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[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

means they committed a crime, they are criminals.

You referring to the Fascist in Chief, I assume?

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

The adults are back in charge get over yourself

Well, calling Dump a child would be an insult to all children, so there is that. But he and his SS buddies are not adults in the slightest.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Well, calling Dump a child would be an insult to all children, so there is that. But he and his SS buddies are not adults in the slightest.

^^^^^^^

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

Illegal immigrants have suppressed wages for blue collar legal citizens of this country. Do you know what quality work is? I see their work every day and it sucks. They will confiscate any tools that are not locked down. They pay no taxes whatsoever dont have workers comp coverage no paid holidays , most of their money is sent back home, they dont love our country, they just use our system to subsidize their criminality. That all will come to an end thankfully. Maybe the elites will have to pay a little more for their roofs, aint that a crying shame.

It’s odd the same things you spew. Were said about. The Irish the Italians the Portuguese. The Vietnamese. And every immigrant community before them .. funny how that works.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

People who are here illegally, means they committed a crime, they are criminals. Pretty sure I have lots more knowledge of how they use the system than you. I live and work amongst them every day And please dont give me that crap that they are paying taxes...that is total BS.

Not necessarily, being here illegally isn’t alone a crime. For it to be a crime a person would had to have been removed and then found to be back in the US. Remember about half of undocumented people have simply overstayed their visa.

As for taxes, I’d wager a lot of the undocumented folks you encounter in the trades are off the books when it comes to state and federal but not all undocumented immigrants are and they all pay other taxes to the tune of about $100 billion a year.

Listen, I’m not saying illegal imigrants all do great work but it seems more like the business owners are looking to make more money through cheaper labor and most people don’t know the difference which is always going to be a problem if the system isn’t reformed.

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Well, calling Dump a child would be an insult to all children, so there is that. But he and his SS buddies are not adults in the slightest.

Ahh ...here come the Hitler references. You are aware of Hitlers crimes arent you? Now tell how what Trump is doing compares to this. Stupid thing for you to say isnt it?

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by wdmso

It’s odd the same things you spew. Were said about. The Irish the Italians the Portuguese. The Vietnamese. And every immigrant community before them .. funny how that works.

I married the daughter of a legal immigrant. What part of illegal is hard for you?

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Your post was fishing and you caught the responses you likely expected.

Right GS .....I was fishing for some TDS afflicted suckers and limited out really quick.. I will return at another time....my arms are tired.

[spence]

Ahhhhhhh, a little political thread is refreshing. I do wish Jim were around so we could bring up his old posts about conservatives never, ever, ever rioting.

Can we at least agree the blanket pardoning/commutation of violent criminals who beat up police is patently reprehensible? For the sake of argument I’m even willing to set aside why they were there (Trump) why they were rioting (also Trump) and why many people falsely believe they were given unfair sentences (also, also Trump.)

Never seen anything like this in my lifetime.

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by spence

Ahhhhhhh, a little political thread is refreshing. I do wish Jim were around so we could bring up his old posts about conservatives never, ever, ever rioting.

Can we at least agree the blanket pardoning/commutation of violent criminals who beat up police is patently reprehensible? For the sake of argument I’m even willing to set aside why they were there (Trump) why they were rioting (also Trump) and why many people falsely believe they were given unfair sentences (also, also Trump.)

Never seen anything like this in my lifetime.

What are your excuses for Biden pardoning Leonard Peltier. A cold blooded murderer who shot and killed two FBI agents at close range? I dont really expect an intelligent answer.....but give it a shot....ill listen. Let me guess though. "He didnt get a fair trial"

[RIROCKHOUND]

He wasn’t paroled, he’s 80 and his sentence was commuted to indefinite house arrest.
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[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

He wasn’t paroled, he’s 80 and his sentence was commuted to indefinite house arrest.
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Better deal than the two law officers he murderd and the children he orphaned. He should have gotten the death penalty

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

Ahh ...here come the Hitler references. You are aware of Hitlers crimes arent you? Now tell how what Trump is doing compares to this. Stupid thing for you to say isnt it?

1930 Hitler appeal, and acceptance Created the 1945 Hilter . We all despise

I bet many of his supporters didn’t think he would do what he did. … we see how that worked out.


There are parallels. To suggest there are not.. is a bit disingenuous

[wdmso]

Why is Trump doing immigration actions, and what he calls sanctuary cities with the impression that they harbor criminals? Yeah I don’t see any raids North Dakota, South Dakota dairy farmers, Texas poultry Ranches meatpacking facilities most in red states.

If he was actually serious, why wouldn’t he be going there also.. because he’s not serious. This is all about optics.


And you’ll never see the story again on Fox News of immigrants crossing the border the price of gas, the cost of food or eggs. And the Fox News Maga viewers will convince themselves that Trump has fixed all these problems.

When the actual truth is Fox News Trump‘s personal propaganda network is running cover for him.


And just for those people who don’t know, overstay a visa or crossing, the border illegally is a misdemeanor.. usually punishable by fine

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

Ahh ...here come the Hitler references. You are aware of Hitlers crimes arent you? Now tell how what Trump is doing compares to this. Stupid thing for you to say isnt it?

So you are unaware that his political appointee, a proud supporter of the AFD, made a Nazi salute, while standing at the podium, decorated with the medallion of the president of the US, at an official inaugural event? He also has in power, for the second time, Stephen Miller, a white nationalist, as homeland security advisor. That is what is stupid. Me highlighting it is necessary.

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by zimmy

So you are unaware that his political appointee, a proud supporter of the AFD, made a Nazi salute, while standing at the podium, decorated with the medallion of the president of the US, at an official inaugural event? He also has in power, for the second time, Stephen Miller, a white nationalist, as homeland security advisor. That is what is stupid. Me highlighting it is necessary.

Nazi salute?
Fishing is good today.....TDS suckers coming out of their comas.

[Pete F.]

Nothing to worry about the FFOTUS has it under control

Gonna have External Revenue

“Drill baby” when we’re producing record amounts

Take over Panama because due to water shortages that are caused by climate change traffic has been reduced, probably he’s gonna get water from Canada, there’s bound to be some leftover after he waters California.

Threaten to attack an ally and take a portion of their country, all our current and prospective allies will remember that. (Is he upset that Denmark has been contributing the highest percentage of their GDP to Ukraine?)

I’m sure the savings from installing political officers in every branch of government will work well, it did in every totalitarian government in the world
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[Pete F.]

Nothing to worry about

Daniel Ball, the guy who was charged for setting off an explosive device during the J6 attack on our Capitol and had his case tossed by Donald Trump's mass clemency grants, was just arrested for federal gun charges.
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[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Nothing to worry about

Daniel Ball, the guy who was charged for setting off an explosive device during the J6 attack on our Capitol and had his case tossed by Donald Trump's mass clemency grants, was just arrested for federal gun charges.
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Hold on i got a couple of big ones here gut hooked. Then i got to break for lunch. The indictments are coming.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

What are your excuses for Biden pardoning Leonard Peltier. A cold blooded murderer who shot and killed two FBI agents at close range? I dont really expect an intelligent answer.....but give it a shot....ill listen. Let me guess though. "He didnt get a fair trial"

Budda whadda shouldda didda, I thought we were talking about Trump

Whatever, seems like the Native American community (full disclosure, I am a card carrying Cherokee) in general has long fought for clemency on the grounds evidence was falsified in an environment of rampant judicial abuse towards indigenous people’s struggle for self determination. As Dr Oakley noted, President Biden didn’t give him a full pardon, but did recognize those fighting against injustice by letting him live what little is left of his life at home.

To be honest, serving five decades for a contested double murder charge when you don’t pose any further threat seems like Justice served. I do think the primary reason Wray strongly opposed his change in status is because to this day he maintains he did not kill the agents who died.

But that happened in the early 1970s, Trump’s blanket pardoning of hundreds of convicted violent criminals was just in the past few years and is, wait, was ongoing in our system.

People on the Right are so quick to jump on the smallest comment by a leftie they argue incites aggression towards police, I guess now if it’s in the name of MAGA, well, must be open season on first responders.

[Pete F.]

Since they’re gonna make announcements

308 arrests of illegal migrants made by ICE yesterday.

Pathetic considering an average of 467 arrests per day were made under Biden in 2024.

Donald Trump is actually doing less.

Zero shocker.
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[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by spence

Budda whadda shouldda didda, I thought we were talking about Trump

Whatever, seems like the Native American community (full disclosure, I am a card carrying Cherokee) in general has long fought for clemency on the grounds evidence was falsified in an environment of rampant judicial abuse towards indigenous people’s struggle for self determination. As Dr Oakley noted, President Biden didn’t give him a full pardon, but did recognize those fighting against injustice by letting him live what little is left of his life at home.

To be honest, serving five decades for a contested double murder charge when you don’t pose any further threat seems like Justice served. I do think the primary reason Wray strongly opposed his change in status is because to this day he maintains he did not kill the agents who died.

But that happened in the early 1970s, Trump’s blanket pardoning of hundreds of convicted violent criminals was just in the past few years and is, wait, was ongoing in our system.

People on the Right are so quick to jump on the smallest comment by a leftie they argue incites aggression towards police, I guess now if it’s in the name of MAGA, well, must be open season on first responders.

I always enjoy your eloquent responses. But in short you are defending a douple cop murderer. For reasons youve explained so well. Murder is sometimes. Forgiveness is virtuous.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

I always enjoy your eloquent responses. But in short you are defending a douple cop murderer. For reasons youve explained so well.

No, I’m saying I don’t find the modification to his sentence to be out of bounds considering all the relevant context. In the eyes of the law he’s still guilty of a double murder and many have done less time for the same crime.

You’re comparing apples and oranges really.

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by spence

No, I’m saying I don’t find the modification to his sentence to be out of bounds considering all the relevant context. In the eyes of the law he’s still guilty of a double murder and many have done less time for the same crime.

You’re comparing apples and oranges really.

Yes its comparing a muderer whose cause you sympathize with a murderer you dont care about....or the dead victims families children innocent.⁸ok lunch time over for me

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

I married the daughter of a legal immigrant. What part of illegal is hard for you?

Legal or illegal. The same tropes you repeated applied to all the immigrant groups . Even from way back then. And define a legal immigrant from the 30s.

[wdmso]

US President Donald Trump says he has signed a full and unconditional pardon for Ross Ulbricht, who operated Silk Road, the dark web marketplace where illegal drugs were sold.

How many death was he responsible for?


Ulbricht was convicted in 2015 in New York in a narcotics and money-laundering conspiracy and sentenced to life in prison.
Trump championed Ulbricht's cause, joining libertarians who said the conviction was an example of government overreach.

I am guessing. Some here are ok with this pardon as well as those charged with sedition..

Not based on the merits. And situation.. But because of who the pardon was From

[Pete F.]

So when all was said and done, the only country that opened it's prisons and sent crazy murderous criminals to prey upon innocent American citizens, was us.
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[Rmarsh]

Brace yourselves....he will declare himself dictator any day now. Some of you guys are bad at predictions. Good to see you all so talkative and whiney. 🙂

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

Nazi salute?
Fishing is good today.....TDS suckers coming out of their comas.

You are like your cult leader. You can see the guy, a fan of white supremacists, make a Nazi salute, and pretend it isn't a Nazi salute. There is no point engaging with someone who won't acknowledge reality.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by zimmy

You are like your cult leader. You can see the guy, a fan of white supremacists, make a Nazi salute, and pretend it isn't a Nazi salute. There is no point engaging with someone who won't acknowledge reality.

He is a card carrying cult member, if Trump says up is down, then thats what he believes. The writing is on the wall, but some people can’t read or even understand the implications. If the economy turns to crap or we are forced into a global or even homeland based conflict of a serious nature,the spin will be Biden’s administration is to blame. He and the cult members don’t believe in facts or the numbers that prove them right. There are criminals and illegals pouring into our country, it matters not that figures don’t support that claim, MAGA says it is so.