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Old 01-16-2007, 02:52 PM   #1
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Van Staal Plug Bag- FYI

I was considering giving the new Van Staal double row bag a shot because it seems to have lighter tubes than the skinz bag. The tubes look less durable but I think that's too be expected with the decrease in weight.

Anyway, I called to inquire about the cost of replacing the tubes and it's $63 and change.

WTF. I've never complained about the price of my VS reels and won't but 63 bucks for some plastic inserts. C'mon.

Figured I give you guys a heads up before purchasing one.

Score another one for the Skinz single row. That's all I'll be using.
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Old 01-16-2007, 02:57 PM   #2
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canyon make a good bag ?? iIwas thinking the same thing its kind of cheaply made the VS bag

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Old 01-16-2007, 03:01 PM   #3
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canyon make a good bag ?? iIwas thinking the same thing its kind of cheaply made the VS bag
I think you could be in trouble if you take a spill with the canyon bag. It doesn't have the amount of velcro or the buckle like the skinz.

I was only considering the VS bag because sometimes I feel like I need a little more space than the single row skinz bag. I know 5 tubes is all i should need but I like to carry alot of plugs. The skinz double row is just a little to heavy for me to keep over my shoulder when I'm pluggin. It is definately the best made bag. I've had mine for 3 seasons.
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:05 PM   #4
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I was in Lowes the other day and they had these florescent bulb covers that were 6ft+ long clear plastic tubes I was thinking of chopping up for a plug bag ,,, they were not super heavy but might be ok,,,,,,, You might want to check them out next time your in a Lowes near you,,,,,, under $10,,,,
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:11 PM   #5
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If you're interested, I've got one of the two row Canyon bags in excellent condition that I've attached a buckle strap around so it locks closed like the Aquaskinz bag. Mostly used to store plugs in my car, I didn't really use it in the surf.

And it now belongs to MAC

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Old 01-16-2007, 03:10 PM   #6
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Got this tip off this site earlier......Central Vacuum Tubing. They sell it at some Homey's and it only $4 an 8 foot section....more durable than the Flo light tubes but not as thick as the PVC pipe

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Old 01-16-2007, 03:12 PM   #7
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Yes, I have seen the stuff (and used it).......Same isle they sell the shop vacs. Thin stuff and stronger than clear flimsy plastic. The Central Vac tubing
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:42 PM   #8
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Got this tip off this site earlier......Central Vacuum Tubing. They sell it at some Homey's and it only $4 an 8 foot section....more durable than the Flo light tubes but not as thick as the PVC pipe
good stuff, build your own
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:54 PM   #9
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I swap the heavy tubes out for the thin/lite ones.
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:56 PM   #10
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that's almost as bad as $20 for a telephone cord lanyard that you can make at home for $3
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:02 PM   #11
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i have trouble with my long needles fish which bag do u guys suggests
that will take care of them sticking out ?

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Old 01-16-2007, 04:09 PM   #12
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I ordere the square lure storage tubes from nj tackle ...clear tape them together ...punch drain holes and done $ 1 per tube..they expand so you can easily play around with double entries lol [ gotta take this & this and thiiis !! ] the inserts i originally recieved with my surfcaster bag were to heavy...for me

they can crack after a season but for a WHOLE $1 so what.
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:07 PM   #13
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Got this tip off this site earlier......Central Vacuum Tubing. They sell it at some Homey's and it only $4 an 8 foot section....more durable than the Flo light tubes but not as thick as the PVC pipe
I was thinking about making my own. How do you close off the bottom of the tubes so plugs don't get stuck?

I was going to stick the vs tubes in the skinz bag if they fit. I figured the insert would be cheap.

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Old 01-16-2007, 04:11 PM   #14
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I was thinking about making my own. How do you close off the bottom of the tubes so plugs don't get stuck?
Duct tape - plugs won't fall thru and water still drains out.
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:12 PM   #15
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Duct tape - plugs won't fall thru and water still drains out.
1002 used for deuct tape
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:25 PM   #16
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You can get the little red caps that they use for the mailer tubes and pop them in or you can go with the end-caps that they use for PVC Plumbing

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Old 01-16-2007, 04:34 PM   #17
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Shimano Blue Wave Surf bag is very nice.
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:49 PM   #18
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how big do you neeed ?
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:58 PM   #19
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A lot of good stuff being said about the Shimano bag.
http://fish.shimano.com/catalog/fish...=1168984418492
The price is right anyways.

I just take a BW bag shore it up with some extra Velcro and/or sew on a buckle.

Paying over a bill for a surfbag?Not for me.All it really needs to do is hold the plugs and keep them from falling out while providing drainage.
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:07 PM   #20
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I don't like the flap on that Shimano bag. Lose that and they have a winner.

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You might be right about the nj tubes. I thought they were much shorter than the skinz tuves but they might only be a quarter inch shorter. I have a couple tubes I home that I can compare.
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:10 PM   #21
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Joe Lyons has some new bags, hav'nt seen them in person but rumours are that they are nice.
You can take the vac tubing and glue it together with PVC cement Then glue a piece of plexi to the bottom and burn some holes in it.
There are also the polycarbonate tubes that the BW bags have in them available somewheres on the net, I did some research once when I was going to make my own bag and then said fugedaboudit and got a skinz.
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:19 PM   #22
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Joe Lyons has some new bags, hav'nt seen them in person but rumours are that they are nice.
Those bags are great for the money but once again the closure is an issue. Needs more velcro IMO.
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:30 PM   #23
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The new Precision Paks are nice. The SWE has had them for a while, but I don't know anyone who has put a season or even half a season on them yet.

They're untested, as far as I know, at this point.
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:46 PM   #24
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Those bags are great for the money but once again the closure is an issue. Needs more velcro IMO.

The closure is not an issue. That was addressed before he started carrying them. They have just as much if not more velcro as Aquaskinz and VS. They don't get any more secure than that.
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:58 PM   #25
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The closure is not an issue. That was addressed before he started carrying them. They have just as much if not more velcro as Aquaskinz and VS. They don't get any more secure than that.

If you're talking about this bag I disagree. There is much mess velcro on these bags from what I've seen. I had one in my hands last weekend.


http://surfcasting-rhodeisland.com/m...tegory_Code=LB

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Old 01-16-2007, 06:21 PM   #26
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The bag in the link looks like the single row..
I have seen 3 different sizes of the precison pks bags..Very nice.If I didn't have a Large AS bag a single row VS bag Several canyon bags a Plano bag a VS Coastal bag i would get one..
The big bag comes with 2 plano type boxes,smaller ones that fit in front of the tubes..
Seemed like a real nice bag..Plenty of velcro..Mesh pockest on the side I would probably cut off as mesh can be a pita with hooks..
There's lots of room in there if u take the plano boxes out..
Cost less then the tube replacemnts. for the VS bag..'
As u can tell I have a few bags I change the inserts from one to the next from time to time..
My AS bag is one of the first models.There was no room along side the insert for anything. I like to jam that area with plastics an stuff so I switched it out with a old canyon bag insert..
There is a mailing tube company that makes the tubes the same type tubes that are in the coastal bags..There nice heavy material..Drill a million very small holes in the botton of the tubes..Silicone em together with a wrap of clear plastic mailing tape to hold together while the glue dries..
Small holes don't get hook points in em lots of holes drain the water..
At home fishing sometimes I find it easier to have a nightime bag an a daytime bag..
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If you're talking about this bag I disagree. There is much mess velcro on these bags from what I've seen. I had one in my hands last weekend.


http://surfcasting-rhodeisland.com/m...tegory_Code=LB

Do you use them?
As posted this was addressed for the SRI bags. Don't know where you looked at them but Joe brought this up and told the owner that this needed to be improved for him to carry the bags and for serious surfcasters to consider them.

Yes I have one, got it late last year so I can't give a full review as of it but I will say it offers the best bang for the buck out there. Far better than Canyon or BW for about the same $.
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If you're talking about this bag I disagree. There is much mess velcro on these bags from what I've seen. I had one in my hands last weekend.


http://surfcasting-rhodeisland.com/m...tegory_Code=LB
BTW after you open the link if you click on "click here for additional image" you get a good view of the velcro closure.
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I was considering giving the new Van Staal double row bag a shot because it seems to have lighter tubes than the skinz bag. The tubes look less durable but I think that's too be expected with the decrease in weight.

Anyway, I called to inquire about the cost of replacing the tubes and it's $63 and change.

WTF. I've never complained about the price of my VS reels and won't but 63 bucks for some plastic inserts. C'mon.

Figured I give you guys a heads up before purchasing one.

Score another one for the Skinz single row. That's all I'll be using.
the bag that your girl carries cost you alot more than that
what does skinz want for an extra set of tubes?

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the bag that your girl carries cost you alot more than that
what does skinz want for an extra set of tubes?
you should see the new bag. not sure about aquaskinz tubes but hopefully not as much.
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