahhhhhhh, a little political thread is refreshing. I do wish Jim were around so we could bring up his old posts about conservatives never, ever, ever rioting.

Can we at least agree the blanket pardoning/commutation of violent criminals who beat up police is patently reprehensible? For the sake of argument I’m even willing to set aside why they were there (Trump) why they were rioting (also Trump) and why many people falsely believe they were given unfair sentences (also, also Trump.)

Never seen anything like this in my lifetime.

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by spence

Ahhhhhhh, a little political thread is refreshing. I do wish Jim were around so we could bring up his old posts about conservatives never, ever, ever rioting.

Can we at least agree the blanket pardoning/commutation of violent criminals who beat up police is patently reprehensible? For the sake of argument I’m even willing to set aside why they were there (Trump) why they were rioting (also Trump) and why many people falsely believe they were given unfair sentences (also, also Trump.)

Never seen anything like this in my lifetime.

What are your excuses for Biden pardoning Leonard Peltier. A cold blooded murderer who shot and killed two FBI agents at close range? I dont really expect an intelligent answer.....but give it a shot....ill listen. Let me guess though. "He didnt get a fair trial"

[spence]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

What are your excuses for Biden pardoning Leonard Peltier. A cold blooded murderer who shot and killed two FBI agents at close range? I dont really expect an intelligent answer.....but give it a shot....ill listen. Let me guess though. "He didnt get a fair trial"

Budda whadda shouldda didda, I thought we were talking about Trump

Whatever, seems like the Native American community (full disclosure, I am a card carrying Cherokee) in general has long fought for clemency on the grounds evidence was falsified in an environment of rampant judicial abuse towards indigenous people’s struggle for self determination. As Dr Oakley noted, President Biden didn’t give him a full pardon, but did recognize those fighting against injustice by letting him live what little is left of his life at home.

To be honest, serving five decades for a contested double murder charge when you don’t pose any further threat seems like Justice served. I do think the primary reason Wray strongly opposed his change in status is because to this day he maintains he did not kill the agents who died.

But that happened in the early 1970s, Trump’s blanket pardoning of hundreds of convicted violent criminals was just in the past few years and is, wait, was ongoing in our system.

People on the Right are so quick to jump on the smallest comment by a leftie they argue incites aggression towards police, I guess now if it’s in the name of MAGA, well, must be open season on first responders.

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by spence

Budda whadda shouldda didda, I thought we were talking about Trump

Whatever, seems like the Native American community (full disclosure, I am a card carrying Cherokee) in general has long fought for clemency on the grounds evidence was falsified in an environment of rampant judicial abuse towards indigenous people’s struggle for self determination. As Dr Oakley noted, President Biden didn’t give him a full pardon, but did recognize those fighting against injustice by letting him live what little is left of his life at home.

To be honest, serving five decades for a contested double murder charge when you don’t pose any further threat seems like Justice served. I do think the primary reason Wray strongly opposed his change in status is because to this day he maintains he did not kill the agents who died.

But that happened in the early 1970s, Trump’s blanket pardoning of hundreds of convicted violent criminals was just in the past few years and is, wait, was ongoing in our system.

People on the Right are so quick to jump on the smallest comment by a leftie they argue incites aggression towards police, I guess now if it’s in the name of MAGA, well, must be open season on first responders.

I always enjoy your eloquent responses. But in short you are defending a douple cop murderer. For reasons youve explained so well. Murder is sometimes. Forgiveness is virtuous.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

I always enjoy your eloquent responses. But in short you are defending a douple cop murderer. For reasons youve explained so well.

No, I’m saying I don’t find the modification to his sentence to be out of bounds considering all the relevant context. In the eyes of the law he’s still guilty of a double murder and many have done less time for the same crime.

You’re comparing apples and oranges really.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by spence

Budda whadda shouldda didda, I thought we were talking about Trump

Whatever, seems like the Native American community (full disclosure, I am a card carrying Cherokee) in general has long fought for clemency on the grounds evidence was falsified in an environment of rampant judicial abuse towards indigenous people’s struggle for self determination. As Dr Oakley noted, President Biden didn’t give him a full pardon, but did recognize those fighting against injustice by letting him live what little is left of his life at home.

To be honest, serving five decades for a contested double murder charge when you don’t pose any further threat seems like Justice served. I do think the primary reason Wray strongly opposed his change in status is because to this day he maintains he did not kill the agents who died.

But that happened in the early 1970s, Trump’s blanket pardoning of hundreds of convicted violent criminals was just in the past few years and is, wait, was ongoing in our system.

People on the Right are so quick to jump on the smallest comment by a leftie they argue incites aggression towards police, I guess now if it’s in the name of MAGA, well, must be open season on first responders.

Not sure that according to his birthright executive order you are still a citizen

“The Trump administration then goes on to argue that the 14th Amendment’s language — the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” — is best understood “to exclude the same individuals who were excluded by the Act —i.e., those who are ‘subject to any foreign power’ and ‘Indians not taxed.’”

The Justice Department attorneys return to the topic of whether or not Native Americans should be entitled to birthright citizenship later in their arguments, citing a Supreme Court case, Elk v. Wilkins, in which the court decided that “because members of Indian tribes owe ‘immediate allegiance’ to their tribes, they are not ‘subject to the jurisdiction’ of the United States and are not constitutionally entitled to Citizenship.”
“The United States’ connection with the children of illegal aliens and temporary visitors is weaker than its connection with members of Indian tribes. If the latter link is insufficient for birthright citizenship, the former certainly is,” the Trump administration argued.

The argument marks a sharp departure from the government’s opinion, which has held that Native Americans who are citizens of their respective tribes are also citizens of the United States.
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[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Not sure that according to his birthright executive order you are still a citizen

“The Trump administration then goes on to argue that the 14th Amendment’s language — the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” — is best understood “to exclude the same individuals who were excluded by the Act —i.e., those who are ‘subject to any foreign power’ and ‘Indians not taxed.’”

The Justice Department attorneys return to the topic of whether or not Native Americans should be entitled to birthright citizenship later in their arguments, citing a Supreme Court case, Elk v. Wilkins, in which the court decided that “because members of Indian tribes owe ‘immediate allegiance’ to their tribes, they are not ‘subject to the jurisdiction’ of the United States and are not constitutionally entitled to Citizenship.”
“The United States’ connection with the children of illegal aliens and temporary visitors is weaker than its connection with members of Indian tribes. If the latter link is insufficient for birthright citizenship, the former certainly is,” the Trump administration argued.

The argument marks a sharp departure from the government’s opinion, which has held that Native Americans who are citizens of their respective tribes are also citizens of the United States.
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Thats nice
Pete tell us why you thought indictmemts against Trump would stop American voters from electing him for a second term. Or dont

[RIROCKHOUND]

He wasn’t paroled, he’s 80 and his sentence was commuted to indefinite house arrest.
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[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

He wasn’t paroled, he’s 80 and his sentence was commuted to indefinite house arrest.
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Better deal than the two law officers he murderd and the children he orphaned. He should have gotten the death penalty

[wdmso]

Why is Trump doing immigration actions, and what he calls sanctuary cities with the impression that they harbor criminals? Yeah I don’t see any raids North Dakota, South Dakota dairy farmers, Texas poultry Ranches meatpacking facilities most in red states.

If he was actually serious, why wouldn’t he be going there also.. because he’s not serious. This is all about optics.


And you’ll never see the story again on Fox News of immigrants crossing the border the price of gas, the cost of food or eggs. And the Fox News Maga viewers will convince themselves that Trump has fixed all these problems.

When the actual truth is Fox News Trump‘s personal propaganda network is running cover for him.


And just for those people who don’t know, overstay a visa or crossing, the border illegally is a misdemeanor.. usually punishable by fine