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Old 04-16-2011, 07:09 PM   #1
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race point

when do the birds typically shut down race pt for orv access?

my 1st wife didn't like me fishing so much
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Old 04-16-2011, 08:04 PM   #2
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As I recall usually by 4th July!

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Old 04-16-2011, 08:28 PM   #3
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Just thin, 5-6 years ago there would be fights online for mentioning the Race permits were up. Wonder if the seal lovers drive their Prii over the beach.

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Old 04-16-2011, 08:45 PM   #4
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Old 04-17-2011, 12:48 AM   #5
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They start closing sections down in june
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Old 04-17-2011, 07:44 AM   #6
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As I recall in July access to the north side tends to be spotty. After July things settle down and much of August there is access to most of the trail. The best fishing often times is not right at the point. But what do I know?
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Old 04-17-2011, 07:54 AM   #7
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it usually starts by June, complete by mid month, then sections start to open early July. Rarely is the whole beach open until mid August.

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Old 04-17-2011, 08:26 AM   #8
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Just thin, 5-6 years ago there would be fights online for mentioning the Race permits were up. Wonder if the seal lovers drive their Prii over the beach.
it got insane there for a while. one year i remember waiting all day to get a permit, at around 5 pm being told i had to come back the next day. first place i ever caught a big fish.

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Old 04-17-2011, 08:52 AM   #9
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get the overnight parking pass, for the seashore lots.. for free at the rangers station, best value, and one you can use all season, unlike the oversand, which is useless most of the time.....
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Old 04-17-2011, 10:41 AM   #10
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it usually starts by June, complete by mid month, then sections start to open early July. Rarely is the whole beach open until mid August.
Mike, what's open in early July? Seems that's when the closures are at the highest. You got your sticker yet? I heard there were very long lines!

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Old 04-17-2011, 12:14 PM   #11
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Put the boat in at the Pamet River. Its a 20 minute run to the race from there. Screw the birds the only thing they are good for is a squab dinner.
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:47 PM   #12
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The Race is not even a ghost of what it once was. . . . real Fn shame.

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Old 04-17-2011, 06:32 PM   #13
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there's been pieces of beach open the last two 4th's. No rush for stickers this year - I got #98 on Thursday at the end of the day.

the overnight parking lot pass that Karl mentions is available at the visitor's centers, not the ranger stations.

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Old 04-17-2011, 07:21 PM   #14
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correctamundo mikey2na, brainfart on my part
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Old 04-17-2011, 09:39 PM   #15
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I am not getting my sticker this year. The place isnt what it once was. To bad too thats where I fell in love with surf fishing
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Old 04-17-2011, 09:55 PM   #16
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Me too SC413! I have not gotten a sticker in 5 seasons now! I endured the long lines several years ago and it was worth it....now its not worth being the only one in line???? Truly sad....and I miss what it once was.

Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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Old 04-17-2011, 10:18 PM   #17
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Yeah Yeah Yeah...there is no fish at the CCNS, none at all......lol

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Old 04-17-2011, 10:40 PM   #18
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Yeah Yeah Yeah...there is no fish at the CCNS, none at all......lol
Don't think fish (rather the lack of fish) being off the Race is the main issue that people have. Full closures early in the season then rolling closures throughout the rest of the season, along with fighting through seals is the bigger issue.
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Old 04-18-2011, 01:44 PM   #19
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Yeah Yeah Yeah...there is no fish at the CCNS, none at all......lol
Gotta admit though you may still stick a few fish now and then,
It's nothing like it used to be near shore.
If only the bass we V jig a few miles out going for tuna would ever return . . . . .

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Old 04-18-2011, 06:21 PM   #20
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it may not be what it once was but still a great place. i've seen some nice fluke from the beaches too. my kid will love it

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Old 04-18-2011, 08:44 PM   #21
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I still love that place and will get a sticker every year until I can't. The wifey likes it, that makes things a bit easier for me. If you're willing to walk a bit or have a kayak/boat to get by the seals, you can still have epic days. I remember when I had to smuggle pizza in over the dunes from the airport one year when I was trying to get my sticker. That's how crowded it used to be. I still was a bait dunker back then. The coffin was always full. Things have changed.

seals + plovers =
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Old 04-18-2011, 10:02 PM   #22
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it may not be what it once was but still a great place. i've seen some nice fluke from the beaches too. my kid will love it
When I was a young pup, for lunch I would put on the mask and fins, go in at hatches and spear a few beautiful fluke. Be eating them an hour later . . . .

it still is a great place, . . . . if only one thing would change.

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Old 04-19-2011, 10:42 AM   #23
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The alpha predator shows up more and more every year. So hopefully things will improve. There are still plenty of fish to be had. Just gonna work a little harder for them
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:34 PM   #24
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We still get plenty in the boat.
But I would so much prefer to have my feet in the sand.
I'm sure I've spoiled myself with how it was in the late 70's and on though.

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Old 04-20-2011, 07:42 AM   #25
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The Race is not even a ghost of what it once was. . . . real Fn shame.
We had our best year at the Race off all time last year from boat.

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Old 04-20-2011, 09:01 AM   #26
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I know I sound like an old fart but, it's this size fish I miss, which use to be common enough as to be expected whenever we went to the back.
Sure you can get a lot of the 15 to 25 pound fish in the boat, we do, but you don't see these too much anymore. We got an awful lot like this from the sand. It is the surf fishing I miss the most, bass fishing isn't the same to me in a boat. I'm convinced it's the seals keeping the fish spooked off the beach. They're close, but they don't get tight to shore with the regularity they did pre seals. I know you get the odd day or two but, the frequency of old is gone. I bet the bass can smell them easily.
Just an observation from someone with many years of Race sand in his shoes.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:37 AM   #27
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Knowing that the seals are here to stay.... those pictures still depress me.
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Holy crap! who's the kid in the 2nd pic!!

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This is how I remember the Race, fishing at night, with eels and watching 40 lb'ers come in like this one courtesy of the howler monkey.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:38 AM   #30
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Makai is right the same thing happened on the flats in Chatham. The seals are an absolute nuisance on the cape. The eastham side of the nauset cut is also loaded with them. That cut on the inside used to be loaded with flat fish not anymore. I hate seals. Everytime I hear about white sharks it makes me happy.
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